[Discussion] What if Luffy was sentenced to execution in Marineford?

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Why would he come ? Luffy has no ties to Whitebeard. Why would he sacrifice his precious 'family' for someone he doesn't even know.

He let Ace go alone after Blackbeard
He didn't let Ace go. Ace left without his permission.

Ace has major ties with Luffy. Ace was Newgates most precious "son". If Ace went after Luffy, WB would also follow him in order to make sure his son didn't get hurt.
 

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He didn't let Ace go. Ace left without his permission.

Ace has major ties with Luffy. Ace was Newgates most precious "son". If Ace went after Luffy, WB would also follow him in order to make sure his son didn't get hurt.
What is the difference ? In the end Ace left.

There is no evidence for Ace to be WB's favorite son. Also it makes no sense to go after him and 'save' his son as you say and sacrifice a lot of his other sons in the process.

Going to the war for Ace was entirely different, WB was giving a statement to the world, by going after Ace who is going after Luffy it would just be pointless.

1) Look world ! , I'm here to save my son and to show that no one can harm them and get away with it.

2) Look world ! , I can't control my son and I'm here to pick him up before he does something foolish, please excuse me because I don't have anything to do with this war.
 

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If Ace went after Luffy, WB would also follow him in order to make sure his son didn't get hurt.
he didnt seem to care when ace could have gotten murdered by teach.
The wHOLE wORLD WILL TRY TO SAVE HIM AND THEY WILL ESPECIALLY ACE CAUSE HE IS STILL STRONGER THAN LUFFy
actually only grand line pirates are within range and only NW pirates/hancock/rayleigh will get there in time.
ace didnt have a whole lot of time. luffy only barely made it.
This not to mention all the islands luffy liberated and the two warrior tribes he freed.
who? dory and broggy? if your talking about hancock, in this timeline he never went there. he got captured by teach on barano island.

Garp betrays the WG
he had already made his choice to support it over ace, moron. garp loves ace no less than luffy.

Shanks,WB,Dragon
dragon's too weak or else he would ahve invaded already, luffy or no luffy.
shanks wont come. he of all people should realise that luffy is on his own path, and shanks loves his crew. luffy, he barely knew as an acquaintance.
everyone who went to save ace, knew and loved him as a brother and son. excpt obviously the impel down jailbreak men who merely followed luffy to be out of that hellhole.
plus if WB never comes, then no one is going to intercept kaidou from flanking shanks. shanks will be massacred.

Shanks is likely to come, because he also came this time
to stop a war, not start one.
and with him heading to MF, kaido will flank him instead of whitebeard.
Face it, the great Monkey D. Dragon doesn't give a shit
nah hes just too weak to do anything
 

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two scenarios:
1.no one will come except SH's and entire crew will be killed by PX
2.All his former rivals will help SH's to free him.I think ace & WB,dragon,sabo & revs,shanks,rayleigh will definitely come for luffy.
because he is the hero of the story plot will save him with no logic at all.
 
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What is the difference ? In the end Ace left.

There is no evidence for Ace to be WB's favorite son. Also it makes no sense to go after him and 'save' his son as you say and sacrifice a lot of his other sons in the process.

Going to the war for Ace was entirely different, WB was giving a statement to the world, by going after Ace who is going after Luffy it would just be pointless.

1) Look world ! , I'm here to save my son and to show that no one can harm them and get away with it.

2) Look world ! , I can't control my son and I'm here to pick him up before he does something foolish, please excuse me because I don't have anything to do with this war.

The difference is you said "WB let him go" which is wrong.

He obviously was his favorite son, why else would he have wanted him to become the Pirate King? "Precious" might be the better word. Most of his sons would still be alive. With the combined forces of Shanks, Dragon, and WB the casualties should be minimum.

He'd also be able to get rid of the WG.
 

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The difference is you said "WB let him go" which is wrong.

He obviously was his favorite son, why else would he have wanted him to become the Pirate King? "Precious" might be the better word. Most of his sons would still be alive. With the combined forces of Shanks, Dragon, and WB the casualties should be minimum.

He'd also be able to get rid of the WG.

Like WB would run after his stubborn kid because he really really wants too, and ignore all his other responsibilities as a yonkou.

Besides do you think that Dragon, WB and Shanks all have each other on speed dial to compose their plan in the minimal time they have?

And like I said before, Luffy wouldn't get a public execution in the first place.
 

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I don't think the Revs would have came out.

Dragon didn't come out for Ace, so I don't think he would for Luffy. He must definitely know they were related since he had Sabo with them, and Sabo had to at least ask if he can go, but Dragon said no (or at least I'm guessing, that's the only way I can see Dragon not doing anything). Dragon doesn't seem like the type to deny saving his sons brother just because he's not his biological son...

Shanks, I'm not sure if he'd have come. But he probably would have. I say maybe not because why didn't he show up for Ace?MY best guess is simply because they couldn't get their in time.

So I'm just theorizing everything, but that's how I see it... I don't think Ace would've gotten the same support Luffy had. Ivankov probably would've come if he heard he was saving Luffy, Dragons son, but he probably would've killed Buggy or left him behind because he didn't know him... same with Mr. 3. Not sure if he'd have bought Crocodile, and Crocodile was definitely a big asset to Luffys army.
So that's what I think.
Dragon isn't ace father
 
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Like WB would run after his stubborn kid because he really really wants too, and ignore all his other responsibilities as a yonkou.

Besides do you think that Dragon, WB and Shanks all have each other on speed dial to compose their plan in the minimal time they have?

And like I said before, Luffy wouldn't get a public execution in the first place.
What responsibilities? Whitebeard would be smart enough to leave behind most if not all of his allies. He'd really only need his main crew. They'd follow Whitebeard anywhere. Worst case scenario; Ace dying, Whitebeard understands the level of difficulty it would take to rescue Luffy (Admirals), he'd realize that if Ace went alone he'd die.

What plan? Like everyone else Whitebeard would see the news in the Newspaper and head there. They could create a plan once they arrive at Marineford.
 

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What responsibilities? Whitebeard would be smart enough to leave behind most if not all of his allies. He'd really only need his main crew. They'd follow Whitebeard anywhere. Worst case scenario; Ace dying, Whitebeard understands the level of difficulty it would take to rescue Luffy (Admirals), he'd realize that if Ace went alone he'd die.

What plan? Like everyone else Whitebeard would see the news in the Newspaper and head there. They could create a plan once they arrive at Marineford.
If Whitebeard as a yonkou shows up and realizes he is in a fight he cant win, he is already screwed at that point. Admirals won't let him sail back to safety anymore.

Oh yeah, reading newspapers and making up plans on the spot to prevent a well thought out and prepared execution. That would work just fine...

But there won't be any newspaper. Luffy will be executed somewhere in Impel Down without the rest of the world knowing it, or at least too late.
 
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If Whitebeard as a yonkou shows up and realizes he is in a fight he cant win, he is already screwed at that point. Admirals won't let him sail back to safety anymore.

Oh yeah, reading newspapers and making up plans on the spot to prevent a well thought out and prepared execution. That would work just fine...

But there won't be any newspaper. Luffy will be executed somewhere in Impel Down without the rest of the world knowing it, or at least too late.
How does he lose? He's got 4 top tiers in his crew including himself. Not only that, but he'll have the combined forces of Shanks and Dragons crew. Admirals would get destroyed.

...."well thought out"? Marineford wasn't that well thought out. Whitebeard himself was able to rescue Ace. Imagine what would happen now that he has a bunch of Top tiers with him. Whitebeard made up a plan on the spot in Marineford. Sengoku stated that he was a great "tactician" or "strategist".

Moot point. The OP states that "everything occurs the same way it did with Ace". It's going to be a public execution.
 
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