What is Hinata's role in the war? ...Instead of a mere moral support?

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Funny when people don't want their delusions to be contradicted they start throwing this and that out of canon.

Kishi doesn't write personally the manga episodes but still has the copyright. The writers of the anime cannot make Naruto an admirer of Hitler or Kiba a cannibal because they have to work under the boundaries of the character and is Kishi the one who dictates the boundaries a character has. It kinda works like the Stan Lee comics, there are plenty authors at work but that doesn't mean that there are dozens of variants of the same character, there is only one character who did all the things he/she is entitled for. That, unless Stan Lee itself declares something out of canon or announces that they'll restart a whole continuity.

If Kishi didn't want Hinata to be able to cast the 8 Trigrams Barrier, or Sakura to use the Cherry Blizzard Paperbombs, or Shino to use the wired shurikens, he'd just have said so, that is the reason you never saw a filler episode where Lee uses any form of ninjutsu however small it may be.

I feel that such skills SHOULD be taken into account when evaluating the feats a character has.

Anyway, in this particular case, I'll let you people have it your way. If you take away the anime from the picture it's even clearer that Sakura has more feats, power and general usefulness than Hinata. Hinata mostly excels at scouting like the rest of his team, Sakura is more versatile and generally speaking more strong.

I already find the Sakura vs Hinata trend quite ridicolous because they're both good (not exceptional, but good) characters and assuming that one is more likeable if you bash the other diminishes them both. But, everyone is free to like or dislike characters as he/she pleases.

When it boils down to power, however, personal preferences step aside and facts take in. And facts are that Hinata had less feats, less achievements, less experience in battle, less power, and less statistics than Sakura.
 
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Saying hinata dodge it is a BIG word she only survived his pokes, gentle fist .And again gentle fist does not kill its block chakra neji already blocked her chakra . She will survive with out her chakra But When neji actually wanted to kill her . He got stopped by kakashi gai and kurnai

Gentle fist Does and can kill.

It can attack vital organs without the need to even break the skin, One single tap if aimed at the heart could kill, Even cripple an enemy by attacking muscles/lungs or other organs directly

a Gentle fist attack, even if its a slight Tap or a graze is just as dangerous as a punch from sakura
 

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Funny when people don't want their delusions to be contradicted they start throwing this and that out of canon.

Kishi doesn't write personally the manga episodes but still has the copyright. The writers of the anime cannot make Naruto an admirer of Hitler or Kiba a cannibal because they have to work under the boundaries of the character and is Kishi the one who dictates the boundaries a character has. It kinda works like the Stan Lee comics, there are plenty authors at work but that doesn't mean that there are dozens of variants of the same character, there is only one character who did all the things he/she is entitled for. That, unless Stan Lee itself declares something out of canon or announces that they'll restart a whole continuity.

If Kishi didn't want Hinata to be able to cast the 8 Trigrams Barrier, or Sakura to use the Cherry Blizzard Paperbombs, or Shino to use the wired shurikens, he'd just have said so, that is the reason you never saw a filler episode where Lee uses any form of ninjutsu however small it may be.

I feel that such skills SHOULD be taken into account when evaluating the feats a character has.

Anyway, in this particular case, I'll let you people have it your way. If you take away the anime from the picture it's even clearer that Sakura has more feats, power and general usefulness than Hinata. Hinata mostly excels at scouting like the rest of his team, Sakura is more versatile and generally speaking more strong.

I already find the Sakura vs Hinata trend quite ridicolous because they're both good (not exceptional, but good) characters and assuming that one is more likeable if you bash the other diminishes them both. But, everyone is free to like or dislike characters as he/she pleases.

When it boils down to power, however, personal preferences step aside and facts take in. And facts are that Hinata had less feats, less achievements, less experience in battle, less power, and less statistics than Sakura.

I disagree. If a character gets an anime power up I consider it non-cannon because the people that read the manga which is directly from Kishi, won't know about it.
 

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what other role can she possibly have?
 

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I disagree. If a character gets an anime power up I consider it non-cannon because the people that read the manga which is directly from Kishi, won't know about it.

Well, that is certainly a respectable point of view but I still think there is a bit difference between Shukaku Hard Spear shown in the anime and a random sand jutsu I invent for Gaara while writing a fanfiction. It appears clear to me that one is more "legitimate" than the other. I could be misguided but that's how I see it.

Still, it is of little relevance in this specific case. Taking the anime away it is even clearer that Sakura is superior. Hinata played as much of a big role in the war as she could.
 

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The moral support is what gives Naruto the drive to continue on and be a strong beacon for the shinobi alliance.
 

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Let something happen to her and you will see a whole new Naruto.. It might just happen again where Madara or the Juubi hurts her and Naruto goes off.
 

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Combat (She actually saved neji from a minor miscalculation in this panel)

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Notice that Hinata too is working from Day to Night, even long after Neji has burned out his eyes.

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Ah yeah, forgot that she showed some medical skill in the manga too. I guess that makes it "definitely canon", then.

Incidentally, I was wondering in how many ways the medical use of Gentle Fist is different from classical medical ninjutsu. Cool that Hinata is taking that route, though, it seems like Toki in Fist of the North Star (Gentle Fist is a lot like Hokuto Shinken, too).
 

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Ah yeah, forgot that she showed some medical skill in the manga too. I guess that makes it "definitely canon", then.

Incidentally, I was wondering in how many ways the medical use of Gentle Fist is different from classical medical ninjutsu. Cool that Hinata is taking that route, though, it seems like Toki in Fist of the North Star (Gentle Fist is a lot like Hokuto Shinken, too).

Hinata never used medical ninjutsu in the manga. Someone even called for a medic whenever Hinata was right beside him.

All she did was click his bone back into place.
 

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hinata got neji killed, she should have died and let neji go HAM
 

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Hinata never used medical ninjutsu in the manga. Someone even called for a medic whenever Hinata was right beside him.

All she did was click his bone back into place.

Well, that's sort of the point I was trying to get across, partly.

Hinata fixed a bone disjuncture with Gentle Fist, it sounds like some form of medical aid to me. It is rather evident that Gentle Fist could be used in many similar cases, it allows to move organs and bones with ease; it is just as obvious that it couldn't in others, like regenerating flesh (Mystic Palm Jutsu) or purging poison (Illness Extraction Jutsu), replenish energy (Mystic Palm again), surgery (Chakra Scalpel Jutsu) and so on.

It could be interesting if Kishi develops further this concept of Gentle Fist as a niche/unorthodox form of medical art.
 

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If Sakura is healing Naruto and replenishing his energy,
shikamaru is the smart strategist,
and Ino connects them all via telepathy,

then what can hinata do?

They say hinata is stronger than sakura or ino but all I can see on her is being a moral support who always needs to be protected.

In shipuuden, I haven't seen her in a serious fight or beating class-S ninjas like akatsuki. No valid feats. Is she really strong? I used to like her.

Hinata's role is this:

Further... the series isn't exactly titled: "Hinata" - so we don't really get a good look into her accomplishments unless she's near Naruto... and who in the K11 stand much of a chance against the type of shit Naruto tends to fight against? Even Sasuke would have withered before Pain/Nagato (especially considering he didn't have EMS).

The "Gentle Fist" style, itself, is designed after the principles of Taoism - that you can accomplish great things with almost zero effort. The style tends to reject the notion of using raw power. In theory - so long as a Hyuuga can physically keep up with their target - they never diminish as a threat. Whether you're a genin just out of school or an S-ranked jinchuriki of the Juubi - a Hyuuga can **** you up equally with the same style. The only thing that changes is the threat level facing the Hyuuga.

Wouldn't it be ironic if Hinata (or the Hyuuga in general) is the only one able to affect the fully transformed Juubi?
 

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First point: These images show both of them doing basically the same thing... which means they where both attacking. Yes there are a few points that outline Hinata's attack but that doesn't come close to meaning Neji wasn't attacking. In fact this proves that she was able to keep up with him for the most part. Also, this was little Hinata who didn't have twin lion fist, a graze like that from older Hinata would be fatal. Plus the point of contact was very very small, if it would had been any closer... Neji wouldn't had been as mobile.

Second point: Lee was directly referring to Naruto's comment about Hinata's attack, so I don't know how the hell you came to that assumption.

Third point: Yes of course Neji hit Hinata, eventually he was bound to win. Kakashi even stated that Neji was enough to beat Sasuke..... he could had done that to someone like Sakura with basically zero resistance by comparison.

When Neji fought Naruto, Naruto didn't even come close to doing as good as Hinata via the hand to hand combat. Hinata at least grazed him. Naruto had plot no jutsu and the fox help him win.

Also Hinata was keeping up with Neji after she had been seriously wounded




She didnt keep up with neji he owned her

She didnt dodge his attack only survived for a while .sasuke would do better than her he would survive more and able to do damge on neji ..


Unlike hinata her gentle fist didnt do much damge on neji lee was talking about gentle fist however hinata gentle fist is not that good .


Another thing hinata got hit by neji and sakura is faster than part1 neji if sakura laned a hit hinata wont be able to survive

Sakura is faster stronger smarter than hinata sakura wins nuff said
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Notice that Hinata too is working from Day to Night, even long after Neji has burned out his eyes.

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She did her role fine .

She is not useless at all .plus she is not the heroine so she doesnt need to do more .
 

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With Neji death Hinata has assume Neji's role as the Clans Battle leader,railing the Hyuga Clan into action and will Change Her Father view of Her.
 

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She fought some Zetsu clones and I believe one or two Edo Shinobi. Oh! And got Neji killed :|
 

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She fought some Zetsu clones and I believe one or two Edo Shinobi. Oh! And got Neji killed :|
Neji also believe in Naruto who showed Him destiny is not set you can chose your destiny Neji own words to Naruto Hinata is willing to die for you.
 

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The databook are canon like the manga its confirmed that its by kishimoto

It's not fanmade Do you ever heard of something called copy rights ?

Sakura is nowhere near Akatsuki level either....


she got owned by neji 64 just because she survived one of his pokes doesn't mean she can survive sakura punch

Sakura punch >>>>>> neji poke

Please prove that the Databooks are Canon, don't just claim they are. Kishi isn't the only person with the rights to Naruto.... The Storm series, and the Anime are neither from Kishi! So don't claim something without facts!
 

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Please prove that the Databooks are Canon, don't just claim they are. Kishi isn't the only person with the rights to Naruto.... The Storm series, and the Anime are neither from Kishi! So don't claim something without facts!

Kishimoto wrote the databooks, that's why they're cannon.
 

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Shes killed a f*ck load of enemies in the war. Sakura never beat Sasori, she was being controlled by Chiyo and had the plot shield around her. Plus Sasori could've fodderised both of them, he died willingly in that fight because chiyo got through to him via TnJ.

Hinata also at least attempted to save Naruto from Pain btw. Sakura just stood there, being useless as always when Naruto was about to get defeated.

Sakura was nowhere near, nor could she see. Hinata killed fodder zetsu, i think 100+ puppets charging at one time with a bit more brain work going into their use is a big more difficult than zombies. She was controlled for a less than half of the fight.

Plot shield protects everyone, actually plot shield is the reason hinata isnt dead yet as well cuz if she does no more hyuga of the future since they ditched neji, tbf she shoulda been the one to go.

Many fights have been influenced by TnJ so whatever, that doesn't change the intensity of the previous fight leading up to when he died, so even if he killed them then technically he would not have been fodderizing because was pushed to some limits.
 
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