What could have made relationships in Naruto better?

[Avani]

I believe not having a contrived relationship would be a great start.

A belief is a belief.

Maybe remove love triangles and have dedicated subplots so people don’t have to deal with jarring timeskip and left to use headcanons

Or maybe don't over think pairings when the story is not really about it?

For example if one was abused or had their life almost taken. Would them ending up together in a timeskip make for good writing?

No one was exactly being "abused" and attempt to life was more on principles on one side and crazed state of mind on another - it's something very subjective. And yes such people ending together after a time skip which has settled the issue of conflict is not bad writing. Whether Kishimoto was able to write is well is another argument but your personal disagreement with such a relationship has little to do with quality of writing.

Or people with zero prior interactions from another village having children make sense?

The war arc was all interactions and followed by peace process and time skip. You can ask how come all the kids are in the same age braccket- but that's that. Maybe something like millennium baby craze.

This doesn’t necessarily have to be related to romance but characters in general. Try to not mention names since users seem to cry when anyone is mentioned.

Such thinly veiled attempts... lol

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[Sub]So we're going to keep the ball rolling because mods are on a roll.[/Sub]​

Sigh

[Sub]That is the dynamic Kishimoto chose for their relationship. You're acting like this is the first dysfunctional relationship to reach a happy conclusion in shonen. Hint: it is not.[/Sub]​

It's not - rather a trope used in many movies and work of fiction.

[Sub]What pairings Kishimoto made, how he presented them, and how much screen time he gave them is all down to him. Just because the development of one pairing happened predominantly off-panel does not necessarily mean their particular relationship is contrived.[/Sub]​

This^

 

[Jiren]

Muchmuch much more development.even the friendships were horribly explained especially naruto and Sasuke.

 

[JStar King]

Consistent build up and chemistry. Many NV pairing are forced and random asf! Some are downright pathetic and is the dawn of stupidity when it comes to certain characters.

Just because they look cute together, doesn't make them a good pairing.

:kk:

 

[123fire]

That makes no sense.

Naruto and Sakura is a weird relationship, that's for sure. I don't understand it at all.

Ah, I see.

I see it now. How did I miss it?

Those were tears of joy indeed. I understand why now, but they are too incompatible to survive as partners. They should just be friends.

To be honest, they were doing better separated from one another; Sakura became the best medical ninja and sasuke became the best well, assassin ninja.

Those were tears of joy because he was saving her from what she was unable to handle. When the responsibility and burdens become too great; that's when he swoops in to save her by destroying her. It's too painful for her to live; the burden is too great, so he destroys the walls she creates to free her.

Sasuke isn't that bad I guess.

But the problem is that he can't save her; and she's no longer building walls or frustrated. She's fine; which is why he has no purpose in relation to her anymore. In a way, having Sarada confined them from their full potential. They should never have married or gotten together. They should have remained apart.

I bet Sakura no longer loves him because she no longer needs him. She's free.

Knowing Tsunade, Sakura would have gone off travelling the world, helping people and solving concerns as well as getting even stronger because unlike Tsunade, she didn't suffer loss, she suffered being overburdened beyond reasonable belief.

She could have developed her pure chakra manipulation by making a defensive derivative.

They don't need each other anymore, but they should remain friends.

I think a simple thank you should have been enough. I believe Sasuke feels confined to the marriage and so does Sakura; they are incompatible.

It's like this;

Sakura has the courage to say:

"Sasuke, arigatou."

Sakura leaves the village to rebuild herself and find her way.

Sasuke smiles faintly; he takes responsibility for the bad reputation of the Uchiha clan from years of hatred towards it for its malpractices and stays in Konoha to give service.

Except Sasuke is a selfish ####, so he probably teleported in front of her as she is about to leave and tells her, "you're going to rebuild my clan with me."

So instead of Sakura going to travel the world and build friends as well as develop jutsu and skill, Sasuke makes her a house wife.

Damnit, Sasuke.

Didn't he realize that, in a way, he overburdened her by doing that? She could have become a lot stronger by now by remaining in practice and sustaining herself even further in the field of medicine.

This is all speculation, I might be wrong, but I try to understand characters in every piece of anime or cartoon; the most interesting ones to decipher were Azula and Edd; I remember writing a 6 page essay on Azula alone.

She doesn't need him anymore; she'll only become bitter. I bet she's trying to give the marriage false hope but honestly, you can't love a psychopath, girl. Get going with your life!

I ended up writing a lot, but your question prompted a lot of other questions that I tried to answer.

didn't u say u don't care about fictional characters? writing all this i think u care u hypocrite

 

[Queen of Bananas]

To be honest, this is why I like One Piece better than Naruto; there is no false marriage or as you put it, "contrived" marriages; people are free and independent which is why so much goes right for them.

Friendship is essential for survival and therefore most valuable as a life skill.

I only tolerate Naruto because I really relate with and understand Gaara as a character. Otherwise, you'd see me giving all the fad about Dr. Kureha, Hiluluk, Chopper, Robin, and several other characters from One Piece which I prefer.

Honestly, Gaara is the only reason why I even bother with Naruto these days.

didn't u say u don't care about fictional characters? writing all this i think u care u hypocrite

I'm moody.

I used to be a huge fan of anime and cartoons.

Like I just said, I am no longer that interested and the only reason I tolerate Naruto is because I really feel connected to Gaara as a character.

I used to write essays and all that, but not anymore.

 

[Darth Natsu Shazneel]

That makes no sense.

Naruto and Sakura is a weird relationship, that's for sure. I don't understand it at all.

Ah, I see.

I see it now. How did I miss it?

Those were tears of joy indeed. I understand why now, but they are too incompatible to survive as partners. They should just be friends.

To be honest, they were doing better separated from one another; Sakura became the best medical ninja and sasuke became the best well, assassin ninja.

Those were tears of joy because he was saving her from what she was unable to handle. When the responsibility and burdens become too great; that's when he swoops in to save her by destroying her. It's too painful for her to live; the burden is too great, so he destroys the walls she creates to free her.

Sasuke isn't that bad I guess.

But the problem is that he can't save her; and she's no longer building walls or frustrated. She's fine; which is why he has no purpose in relation to her anymore. In a way, having Sarada confined them from their full potential. They should never have married or gotten together. They should have remained apart.

I bet Sakura no longer loves him because she no longer needs him. She's free.

Knowing Tsunade, Sakura would have gone off travelling the world, helping people and solving concerns as well as getting even stronger because unlike Tsunade, she didn't suffer loss, she suffered being overburdened beyond reasonable belief.

She could have developed her pure chakra manipulation by making a defensive derivative.

They don't need each other anymore, but they should remain friends.

I think a simple thank you should have been enough. I believe Sasuke feels confined to the marriage and so does Sakura; they are incompatible.

It's like this;

Sakura has the courage to say:

"Sasuke, arigatou."

Sakura leaves the village to rebuild herself and find her way.

Sasuke smiles faintly; he takes responsibility for the bad reputation of the Uchiha clan from years of hatred towards it for its malpractices and stays in Konoha to give service.

Except Sasuke is a selfish ####, so he probably teleported in front of her as she is about to leave and tells her, "you're going to rebuild my clan with me."

So instead of Sakura going to travel the world and build friends as well as develop jutsu and skill, Sasuke makes her a house wife.

Damnit, Sasuke.

Didn't he realize that, in a way, he overburdened her by doing that? She could have become a lot stronger by now by remaining in practice and sustaining herself even further in the field of medicine.

This is all speculation, I might be wrong, but I try to understand characters in every piece of anime or cartoon; the most interesting ones to decipher were Azula and Edd; I remember writing a 6 page essay on Azula alone.

She doesn't need him anymore; she'll only become bitter. I bet she's trying to give the marriage false hope but honestly, you can't love a psychopath, girl. Get going with your life!

I ended up writing a lot, but your question prompted a lot of other questions that I tried to answer.

I can’t be bothered with this. All of these things seem like random bulletin notes. I have no idea where your going with this. A small summary would be nice.

 

[Queen of Bananas]

I can’t be bothered with this. All of these things seem like random bulletin notes. I have no idea where your going with this. A small summary would be nice.

"thank you"

 

[Avani]

I’d prefer if you didn’t post in my thread.

I’m not going to acknowledge this post as it’s from a deleted thread and off topic. Please delete this and pm me.

Or you cn use ignore button for the posts you don't wish to see.

OT: lot of great responses. Realism would have been beneficial. Maybe get editors or writers with experience in romance.

Actually the manga romance - limited as it is, is realistic. More realistic than the one provided in the movie to satisfy teen romance. Relationships can be complex and still work. People compromise, forgive each other and find the common ground and grow in more ways than the imaginary perfect relationships that exist only in unrealistic fiction. Believe in it too much and you won't last in ny relationship.

 

[Char Aznable]

Less Uchiha wank and more stories for the characters who actually matter and or make it to the end of the series.

 

[Darth Natsu Shazneel]

To be honest, this is why I like One Piece better than Naruto; there is no false marriage or as you put it, "contrived" marriages; people are free and independent which is why so much goes right for them.

Friendship is essential for survival and therefore most valuable as a life skill.

I only tolerate Naruto because I really relate with and understand Gaara as a character. Otherwise, you'd see me giving all the fad about Dr. Kureha, Hiluluk, Chopper, Robin, and several other characters from One Piece which I prefer.

Honestly, Gaara is the only reason why I even bother with Naruto these days.



I'm moody.

I used to be a huge fan of anime and cartoons.

Like I just said, I am no longer that interested and the only reason I tolerate Naruto is because I really feel connected to Gaara as a character.

I used to write essays and all that, but not anymore.

Gaara ended up like a old Nazi character.

If you are going to write essays try to connect your meaning together. Don’t write random bullitin points.

 

[Dgrayman]

[Sub]Concession accepted.[/Sub]​

Salamander alt confirmed.?


ot: Nothing, i like them the way they are

 

[Queen of Bananas]

Gaara ended up like a old Nazi character.

If you are going to write essays try to connect your meaning together. Don’t write random bullitin points.

As an aspiring chemical engineer and independent woman; I'm quite alright with non-harmonic speech and written textual expression.

 

[To Whatever]

Or you cn use ignore button for the posts you don't wish to see.



Actually the manga romance - limited as it is, is realistic. More realistic than the one provided in the movie to satisfy teen romance. Relationships can be complex and still work. People compromise, forgive each other and find the common ground and grow in more ways than the imaginary perfect relationships that exist only in unrealistic fiction. Believe in it too much and you won't last in ny relationship.

So we can post off topic now in regard to other, unjustified deleted threads?

 

[Darth Natsu Shazneel]

As an aspiring chemical engineer and independent woman; I'm quite alright with non-harmonic speech and written textual expression.

You lack intel in Naruto pairings. Get better and read more.

 

[Avani]

To be honest, this is why I like One Piece better than Naruto; there is no false marriage or as you put it, "contrived" marriages; people are free and independent which is why so much goes right for them.

You just declare that Sasule made Sakura a housewife and blocked her progress as medic- you should stick to OP if you cannot be bothered to pay enough attention- she is not a housewife.

 

[To Whatever]

You just declare that Sasule made Sakura a housewife and blocked her progress as medic- you should stick to OP if you cannot be bothered to pay enough attention- she is not a housewife.

She was at one point.

 

[Avani]

So we can post off topic now in regard to other, unjustified deleted threads?

He made one passing comment but rest of the post was on topic while more than one post here with more pointless comments like that with less on topic content. Which is indeed BS. So keep the attitude aside. OK?

She was at one point.

What point that was really?

 

[Queen of Bananas]

You lack intel in Naruto pairings. Get better and read more.

You just declare that Sasule made Sakura a housewife and blocked her progress as medic- you should stick to OP if you cannot be bothered to pay enough attention- she is not a housewife.

Nah, Masashi Kishimoto is just quite terrible at writing about relationships.

Oda understands that element does not quite resonate with the progress of his characters and serves to further limit them, therefore, he refrains from adding relationship in his story lines.

In any case, I thoroughly enjoyed Naruto. I just hoped it was written better.

I'm more disappointed in the random plot-no-jutsus than any other aspect of the piece; not to mention things that don't make sense or total @ss pulls.

One Piece is not better than Naruto and neither is Naruto better than One Piece.

Both have their merits and are distinct in design but also similar in their thematic elements.

I appreciate the beauty of both and am reminiscent of their flaws.

Gaara did not become a Hitler; Gaara became himself; which is docile, kind, calm, assertive, reliable, stable. Before he was troubled by the negative influences of his father. He found the courage to be himself because he received medicine; that which none, even Sakura - the best medical ninjutsu could provide him; "love."

 

[Kakooli]

Kishi could have made Naruto reciprocate Hinita Hiyuga coons feelings in a canon manga chapter...at least just once

sasusaku was done well so no need to change things

 

[Darth Natsu Shazneel]

Gaara did not become a Hitler; Gaara became himself; which is docile, kind, calm, assertive, reliable, stable. Before he was troubled by the negative influences of his father. He found the courage to be himself because he received medicine; that which none, even Sakura - the best medical ninjutsu could provide him; "love."

How about you make a Gaara thread so we can firther talk about this.