What constitutes parenthood?

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A parent isn't just the person who brings you into this world, that's only the first requirement. The second requirement is to be responsible for you while you grow up, to protect you and feed you while teaching you manners. Sarada may have been Karin's biological daughter, however Karin failed as a mother and couldn't raise her for whatever reason. That responsibility went to Sakura who was Sarada's guardian. From a genetic point of view Sakura had no such obligation but this touches on the theme of this weeks chapter. It's not just your genes that matter, your feelings about one another play a huge role while raising your kid. However, from a genetic standpoint Sakura's motivations were so she would have a chance at getting her own biological kids with Sasuke, it's a complex situation that makes you appreciate Kishimoto's story in this sequel. Anyhow, I will stop calling Sakura useless from now on, I'm sure Karin is grateful to her for doing the task of raising Sarada because she couldn't for some reason.
 

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I agree and I think this is what Sakura tried to tell her.
 

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Sarada is not the product of SS. While poking Sakura in the forehead, Sasuke was poking Karin somewhere else. :lmao:
 

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that depends on who you ask. To some ppl, the pair of ppl whose genes they came into the world with are their only parents.
 

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You are correct, but considering Sasuke and Sakura are married, I think Karin helped them conceive by being a surrogate because Sakura couldn't, rather than her just "borrowing" Karin's daughter.

So instead of Sakura taking care of Karin's child because Karin couldn't, Karin nurtured Sakura's child in her belly because Sakura couldn't.
 

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So, Sasuke is not the father?
 

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that depends on who you ask. To some ppl, the pair of ppl whose genes they came into the world with are their only parents.
Disregarding any emotional bond you developed with your guardian who took care of you your whole life?
 

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I agree with you, parenthood is more than who your genes match up with. Basing it all on genetics is implying that adoptive parents can't possibly be parents to their adopted children.
 

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Damage control is real
Sarada is not the product of SS.
While poking Sakura in the forehead, Sasuke was poking Karin somewhere else. :lmao:

What damage control? You can't deny the fact that Sakura has always been the mother figure to Sarada due to Karin's absence. Genetics be damned, Sakura has every single right to be treated by Sarada as her mom.

So, Sasuke is not the father?

No one is contesting Sasuke as the father. He for sure is, biologically. But he's definitely lacking on the other responsibilities of being a parent.
 

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You are correct, but considering Sasuke and Sakura are married, I think Karin helped them conceive by being a surrogate because Sakura couldn't, rather than her just "borrowing" Karin's daughter.

So instead of Sakura taking care of Karin's child because Karin couldn't, Karin nurtured Sakura's child in her belly because Sakura couldn't.
That's not how it works, she wasn't intending on leaving her child behind when she got pregnant. Sarada belongs to Sasuke and Karin, she wasn't Sakura's child untill they allowed it and she will never be Sakura's child fully even if she raised her all her life. However genetics don't matter if you love each other.
 

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Disregarding any emotional bond you developed with your guardian who took care of you your whole life?
the only thing i'm saying is that everyone wouldn't agree with the idea that it doesn't matter who their birth parents are. Whether or not it's the truth, adopted ppl still wouldn't want to go their entire lives not knowing whose genes they carry even if the adopted parents did a stellar job.
 

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the only thing i'm saying is that everyone wouldn't agree with the idea that it doesn't matter who their birth parents are. Whether or not it's the truth, adopted ppl still wouldn't want to go their entire lives not knowing whose genes they carry even if the adopted parents did a stellar job.
Curiousity would prompt them, they would want to know why their biological parents couldn't raise them. However, after finding the reason, even if you love your biological parents. It's a fact that they failed as parents because again, parenthood is more than genetics. They play their part but the one who raised you is your true parent, not those who simply gave birth to you.
 

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Curiousity would prompt them, they would want to know why their biological parents couldn't raise them. However, after finding the reason, even if you love your biological parents. It's a fact that they failed as parents because again, parenthood is more than genetics. They play their part but the one who raised you is your true parent, not the one who simply gave birth to you.
if it's more important to be the one who raised someone than be the one who gave birth, then Sakura should've had absolutely no qualms in withholding the fact that Salad is someone else's progeny from her for as long she's been alive. Seeing as though she's been beating around the bush about it, it obviously worried Sakura that her own particular parenting beliefs wasn't going to hold the same value to Salad.
 

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Giving birth connects the child with the mother. Its a bond thats powerful and is different and only mother's will know.
But taking care of a child, teaching him/her good habits and guiding them is what a parent must do. This is what Sakura has been doing. Even if Sarada is Karin's, I don't give a damn because Sakura has been both a mother and a father to Sarada. I will always respect her for that.
 

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if it's more important to be the one who raised someone than be the one who gave birth, then Sakura should've had absolutely no qualms in withholding the fact that Salad is someone else's progeny from her for as long she's been alive. Seeing as though she's been beating around the bush about it, it obviously worried Sakura that her own particular parenting beliefs wasn't going to hold the same value to Salad.
Because we don't know the full story and it's not really appropriate to let Sarada think she is not her true parent when she's really young. All Sarada need right now is closure, she simply wants to know the reason she was raised how she was and she will come to understand that genetics is 50% of parenthood. She is only emotional right now.
 

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What if father isn't Sasuke and Tobidara ?

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Because we don't know the full story and it's not really appropriate to let Sarada think she is not her true parent when she's really young. All Sarada need right now is closure, she simply wants to know the reason she was raised how she was and she will come to understand that genetics is 50% of parenthood. She is only emotional right now.
what is inappropriate about a kid getting an honest answer to a question? She only asked if Sakura was her real mother, not how babies were made. Salad's head wasn't going to explode from getting an answer that only required a "yes" or "no".
 

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What damage control? You can't deny the fact that Sakura has always been the mother figure to Sarada due to Karin's absence. Genetics be damned, Sakura has every single right to be treated by Sarada as her mom.
No nanny is not equal to mother and genetics can't be damned
 

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what is inappropriate about a kid getting an honest answer to a question? She only asked if Sakura was her real mother, not how babies were made. Salad's head wasn't going to explode from getting an answer that only required a "yes" or "no".
Because during her earliest years she needs the comfort of having a parent close to her even if she's not her biological one. She could've told Sarada and probably would once she went through her teenage years. Sakura beating around the bush is reflected back on Sasuke and Karin's lack of responsibility.
 

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Because during her earliest years she needs the comfort of having a parent close to her even if she's not her biological one. She could've told Sarada and probably would once she went through her teenage years. Sakura beating around the bush is reflected back on Sasuke and Karin's lack of responsibility.
it's not really Sasuke's fault that Sakura personally took it upon herself to keep Karin in the dark about something she wanted answers to. Even if someone in Salad's situation was too young to be informed of it when during her first several yrs of life, she still could've been informed of it after she at least turned 7. Sakura was there and she alone decided to continue beating around the bush about it. It's because of Sakura that Salad took it upon herself to leave the village and find out the truth for herself in the first place, not Sasuke.
 
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