What if JJ Madara used PS??

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Much Stronger than Sasuke's ordinary Perfect Susano'o but much weaker than the Bijuu Perfect Susano'o.
 

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Stronger than Sasuke and Naruto before VOTE2

His PS would be stronger than Sasuke PS

But I still think Rikudou BSM Naruto can match him.
 

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Stronger than Sasuke and Naruto before VOTE2

His PS would be stronger than Sasuke PS

But I still think Rikudou BSM Naruto can match him.

Yea i think so too

RS BSM= all 9 bijuus

Same to the JJ
 

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Madara has 3 eyes and all bijuu inside himself.

If he could use Limbo Susanoo (or even one Susanoo) it would be much stronger than Sasuke. And certainly, can do.

but, NERFED :)
 

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too op that only hashirama can deal with him... even Black zetsu did (hashirama) an fake behind stab in the chest to end madara.. but he still live.. until he lost ten tails..
 

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Well logically if Madara's PS steps on Itachi, it will instantly get sealed away. This tells us that Itachi can easily defeat JJ Madara's PS.
 

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Madara has 3 eyes and all bijuu inside himself.

If he could use Limbo Susanoo (or even one Susanoo) it would be much stronger than Sasuke. And certainly, can do.

but, NERFED :)
Indeed. I don't understand some people in this thread....
JJ Madara PS: Rikudo Chakra from the Rinnegan + Rikudo Chakra from Juubi/Shinjuu(full acess as a Jin, not just pieces) + Natural Energy Chakra/Six Paths Senjutsu chakra.
Rinnegan Sasuke PS with some bijuu chakra: Half Rikudo Chakra + Some chakra from the bijuus.

It's very clear which is Superior. 1 JJ PS and 4 Limbo Ones would be pretty OP!
 

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Indeed. I don't understand some people in this thread....
JJ Madara PS: Rikudo Chakra from the Rinnegan + Rikudo Chakra from Juubi/Shinjuu(full acess as a Jin, not just pieces) + Natural Energy Chakra/Six Paths Senjutsu chakra.
Rinnegan Sasuke PS with some bijuu chakra: Half Rikudo Chakra + Some chakra from the bijuus.

It's very clear which is Superior. 1 JJ PS and 4 Limbo Ones would be pretty OP!

The rinnegan itself does not give rikkudo chakra. There's no evidence to support this claim at all, and even at that event, rikkudo Naruto's RSM gives him reflexes equivalent, or superior to to Madara's. Since rikkdo chakra is still senjutsu, you're saying that Madara needs the rikkudo senjutsu from the juubi+the supposed rikkudo chakra from the rinnegan just to, at best, equal rikkudo sage mode.

Sasuke most likely received rikkudo chakra with his rinnegan, not because of the rinnegan. The fact that Nagato had both rinnegans, but had no rikkudo chakra greatly supports this. Even if Sasuke got his chakra from the rinnegan, this does not support that Madara does as well in the slightest, as Sasuke's rinnegan is a stage above the normal as his "eye powers return" from going from an ordinary rinnegan to his.

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All evidence points away from Madara getting additional rikkudo chakra from the rinnegan. Madara simply has rikkudo senjutsu more or less equal to Naruto's from the juubi to fuel the rinnegan. That's it.

This can't be compared to biju susanoo, in which Sasuke takes his rikkudo-enhanced susanoo, and does the opposite of COAT with the biju chakra. What this means is that Sasuke essentially created a juubi within his rikkudo susanoo, to vastly enhance it.

As for limbo susanoo, assuming that they can use it, this is assuming that Madara has the chakra to support 5 susanoos, and this trick is easily done by anybody that also has clones ex. Naruto, Sasuke.
 
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It would be the juubi covered in susano armour. Wielding swords...or something..
 

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The rinnegan itself does not give rikkudo chakra. There's no evidence to support this claim at all, and even at that event, rikkudo Naruto's RSM gives him reflexes equivalent, or superior to to Madara's. Since rikkdo chakra is still senjutsu, you're saying that Madara needs the rikkudo senjutsu from the juubi+the supposed rikkudo chakra from the rinnegan just to, at best, equal rikkudo sage mode.

Sasuke most likely received rikkudo chakra with his rinnegan, not because of the rinnegan. The fact that Nagato had both rinnegans, but had no rikkudo chakra greatly supports this. Even if Sasuke got his chakra from the rinnegan, this does not support that Madara does as well in the slightest, as Sasuke's rinnegan is a stage above the normal as his "eye powers return" from going from an ordinary rinnegan to his.

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All evidence points away from Madara getting additional rikkudo chakra from the rinnegan. Madara simply has rikkudo senjutsu more or less equal to Naruto's from the juubi to fuel the rinnegan. That's it.

This can't be compared to biju susanoo, in which Sasuke takes his rikkudo-enhanced susanoo, and does the opposite of COAT with the biju chakra. What this means is that Sasuke essentially created a juubi within his rikkudo susanoo, to vastly enhance it.

As for limbo susanoo, assuming that they can use it, this is assuming that Madara has the chakra to support 5 susanoos, and this trick is easily done by anybody that also has clones ex. Naruto, Sasuke.

This could be true because if Rinnegan gave Madara Six Path chakra to his body also, he should be able to produced RSM because he already have Hashirama's Senjutsu.

Hagoromo already has Rikudou Senjutsu even before becoming JJ. Its because his body has Six Path chakra he inherited from Kaguya not just Rinnegan. And by absorbing Nature energy he can obtained Six path Senjutsu.

But thats not happen to Madara. Thats mean only Madara Rinnegan contained Six Path chakra and his body never had it before he became JJ.
 
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We always talking on the basis of nothing because in the manga we could not see the Susanoo JJ Madara.

For all we know he could be even more powerful than Susanoo Sasuke and Kakashi Susanoo put together....They are just guesses.

Given the power of Madara, for me it would have been more powerfull than Sasuke's Susanoo.

Just see the normal Susanoo Sasuke rinnegan how was powerful thanks to the powers of Rikudou (He used even the jutsu lol), and do you think the Susanoo of JJ Madara would remain the same as Susanoo EMS? ahahahaha, okay.
 
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How powerful would he have been??

Look at how strong Sasuke PS got after he got some chakra from the Bijuus and picture Madara's with the JuubiMs chakra.

I think Madara can use Susanoo+Limbo to make Limbos of Susanoo since both Sasuke and Madara use other eye powers with their Susanoo. Madara used BT with his Susanoo to pull Meteors down as Edo Madara and Sasuke did the same when he pulled the CTs to himself.
 
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Indeed. I don't understand some people in this thread....
JJ Madara PS: Rikudo Chakra from the Rinnegan + Rikudo Chakra from Juubi/Shinjuu(full acess as a Jin, not just pieces) + Natural Energy Chakra/Six Paths Senjutsu chakra.
Rinnegan Sasuke PS with some bijuu chakra: Half Rikudo Chakra + Some chakra from the bijuus.

It's very clear which is Superior. 1 JJ PS and 4 Limbo Ones would be pretty OP!

U forgot sasuke has 1 sharinnegan

While Madara has 1 sharinnegan on the fore head and 2 rinnegans as eyes

TOO OP

3 op eyes vs a guy with 1 op eye
 
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The rinnegan itself does not give rikkudo chakra. There's no evidence to support this claim at all, and even at that event, rikkudo Naruto's RSM gives him reflexes equivalent, or superior to to Madara's. Since rikkdo chakra is still senjutsu, you're saying that Madara needs the rikkudo senjutsu from the juubi+the supposed rikkudo chakra from the rinnegan just to, at best, equal rikkudo sage mode.

Sasuke most likely received rikkudo chakra with his rinnegan, not because of the rinnegan. The fact that Nagato had both rinnegans, but had no rikkudo chakra greatly supports this. Even if Sasuke got his chakra from the rinnegan, this does not support that Madara does as well in the slightest, as Sasuke's rinnegan is a stage above the normal as his "eye powers return" from going from an ordinary rinnegan to his.

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All evidence points away from Madara getting additional rikkudo chakra from the rinnegan. Madara simply has rikkudo senjutsu more or less equal to Naruto's from the juubi to fuel the rinnegan. That's it.

This can't be compared to biju susanoo, in which Sasuke takes his rikkudo-enhanced susanoo, and does the opposite of COAT with the biju chakra. What this means is that Sasuke essentially created a juubi within his rikkudo susanoo, to vastly enhance it.

As for limbo susanoo, assuming that they can use it, this is assuming that Madara has the chakra to support 5 susanoos, and this trick is easily done by anybody that also has clones ex. Naruto, Sasuke.
I am just gonna post this because I am bored right NOW! Hagoromo's chakra=Rikudo chakra!
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We always talking on the basis of nothing because in the manga we could not see the Susanoo JJ Madara.

For all we know he could be even more powerful than Susanoo Sasuke and Kakashi Susanoo put together....They are just guesses.

Given the power of Madara, for me it would have been more powerfull than Sasuke's Susanoo.

Just see the normal Susanoo Sasuke rinnegan how was powerful thanks to the powers of Rikudou (He used even the jutsu lol), and do you think the Susanoo of JJ Madara would remain the same as Susanoo EMS? ahahahaha, okay.
So true and also If I remember correct Kakashi's PS came from Obito's Rikudo chakra which he stole from JJ Madara! That small fraction of JJ Madara's power made Obito's eyes more powerful and manifested the PS. Imagine how more powerful would Rinnegan JJ Madara PS since already having the Rinnegan gives you Rikudo Chakra + the Juubi with its Natural Energy & Massive Chakra... It would be too OP.
 

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I am just gonna post this because I am bored right NOW! Hagoromo's chakra=Rikudo chakra!
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In which the only effect was getting the rinnegan. If the rikkudo chakra was linked to the rinnegan, Nagato would have had it, which he didn't. If it was linked to Madara's body, actually, no, I don't even have to argue about that part since he had to acquire senjutsu. If he had rikkudo chakra, he'd have senjutsu by default, which he didn't. Madara having rikkudo chakra without the juubi is fanfic.
 

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U forgot sasuke has 1 sharinnegan

While Madara has 1 sharinnegan on the fore head and 2 rinnegans as eyes

TOO OP

3 op eyes vs a guy with 1 op eye
Well Madara has a Rinne Sharingan + Double Rinnegan. Although that Sasuke's Rinnegan is different the 4th DB said and from what we see it's still a Rinnegan...
 

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In which the only effect was getting the rinnegan. If the rikkudo chakra was linked to the rinnegan, Nagato would have had it, which he didn't. If it was linked to Madara's body, actually, no, I don't even have to argue about that part since he had to acquire senjutsu. If he had rikkudo chakra, he'd have senjutsu by default, which he didn't. Madara having rikkudo chakra without the juubi is fanfic.
Look you misunderstand one thing... Rikudo Chakra and Rikudo Senjutsu are 2 different things. Sasuke for example has Rikudo Chakra and doesn't have Rikudo Senjutsu. Having the Rinnegan which gives the user Rikudo chakra doesn't mean that you have Rikudo Senjutsu.... Rikudo chakra is the chakra of the Sage that why he said Madara awakend my chakra and thus the Rinnegan. This what the manga says so its not fanfic...
 

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i would've just quit reading, checked myself into a hospital, and then tell a nurse/doctor that i was dying from a sheer overload of awesomeness.
 
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