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Much Stronger than Sasuke's ordinary Perfect Susano'o but much weaker than the Bijuu Perfect Susano'o.
Stronger than Sasuke and Naruto before VOTE2
His PS would be stronger than Sasuke PS
But I still think Rikudou BSM Naruto can match him.
Indeed. I don't understand some people in this thread....Madara has 3 eyes and all bijuu inside himself.
If he could use Limbo Susanoo (or even one Susanoo) it would be much stronger than Sasuke. And certainly, can do.
but, NERFED![]()
Indeed. I don't understand some people in this thread....
JJ Madara PS: Rikudo Chakra from the Rinnegan + Rikudo Chakra from Juubi/Shinjuu(full acess as a Jin, not just pieces) + Natural Energy Chakra/Six Paths Senjutsu chakra.
Rinnegan Sasuke PS with some bijuu chakra: Half Rikudo Chakra + Some chakra from the bijuus.
It's very clear which is Superior. 1 JJ PS and 4 Limbo Ones would be pretty OP!
The rinnegan itself does not give rikkudo chakra. There's no evidence to support this claim at all, and even at that event, rikkudo Naruto's RSM gives him reflexes equivalent, or superior to to Madara's. Since rikkdo chakra is still senjutsu, you're saying that Madara needs the rikkudo senjutsu from the juubi+the supposed rikkudo chakra from the rinnegan just to, at best, equal rikkudo sage mode.
Sasuke most likely received rikkudo chakra with his rinnegan, not because of the rinnegan. The fact that Nagato had both rinnegans, but had no rikkudo chakra greatly supports this. Even if Sasuke got his chakra from the rinnegan, this does not support that Madara does as well in the slightest, as Sasuke's rinnegan is a stage above the normal as his "eye powers return" from going from an ordinary rinnegan to his.
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All evidence points away from Madara getting additional rikkudo chakra from the rinnegan. Madara simply has rikkudo senjutsu more or less equal to Naruto's from the juubi to fuel the rinnegan. That's it.
This can't be compared to biju susanoo, in which Sasuke takes his rikkudo-enhanced susanoo, and does the opposite of COAT with the biju chakra. What this means is that Sasuke essentially created a juubi within his rikkudo susanoo, to vastly enhance it.
As for limbo susanoo, assuming that they can use it, this is assuming that Madara has the chakra to support 5 susanoos, and this trick is easily done by anybody that also has clones ex. Naruto, Sasuke.
How powerful would he have been??
Indeed. I don't understand some people in this thread....
JJ Madara PS: Rikudo Chakra from the Rinnegan + Rikudo Chakra from Juubi/Shinjuu(full acess as a Jin, not just pieces) + Natural Energy Chakra/Six Paths Senjutsu chakra.
Rinnegan Sasuke PS with some bijuu chakra: Half Rikudo Chakra + Some chakra from the bijuus.
It's very clear which is Superior. 1 JJ PS and 4 Limbo Ones would be pretty OP!
I am just gonna post this because I am bored right NOW! Hagoromo's chakra=Rikudo chakra!The rinnegan itself does not give rikkudo chakra. There's no evidence to support this claim at all, and even at that event, rikkudo Naruto's RSM gives him reflexes equivalent, or superior to to Madara's. Since rikkdo chakra is still senjutsu, you're saying that Madara needs the rikkudo senjutsu from the juubi+the supposed rikkudo chakra from the rinnegan just to, at best, equal rikkudo sage mode.
Sasuke most likely received rikkudo chakra with his rinnegan, not because of the rinnegan. The fact that Nagato had both rinnegans, but had no rikkudo chakra greatly supports this. Even if Sasuke got his chakra from the rinnegan, this does not support that Madara does as well in the slightest, as Sasuke's rinnegan is a stage above the normal as his "eye powers return" from going from an ordinary rinnegan to his.
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All evidence points away from Madara getting additional rikkudo chakra from the rinnegan. Madara simply has rikkudo senjutsu more or less equal to Naruto's from the juubi to fuel the rinnegan. That's it.
This can't be compared to biju susanoo, in which Sasuke takes his rikkudo-enhanced susanoo, and does the opposite of COAT with the biju chakra. What this means is that Sasuke essentially created a juubi within his rikkudo susanoo, to vastly enhance it.
As for limbo susanoo, assuming that they can use it, this is assuming that Madara has the chakra to support 5 susanoos, and this trick is easily done by anybody that also has clones ex. Naruto, Sasuke.
So true and also If I remember correct Kakashi's PS came from Obito's Rikudo chakra which he stole from JJ Madara! That small fraction of JJ Madara's power made Obito's eyes more powerful and manifested the PS. Imagine how more powerful would Rinnegan JJ Madara PS since already having the Rinnegan gives you Rikudo Chakra + the Juubi with its Natural Energy & Massive Chakra... It would be too OP.We always talking on the basis of nothing because in the manga we could not see the Susanoo JJ Madara.
For all we know he could be even more powerful than Susanoo Sasuke and Kakashi Susanoo put together....They are just guesses.
Given the power of Madara, for me it would have been more powerfull than Sasuke's Susanoo.
Just see the normal Susanoo Sasuke rinnegan how was powerful thanks to the powers of Rikudou (He used even the jutsu lol), and do you think the Susanoo of JJ Madara would remain the same as Susanoo EMS? ahahahaha, okay.
I am just gonna post this because I am bored right NOW! Hagoromo's chakra=Rikudo chakra!
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Well Madara has a Rinne Sharingan + Double Rinnegan. Although that Sasuke's Rinnegan is different the 4th DB said and from what we see it's still a Rinnegan...U forgot sasuke has 1 sharinnegan
While Madara has 1 sharinnegan on the fore head and 2 rinnegans as eyes
TOO OP
3 op eyes vs a guy with 1 op eye
Look you misunderstand one thing... Rikudo Chakra and Rikudo Senjutsu are 2 different things. Sasuke for example has Rikudo Chakra and doesn't have Rikudo Senjutsu. Having the Rinnegan which gives the user Rikudo chakra doesn't mean that you have Rikudo Senjutsu.... Rikudo chakra is the chakra of the Sage that why he said Madara awakend my chakra and thus the Rinnegan. This what the manga says so its not fanfic...In which the only effect was getting the rinnegan. If the rikkudo chakra was linked to the rinnegan, Nagato would have had it, which he didn't. If it was linked to Madara's body, actually, no, I don't even have to argue about that part since he had to acquire senjutsu. If he had rikkudo chakra, he'd have senjutsu by default, which he didn't. Madara having rikkudo chakra without the juubi is fanfic.