[Theory] What is "That Jutsu?"

[BigTDogg220]

The only mentions of that jutsu were by jiraiya and the toad. that jutsu is probably mastering/using kyuubi chakra. i say this because jiraiya tried to teach naruto to control the fox but naruto lost control after four tails came. After that he told him to not use that jutsu. plus remember the toad key saying " does naruto really need that jutsu." The toad was reluctant to store himself with naruto in 489 and 490. It could be ftg but does anyone really want naruto to learn it like his dad and come up with a million variations like he did with rasengan. i mean come on ftg lvl 1,2 ,3, 4 , 5 would be boring like rasengan is now. we are all speculating but its either kyuubi control or something we havnt seen yet in the manga.

I don't believe it's Kyuubi control because that's not a jutsu. It's almost assuredly something we haven't seen yet.

 

[Toby Uchiha]

I don't believe it's Kyuubi control because that's not a jutsu. It's almost assuredly something we haven't seen yet.

It is exactly "THAT JUTSU" . It's a sealing jutsu to seal and open the Ninetails' chakra to use and control it. That is THAT JUTSU , nothing the more and nothing the less, i wonder why people are allways talking about "that jutsu" although it's so obvious. Stop it already!

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[Vincent]

lol..., jiraya's mention(to naruto) was him basically telling him not to use the kyuubi's power

jiraya's metion to gamatora was the jutsu that is the key to naruto's seal

naruto's mention was his thrown form of fuuton rasen shuriken...

seriously dude, do you know nothing?

 

[Toby Uchiha]

lol..., jiraya's mention(to naruto) was him basically telling him not to use the kyuubi's power

jiraya's metion to gamatora was the jutsu that is the key to naruto's seal

naruto's mention was his thrown form of fuuton rasen shuriken...

seriously dude, do you know nothing?

And to whom are you talking to?
Once, Jiraya teached him to use and control the ninetail's chakra by a little. He opened his seal (that seal on his stomache) a little, so that Naruto can use his own surpressed and the kyuubis chakra. Because that seal was weakening by time, Naruto reached a point where he couldn't control the kyuubis' chakra anymore. So Jiraya tried to teach him how he can control and surpress this chakra. Well, Naruto failed to do that so, so Jiraya decided that it'll need some1 to guard Naruto, that he won't lose control and get into kyuubi mode. So that was the reason Yamato watched over Naruto. But Jiraya still believed that Naruto once could be able to control the whole Kyuubis chakra. He had FAITH in Naruto. So he devised the scroll with "That Jutsu", THE Jutsu to release and lock the Kyuubis chakra whole at once, to the toads. Jiraya knew that Naruto could learn this sealing jutsu when the time's ripe.

And, as we know, Naruto mastered the sage arts, so the toads decided to teach him THAT Jutsu. And THAT Jutsu is that So6P-Mode-Sealing Jutsu.
If you don't believe that than read the fu**ing manga again.
Don't you wonder yourself that no character in the manga talked about "that jutsu" anymore after he learned this jutsu??

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[BigTDogg220]

To: Toby Uchiha and Heretic Saint:
Gaining full control over the Kyuubi isn't a jutsu. It isn't finishing a jutsu. Using the key Minato left isn't a jutsu. I don't know why people keep listing random things as jutsu that aren't. "That Jutsu" is not the Odama Rasengan, the Wind Release Rasenshuriken, or the key to the Kyuubi.

It is something being developed that we haven't seen yet.

 

[Honord Sage]

What if that Jutsu was the full use of Naruto new seal not only against the Fox but all tail Beast? A way to control them, if it can control and dose the strongest of all tail beast the fox, it can control all the other tail beast.

 

[Toby Uchiha]

To: Toby Uchiha and Heretic Saint:
Gaining full control over the Kyuubi isn't a jutsu. It isn't finishing a jutsu. Using the key Minato left isn't a jutsu. I don't why people keep listing random things as jutsu that aren't. "That Jutsu" is not the Odama Rasengan, the Wind Release Rasenshuriken, or the key to the Kyuubi.

It is something being developed that we haven't seen yet.

Naruto can lock & release the Kyuubis chakra by the SEAL, the EIGHT TIGRAMS SEAL. So it's a SEALING JUTSU. This jutsu is written by a transfer seal on a scroll, which is the KEY!

Here they call it the 4'ths seal, meaning the Eight Tigrams Seal. By open/closing it, you perform "that jutsu". If you do/undo a seal you must have to be able to use a seal jutsu. It's just logical.

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Naruto with J-Man..

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And there we come to the seal...

Chapter title is "a new seal"...there Naruto's performing that seal.

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[naruto sennin]

wouldn't surprise me if that justsu was the new seal we se on naruto body in kyuubi mode. we should blame kishi on being so vague about it , i mean its nice that we can speculate about it and read the manga to maybe find out what it is but come on. its been about 200 chapters since "that jutsu" was first mentioned. its turned into the same things as what is itachi's gift. i know one thing though i don't want it to be ftg lvl 1-5 or some other jutsu the 4th used . At this point the only jutsu that is truly naruto's is kage bunshin. yea other people can use it but no one can at the level he does. odds are we want find out what "that jutsu" is for another 200 chapters and there will be another million threads about it made.

 

[-Hades-]

Tobi uchiha... dude you're just contradicting yourself with those links...

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The scroll toad even says "This's also your ticket to perfecting that jutsu".
The toad says that the scroll is the key with which naruto can control the seal... and ALSO the key to THAT JUTSU. If it meant controlling the kyubi the toad wouldn't have said it twice.... just think about it.

 

[Toby Uchiha]

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again, the lower left corner.

The toad says "This's also your ticket to perform "that" jutsu..."
That "That" was refering to the jutsu written on the scroll. The toad just describes it with "that".

For people who don't understand it, or better understand me, here is an example:
Imagine a crate of beer with some bottles in it. The beer is named "Schlappeseppel", a *special* brewed beer from bavaria, germany. I tell you that "That" beer is really tasty.

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So you ask me if you could drink a bottle of "THAT" beer. "That", in this case, is the Beer which is in the crate. It's so simple!!!!!

It's the same as with the jutsu, which was written with a transfer seal on the scroll. And as i said it's a seal jutsu, the KEY. Instead of calling it "The Key" again, the toad says jutsu this time. Is it clearly now? Dumb idiots.

I'll tell you that you can discuss it 100000000x times, and you'll never find out what "THAT JUTSU" is/meant in the whole naruto saga if you continue believing that "THAT JUTSU" is a omglolzroflmaofuipwnyou- Jutsu.

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[lord niijima]

with all this tantrum going on, i just have one question to ask, is sage mode a jutsu. if yes, then that jutsu could mean controlling the fox.

 

[Honord Sage]

with all this tantrum going on, i just have one question to ask, is sage mode a jutsu. if yes, then that jutsu could mean controlling the fox.

Sage Mode is an art, not a jutsu, it can only be learn by a very few people. And you need to have certain attributes like large chakra and plenty of guts to never give up and thats only to qualify for training.

 

[-Hades-]

I have to agree it's a pointless discussion because you'll have your point of view and i'll have mine, we all have our own way of seeing things.
I do agree with what you said about how the toad might use "that" not to repeat itself with the seal control part however he could have also used it to refer to the scroll being the key to perfecting another jutsu. So unless you are Kishi we can't know for sure what he referred to when he said "that jutsu".
Also if it was as lame as controlling the kyubi, or a new seal they wouldn't have said "That" jutsu... it's just lame.
And while the toad and even jyraia make reference to controlling the kyubi's power and to have control over the seal they both also mention That justu. Why in hell would they mentinon the same thing twice? And also having control over the kyubi and being able to use it's power isn't a bad thing, it is in fact a very good thing as now naruto can't go on a rampage anymore and hurt other innocent people, so i ask you this if it was a sealing jutsu in order to controll the fox why would the scroll ask jyraia if naruto even needts that jutsu? And anyway have you ever seen naruto looking at the jutsu on the scroll? like you know study it? Naruto already made a new seal but we haven't seen him reading the scroll or even practicing a little.

 

[Toby Uchiha]

a) I do agree with what you said about how the toad might use "that" not to repeat itself with the seal control part however he could have also used it to refer to the scroll being the key to perfecting another jutsu. So unless you are Kishi we can't know for sure what he referred to when he said "that jutsu".

b) Also if it was as lame as controlling the kyubi, or a new seal they wouldn't have said "That" jutsu... it's just lame.

c) And while the toad and even jyraia make reference to controlling the kyubi's power and to have control over the seal they both also mention That justu. Why in hell would they mentinon the same thing twice?

d) And also having control over the kyubi and being able to use it's power isn't a bad thing, it is in fact a very good thing as now naruto can't go on a rampage anymore and hurt other innocent people, so i ask you this if it was a sealing jutsu in order to controll the fox why would the scroll ask jyraia if naruto even needts that jutsu?


e) And anyway have you ever seen naruto looking at the jutsu on the scroll? like you know study it? Naruto already made a new seal but we haven't seen him reading the scroll or even practicing a little.

to a) You're right, the scroll with "that" jutsu on it is the key to learn performing "that" jutsu after signing the contract. And in turn, that sealing jutsu is the key to get access to the whole kyuubis' chakra which was locked up before.

to b) Why it should be "lame"? We've seen what Naruto can do after he learned "that" sealing jutsu. He's going in a "So6P-Mode", can feel hatred, has more power, strength, stamina and speed. He can use the chakra to grab, move and throw things. Kishi clearly showed us what Naruto gained after learning "that" jutsu. Isn't that enough or w00t?

to c) They could both mean the same, it's nothing unusual and nothing strange that they both say "that" jutsu. They could, and i guess that they do, both mean the same. Or maybe it's a coincidence.Many things are possible, but it's not illogical.

to d) Sorry, but i don't understand the last sentence..the scroll ask jyraia? Eh? Please explain it to me..

to e) Yes, we've seen Naruto looking at the jutsu on the scroll. He had to sign the scroll to learn "that" sealing jutsu. And i can't imagine that the toad's not refering to the jutsu on the scroll. Naruto asked "What's that", so the toad explained and than said that Naruto needs to sign the scroll to learn "that jutsu". So i'm 100% sure that "that" was refered to the jutsu on the scroll.

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And think about: On the link above we can see the Eight-Tigrams-Seal. It's the same that Naruto has on his stomache. Why should be there a drawn Eight-Tigram-Seal on the scroll if it's only a "key", an "object" and not a sealing jutsu itself?

 

[-Hades-]

Well i was referring to the scroll toad... sorry.
The way you put it i have to agree that it's starting to make some sense...
When i said that he didn't look over the jutsu it's not that he didn't see it it's just that he didn't seem to bother to read what was written there... he just "signed" the contract and the toad went down his throat.
I think that most of us expected that jutsu to be something spectacular and extreme... and i still hope so... but if it really turns out to be only the seal i sill wouldn't be disappointed because SO6P naruto is cool xd
I guess that will just have to wait and see

 

[BigTDogg220]

I have to agree it's a pointless discussion because you'll have your point of view and i'll have mine, we all have our own way of seeing things.
I do agree with what you said about how the toad might use "that" not to repeat itself with the seal control part however he could have also used it to refer to the scroll being the key to perfecting another jutsu. So unless you are Kishi we can't know for sure what he referred to when he said "that jutsu".

Thank you for using some logic as a few of us (myself definitely included) were throwing a tantrum like lord niijima said. Bottomline, none of us know and we're all just speculating. Toby Uchiha, I have to admit your last theory could possibly be it, but again none of us know.

I apologize to everyone I stepped on trying to force my theory to be the only correct one. Hope to know for a fact soon what "that jutsu" actually was referring to.

 

[NamkazeNaruto]

A new idea got caught up in my mind. Maybe it the that menacing ball thath the fox uses ? I mean i doubt it will take a lot to learn FTG or take it toa new level. The menacng ball is the only thing that ti think can penetrate the Susanoo..... and it will be very reasonable for kishi to add it in order to make the Susanoo less invincible. If this does not work than i think that Rasen-shuriken can cut trough susanoo... or in other way Naruto will just have to wait till Sasuke runs out of stammina and chakra. Susano was broken through with a simple vaccum bomb that Danzo used.
Neverthelsess .... the mencaing ball was the thing that allmost got Jiraya's stomach cut through.

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Here jiraya was definately talkning about smt else, the way we see it is - we base all our assumtions on the single phraze. The last two links that were given by BigTogg are the only ones talking about 'That Jutsu' which i think is the menacing ball of the 9tf. As i said THIS IS A NEW IDEA THAT CAME UP TO MY MIND,

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allso once again in the link above , the toad asked Jiraya if Naruto needs that tech. I guess the Menacing ball would fit into the woring description. it's horryfing powers can wipe out a whole village. Post comments Quote Discuss

 

[Toby Uchiha]

A new idea got caught up in my mind. Maybe it the that menacing ball thath the fox uses ? I mean i doubt it will take a lot to learn FTG or take it toa new level. The menacng ball is the only thing that ti think can penetrate the Susanoo..... and it will be very reasonable for kishi to add it in order to make the Susanoo less invincible. If this does not work than i think that Rasen-shuriken can cut trough susanoo... or in other way Naruto will just have to wait till Sasuke runs out of stammina and chakra. Susano was broken through with a simple vaccum bomb that Danzo used.
Neverthelsess .... the mencaing ball was the thing that allmost got Jiraya's stomach cut through.

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Here jiraya was definately talkning about smt else, the way we see it is - we base all our assumtions on the single phraze. The last two links that were given by BigTogg are the only ones talking about 'That Jutsu' which i think is the menacing ball of the 9tf. As i said THIS IS A NEW IDEA THAT CAME UP TO MY MIND,

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allso once again in the link above , the toad asked Jiraya if Naruto needs that tech. I guess the Menacing ball would fit into the woring description. it's horryfing powers can wipe out a whole village. Post comments Quote Discuss

FELLAS, I GOT THE RESOLUTION OF THAT "THAT JUTSU- QUESTION".

First:
Thanks for the links, they are backing up my resolution. As most of you are confused by the talking of J-Man and Gamatora (the toad), i'll explain it to you. To your idea: I think that the "Menacing Ball" could just be a possible result in succession of learning "that" sealing jutsu.

Back to my point.
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again.

Jiraya was referring to Naruto's Rasenshuriken when he said "That Jutsu". As we know all the backgrounds, Naruto learned RS before, beat Kakuzu with that and after that battle Tsunade found out that the RS-Jutsu is destroying his body. As we also know that J-Man talked with Tsunade about that, he just told Naruto not to use "That *RASEN SHURIKEN* Jutsu".

And now look here, THE PROOF!

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Gamatora, the toad, remembered Jiraya what happened before when he was opening Naruto's seal by a little. This seal is declared as "the 4t's jutsu", the
Shishou Fuuin, the 4-Element-Seal. Remember about the "Ying-Yang" talking in the last chapters? Minato only sealed the YING, the good part of kyuubis' chakra, with a double Shishou Fuuin in Naruto - he sealed the chakra twice because to heighten the effect of the seal, but he also let some cracks left that the chakra can flow so that Naruto could use some of the kyuubis' chakra. The double-Shishou Fuuin is called the Hakke no Fuuin Shiki, the Eight-Tigrams-Seal (Logical: 4x2 = 8, so the name Eight Tigrams).

The YANG chakra, the bad part of kyuubi's chakra, was also sealed with on a SCROLL. As we know we need both Parts, the YING and the YANG, to complete something, in this case gaining control over the WHOLE chakra of the kyuubi's.

SO LEARNING "THAT JUTSU" IS REALLY THE HAKKE NO FUUIN SHIKI. SO NARUTO NEEDS TO LEARN "THAT JUTSU", THE HAKKE NO FUUIN SHIKI, TO GET CONTROL OF THAT YINGYANG-SHIT, THE KYUUBIS CHAKRA.


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-> It can be seen here CLEARLY (posting that link the 3rd time).

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Well ok, it's not as that clear as it has been shown, but look at the seal on that scroll, count the Triangles (=7) and than count the Circle (=1), so we have 8. So it's named "Eight Tigrams". On the picture above, you can also count the things arround the circle, it counts 8 in the end. I already told you that this seal, the Eight Tigrams, is on Naruto!

Oh and by the way, the Hakke no Fuuin Shiki was developed by the Uzumaki..and guess what..Kushina was Uzumaki, Naruto is an Uzumaki...

Hmmm...is it clear now?
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[NamkazeNaruto]

FELLAS, I GOT THE RESOLUTION OF THAT "THAT JUTSU- QUESTION".

First:
Thanks for the links, they are backing up my resolution. As most of you are confused by the talking of J-Man and Gamatora (the toad), i'll explain it to you. To your idea: I think that the "Menacing Ball" could just be a possible result in succession of learning "that" sealing jutsu.

Back to my point.
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again.

Jiraya was referring to Naruto's Rasenshuriken when he said "That Jutsu". As we know all the backgrounds, Naruto learned RS before, beat Kakuzu with that and after that battle Tsunade found out that the RS-Jutsu is destroying his body. As we also know that J-Man talked with Tsunade about that, he just told Naruto not to use "That *RASEN SHURIKEN* Jutsu".

And now look here, THE PROOF!

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Gamatora, the toad, remembered Jiraya what happened before when he was opening Naruto's seal by a little. This seal is declared as "the 4t's jutsu", the
Shishou Fuuin, the 4-Element-Seal. Remember about the "Ying-Yang" talking in the last chapters? Minato only sealed the YING, the good part of kyuubis' chakra, with a double Shishou Fuuin in Naruto - he sealed the chakra twice because to heighten the effect of the seal, but he also let some cracks left that the chakra can flow so that Naruto could use some of the kyuubis' chakra. The double-Shishou Fuuin is called the Hakke no Fuuin Shiki, the Eight-Tigrams-Seal (Logical: 4x2 = 8, so the name Eight Tigrams).

The YANG chakra, the bad part of kyuubi's chakra, was also sealed with on a SCROLL. As we know we need both Parts, the YING and the YANG, to complete something, in this case gaining control over the WHOLE chakra of the kyuubi's.

SO LEARNING "THAT JUTSU" IS REALLY THE HAKKE NO FUUIN SHIKI. SO NARUTO NEEDS TO LEARN "THAT JUTSU", THE HAKKE NO FUUIN SHIKI, TO GET CONTROL OF THAT YINGYANG-SHIT, THE KYUUBIS CHAKRA.


Picture of the Hakke no Fuuinshiki !

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-> It can be seen here CLEARLY (posting that link the 3rd time).

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Well ok, it's not as that clear as it has been shown, but look at the seal on that scroll, count the Triangles (=7) and than count the Circle (=1), so we have 8. So it's named "Eight Tigrams". On the picture above, you can also count the circle and than the things arround it, it counts 8 in the end. I already told you that this seal, the Eight Tigrams, is on Naruto!

Oh and by the way, the Hakke no Fuuin Shiki was developed by the Uzumaki..and guess what..Kushina was Uzumaki, Naruto is an Uzumaki...

Hmmm...is it clear now?
Reps to me or die.

Yeah i was kinda telling the same thing... but i though about the results that this mastery can bring. That jutsu is the eight tigrams seal or whatever. But I was thinking that i can explain everything this way so that everybody nderstand. The rasen shuriken........

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<---- this is definately not talking about the rasen-shuriken. It was the Fox relesed..... and my assumption would be that the Fox ws waiting for the time ot escape.:devil: as allways. s it eascaped and then used the weak version of the menacing ball.... that explains it. and yeah the first picture. i told everybody in my last quote that this pic does not have any relationship with the fox's powers or anything. But still the fact itself , the menacing ball ---- probably one of the strongest techniquest in the Naruto universe, being used .... is awesome. This training will help Naruto gain controll over the Menacing Ball and other properties and powers relating or belonging to the fox.That should be agreeable.
Peace Out and stfu

 

[BigTDogg220]

Yeah i was kinda telling the same thing... but i though about the results that this mastery can bring. That jutsu is the eight tigrams seal or whatever. But I was thinking that i can explain everything this way so that everybody nderstand. The rasen shuriken........

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<---- this is definately not talking about the rasen-shuriken. It was the Fox relesed..... and my assumption would be that the Fox ws waiting for the time ot escape.:devil: as allways. s it eascaped and then used the weak version of the menacing ball.... that explains it. and yeah the first picture. i told everybody in my last quote that this pic does not have any relationship with the fox's powers or anything. But still the fact itself , the menacing ball ---- probably one of the strongest techniquest in the Naruto universe, being used .... is awesome. This training will help Naruto gain controll over the Menacing Ball and other properties and powers relating or belonging to the fox.That should be agreeable.
Peace Out and stfu

Interesting idea on the menacing ball, I never really considered that before. That certainly does seem like a power that Gamatora would be worried about Naruto using.