Were the Hyuga even the strongest with the absence of the Uchiha?

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It can be argued it was because he was a clone that airpalms affects didn't do much.

Lets say it did hit one of the clones vital spots and did some damage (not enough to outright kill it like Gai/Naruto), How is that going to slow it down when the person who is controlling him cannot feel said pain?

The bold doesn't make sense. The original Kisame not feeling pain doesn't mean that the clone can't be injured or slowed down by physical attacks when it's a living physical body. Not a puppet in any sense besides the fact it's being manipulated by someone from afar. If Itachi was controlling someone via Genjutsu would they not still be slowed down by attacks of that nature despite Itachi himself not feeling said Pain? Naturally it would.
 

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Gentle fist destorys chakra by injecting the users chakra into someone or something.

Unless airpalm injects chakra upon hitting someone, It doesn't destroy chakra like other gentle fist techniques. So no

Literally every Hyuga supporter in this thread is arguing that it does insert chakra into the body, that's the ONLY way to hit the vital spots is to make contact internally.
 

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lol they r tiers below asuma's level based on what exactly when he has no feats?



edgy hedgie


like asuma?

and lol @ the implication that feats dont count if they are from part 1!!!

and yeah, Neji does have feats in part 2.



asuma feats please. gimme



coming from person who says featles asuma beats a jonin hyuga with advanced eyes and taijutsu.

We're done here son. I'm not going to argue with a moron who will even imply that he'll put PTS Naruto and them on Asuma's level because Asuma has a limited amount of feats.

Sit back and let the grown ups talk child.
 

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How on earth are Raw scans considered fanmade?.

Even the viz doesn't even prove your point about him implying it was FTG simply because he said teleporting. Shunshin literally translates to Teleportation, So viz saying teleportation doesn't rule out shunshin in the slightest. Even the Kanji in the raw scan points towards shunshin.

Raw scans > Viz > every other form of translation

I never said raw was fanmade? Lol, I was referring the Lady Byakugan's fanmade manga page link.

Actually Viz does prove my point. What was Tobirama known for other than his genius, and Uchiha segregation? FTG. Which is what? Instant Teleportation.

What was Minato known for? FTG.

Tobirama said this: "You're even better at teleportation that I."

Clearly not hard to see he's referring to their respective connection (FTG).
 

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"Hey guys, Neji is so stronk. He beats Asuma cuz he beat PTS Naruto in Taijutsu
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Lmao. Fanboys man. They kill me.
 

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I never said raw was fanmade? Lol, I was referring the Lady Byakugan's fanmade manga page link.

Actually Viz does prove my point. What was Tobirama known for other than his genius, and Uchiha segregation? FTG. Which is what? Instant Teleportation.

What was Minato known for? FTG.

Tobirama said this: "You're even better at teleportation that I."

Clearly not hard to see he's referring to their respective connection (FTG).

raw says body flicker.
 

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We're done here son. I'm not going to argue with a moron who will even imply that he'll put PTS Naruto and them on Asuma's level because Asuma has a limited amount of feats.

Sit back and let the grown ups talk child.

i was not talkign about naruto but kidomaru. wow wow wow
 

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Kisame took no damage. None. Zero. Unaffected in even the slightest way. You can make excuses all you want it doesn't change what is shown. Kisame being somewhat durable isn't an excuse that lets you argue that it does any serious damage to Asuma. Knocking him back a few meters is a feat now? I hope not because I can get physical attacks from people like Naruto and Kakashi that knocked people back that far yet did no significant damage.

What's even worse for your case is that the Kisame that they fought was a clone. ;lol

Air Palm is just a blown air. it is similar to a punch or a palm thrust, does a punch cause damage? yes but it depends on how powerful it is and how durable is the victim.

when Korutsuchi punched Kinshiki , no significant damage was done, but anyone can see that it is powerful enough to take down an average Shinobi

Air palm is just a forceful attack directed at a vital spot. that's it

and yes that was a clone, the same clone that tanked a punch from 6th Gate Gai so...
 

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Clearly Tobirama wasn't talking about Shunshin, literally it's been depicted several times that FTG was used to enter the battlefield.
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No way in hell are Hiruzen, and Hashirama arriving at the exact same time as Tobirama, who has the FTG, and is faster than the two.
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Come on now...
 

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Clearly Tobirama wasn't talking about Shunshin, literally it's been depicted several times that FTG was used to enter the battlefield.
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No way in hell are Hiruzen, and Hashirama arriving at the exact same time as Tobirama, who has the FTG, and is faster than the two.
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Come on now...

raw says shushin. stop dancing around the issue. u keep throwing assumptions as 2 y it is ftg and not shushin when the manga clear as day says otherwise. anyways, how on earth does minato arriving with his TM weapon prove anything?
 

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Uchiha fappers are too butthurt to realise that sasuke is only strong because of Indra chakra ,Itachi eyes and Hagoromo power.Without those 3 he is slightly above average Hyuga

Give those 3 to any decent Hyuga and they would be on pair with him.

Hyugas fight with their own power.
 

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Air Palm is just a blown air. it is similar to a punch or a palm thrust, does a punch cause damage? yes but it depends on how powerful it is and how durable is the victim.

when Korutsuchi punched Kinshiki , no significant damage was done, but anyone can see that it is powerful enough to take down an average Shinobi

Air palm is just a forceful attack directed at a vital spot. that's it

and yes that was a clone, the same clone that tanked a punch from 6th Gate Gai so...

So now I'd like for you to get back to the argument at hand, cause nothing you are posting tells us why Neji wins nor does it even show that Air Palm is a major factor in this fight.

A punch? No, he got kicked and he took damage. So that's not a tank. Does this mean Air Palm does significant damage to Asuma? No, not really. :lol

Clearly Tobirama wasn't talking about Shunshin, literally it's been depicted several times that FTG was used to enter the battlefield.
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No way in hell are Hiruzen, and Hashirama arriving at the exact same time as Tobirama, who has the FTG, and is faster than the two.
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Come on now...

"B-b-but ...they got there at the same time! Hiruzen=Hashirama=Tobirama in speed. Shino>Killer B in speed as well since he got to the battlefield first"

Lmaoo "Lady" Byakugan really kills me with this BS.

Oh yeah, and btw. The latter scan does talk about Shunshin, but it refers to Minato setting his Kunai around the field for the Hokage Barrier. You are definitely correct about him entering the battlefield using Hiraishin as it so blatantly shows in the scan.

But alas....fanboys

Uchiha fappers are too butthurt to realise that sasuke is only strong because of Indra chakra ,Itachi eyes and Hagoromo power.Without those 3 he is slightly above average Hyuga

Give those 3 to any decent Hyuga and they would be on pair with him.

Hyugas fight with their own power.

>Uchiha fans are butthurt.
>Yet you are sitting here making petty excuses. Grow up kiddo.

The only one butthurt is you and that's why you are always spamming shitty threads desperately trying to gain NB's approval.
 
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Kisame absorbs chakra w/ Samehada first of all. Second of all durability has nothing to do with internal damage. Gentle Fist's whole point is to bypass a tough body. Yet Air Palm hit him and he wasn't damaged, so the logical conclusion is that it does not share that ability of Gentle fist.

I guess I can rule out the chakra absorbing then. Thanks for that bit. Still, I would put Kisame in isolated case, with high durability. I welcome your argument, I will just wait for an actual air palm internal damage, if there are gonna be any. Although the chances are really slim since air palms always have been packaged as mid-range pressure attacks.

I don't understand man. Air Palm clearly doesn't do physical damage, as shown via canon.
Guys listen. Vital spots = pressure points.
Pressure points = internal. Hence, why acupuncture, and acupressure are done through the internal affairs.

Air palm is a Gentle Fist technique, and Gentle Fist chakra if inserted = destroys chakra. This did not happen, if it did make contact with Kisame's vitals, the clone would've dispersed, as it did when Gai destroyed it, because that's what Gentle Fist does, it like I keep saying, destroys chakra.

So if neither happened, and Samehada was out of range, unable to absorb the chakra.

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How the hell does Kisame tank an internal damage jutsu? He doesn't. What he tanked was a technique that did no physical harm at all.

A "vacuum shell" compressed using the Gentle Fist is formed to attack the opponent's vitals from a distance, blowing them off their feet with tremendous force before they even notice they were hit.

Vitals=internal organs.
Kisame, the Byakugan wrecker.
 

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thread is full of wanking featless asuma and denying manga facts that are clear as day.

so much unbias
 

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So now I'd like for you to get back to the argument at hand, cause nothing you are posting tells us why Neji wins nor does it even show that Air Palm is a major factor in this fight.

A punch? No, he got kicked and he took damage. So that's not a tank. Does this mean Air Palm does significant damage to Asuma? No, not really. :lol



"B-b-but ...they got there at the same time! Hiruzen=Hashirama=Tobirama in speed. Shino>Killer B in speed as well since he got to the battlefield first"

Lmaoo "Lady" Byakugan really kills me with this BS.

Oh yeah, and btw. The latter scan does talk about Shunshin, but it refers to Minato setting his Kunai around the field for the Hokage Barrier. You are definitely correct about him entering the battlefield using Hiraishin as it so blatantly shows in the scan.

But alas....fanboys

Literally me right now.
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None of this is really that hard to understand. NB's NDS is equal to NF's VS section. Smh.
 

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Sure, Hiruzen > any Hyuga and Asuma > any Hyuga bar Hiashi, but that doesn't even come close to making up for the other Hyuga clan members. Not even close, especially since Hiashi alone would defeat Asuma pretty comfortably. As for the other Sarutobi clan members, it's a million times more likely that the Hyuga as a whole are stronger than them since the Hyuga have Byakugan.

That's really just an assumption though since we only have feats from a few members from each clan.

Kid gamer has a point.

If the entire clan worked together id imagine they would be quite tough to take down. Hiashi alone used an air palm to halt the Juubi. 1 full clan air palm i imagine would be quite devastating. Even if no one dies it would be enough to route/disrupt any other clan opposition.

A full hyuuga clan at close range using rotation and jyuken would give any one trouble.
 
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Lol why do people use kido as neji feats to be relevant in shippuden. Didnt kimi beat kido ass and the other 3 all by himself in a flashback.
 

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I guess I can rule out the chakra absorbing then. Thanks for that bit. Still, I would put Kisame in isolated case, with high durability. I welcome your argument, I will just wait for an actual air palm internal damage, if there are gonna be any. Although the chances are really slim since air palms always have been packaged as mid-range pressure attacks.

No, there is no reason to put him as an isolated case. :lol You credit durability yet Gentle Fist bypasses that

And no, there aren't going to be anymore feats for that jutsu so in reality what you are saying is that you won't agree because you don't want to. Lmao. Exactly what I was talking about a few pages back.
 

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So now I'd like for you to get back to the argument at hand, cause nothing you are posting tells us why Neji wins nor does it even show that Air Palm is a major factor in this fight.

A punch? No, he got kicked and he took damage. So that's not a tank. Does this mean Air Palm does significant damage to Asuma? No, not really. :lol



"B-b-but ...they got there at the same time! Hiruzen=Hashirama=Tobirama in speed. Shino>Killer B in speed as well since he got to the battlefield first"

Lmaoo "Lady" Byakugan really kills me with this BS.

Oh yeah, and btw. The latter scan does talk about Shunshin, but it refers to Minato setting his Kunai around the field for the Hokage Barrier. You are definitely correct about him entering the battlefield using Hiraishin as it so blatantly shows in the scan.

But alas....fanboys



>Uchiha fans are butthurt.
>Yet you are sitting here making petty excuses. Grow up kiddo.

The only one butthurt is you and that's why you are always spamming shitty threads desperately trying to gain NB's approval.
Madara is my favorite followed by Might Gai.

I know why my favorite is strong . Every fodder with Hagoromo / Juubi power is going to beat 99 % of Naruto verse.

They are butthurt when someone use Kaguya as Byakugan feats, but they dont mind using someone with Ashura chakra and Hagoromo power against base persons.

Get lost
 
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So now I'd like for you to get back to the argument at hand, cause nothing you are posting tells us why Neji wins nor does it even show that Air Palm is a major factor in this fight.

A punch? No, he got kicked and he took damage. So that's not a tank. Does this mean Air Palm does significant damage to Asuma? No, not really. :lol

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she punched him and no significant damage was caused. but anyone with common sense can see that it can take down an average shinobi

the Air Palm being able to blow Kisame meters away proves that it is forceful

a normal punch can cause a significant damage if it was directed at a vital spot, so why can't an air palm?
 
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