Were the Hyuga even the strongest with the absence of the Uchiha?

[KidGamer65]

ye neji had few feats in part 2 but add the few he had w/ the ones in part 1 VS asuma's empty list of feats beyond hitting a static boulder and tree?

Lmao this guy really thinks that adding feats from Neji that he displayed against Chuunin level opponents helps him in any match against someone like Asuma. Stop quoting me if you have nothing useful to say. :lol

 

[Made in Heaven]

Lmao this guy really thinks that adding feats from Neji that he displayed against Chuunin level opponents helps him in any match against someone like Asuma. Stop quoting me if you have nothing useful to say. :lol

hey i want some asuma feats. oh wait there r none enough to say he beats neji. and lol at bringing up ranks and hyping asume with no feats to back it up

 

[DrProof]

Lol this is so stupid. Lol "im not saying fire and poison are similar" than proceeds you directly compare them in a situation in which the two things have nothing to do with each other. Resistance is not a blanket attributes, because a deep sea fish can adapt to high pressure zones and low temp doesnt mean it wouldnt fry like almost everything else in a fire. Just because bugs have a specific resistance to poison doesn't mean they can adjust their genetic code to pull all new fire proof shells from their *******s.

What? I never compared them as similarities you goof. I stated resistance can be amassed for both poison, and fire yes. That doesn't mean they're similar. Don't quote me again, ignorance is strong in the NDS. Bugs don't have a specific resistance to poison, clearly you're not as intelligent, or perceptive as you think you are; especially if you can't conclude that the Aburame clan's beetles aren't kin to our own real world beetles, that and the fact Naruto =/= real life.

You're a clown, a clown who can't even comprehend a basic ability known as adaption.

 

[KidGamer65]

o perform it, the user precisely pinpoints the enemy's vital points with the Byakugan and releases a high-speed palm thrust.

Air palm likely has internal damage. It is also the version of Kaiten for a specific rather than a general area

A scan was just posted where it was shown doing no damage.

hey i want some asuma feats. oh wait there r none enough to say he beats neji. and lol at bringing up ranks and hyping asume with no feats to back it up

Like I said, don't quote me if you have nothing useful to say. Go have your little fangasms elsewhere. Asuma kills Neji and it's not high difficulty.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

"A "vacuum shell" compressed using the Gentle Fist is formed to attack the opponent's vitals from a distance, blowing them off their feet with tremendous force before they even notice they were hit."

 

[KidGamer65]

"A "vacuum shell" compressed using the Gentle Fist is formed to attack the opponent's vitals from a distance, blowing them off their feet with tremendous force before they even notice they were hit."

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[DrProof]

yep it is shushin not ftg so i am right

瞬身 "instant body" according to google translate

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hey. since ur unbias and reasonable, now that u know am right u will accept hinata's speed feat right?

Google Translate... That's what we're doing now? We're relying on a tool that's utterly shit in deciphering foreign languages? My, oh my.

Viz > Fan translations > Google Translator. Seriously man. Just admit you're wrong.

To be fair that was just a puppet being controlled by kisame.

Even if it did hit an vital spot/do damage, it wouldn't slow him down like it would a normal person because it's just a puppet being controlled with chakra.

Gentle Fist destroys chakra, vital spots are internal, if said chakra actually made contact with a vital spot, its chakra would've been destroyed.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

A scan was just posted where it was shown doing no damage.

Kisame might be an isolated case. We all know how he has immense chakra prowess and the ability to absorb chakra.
And you have every right to counter argue bec air palms was never really shown to have massive internal damage, albeit descriptions. Display of action and cinematography focuses on its "pressure" factor.

 

[Hakke]

I never said you did. I said it simply doesn't deal damage so it grants no advantage whatsoever, especially in hand to hand combat considering you'll be busy evading and trying to parry your enemies attacks not using techniques. So yeah, Neji doesn't stand a chance of victory. A technique that does nothing but blow the opponent back a few meters isn't a game changing technique. Not even close. :lol

the attack is forceful seeing how it blew Kisame meters away and the DB clearly stated it is focused on the vital spots. Kisame was durable and we have the fact not every vital spot causes a serious damage. but some of them does and some of them can even result in death.

Air palm is just like a normal powerful a punch or a palm thrust but launched from a distance

 

[Made in Heaven]

A scan was just posted where it was shown doing no damage.



Like I said, don't quote me if you have nothing useful to say. Go have your little fangasms elsewhere. Asuma kills Neji and it's not high difficulty.

wow so unbiased so willing to accept when he is wrong u r LITERALLY arguing for a near-featless char against neji who has so many feats in reflexes, speed, and tiajutsu

 

[Made in Heaven]

Google Translate... That's what we're doing now? We're relying on a tool that's utterly shit in deciphering foreign languages? My, oh my.

Viz > Fan translations > Google Translator. Seriously man. Just admit you're wrong.

lol i knew i shouldn't have included that becasue i knew u would leech on to it and ignore everything else. google tranlsate is still reliable with small words and u know that

and even if u want to ignore it, the kanji is the same as body flick not ftg. u can see this by using ur eyes pal.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kisame might be an isolated case. We all know how he has immense chakra prowess and the ability to absorb chakra.
And you have every right to counter argue bec air palms was never really shown to have massive internal damage, albeit descriptions. Display of action and cinematography focuses on its "pressure" factor.

Kisame absorbs chakra w/ Samehada first of all. Second of all durability has nothing to do with internal damage. Gentle Fist's whole point is to bypass a tough body. Yet Air Palm hit him and he wasn't damaged, so the logical conclusion is that it does not share that ability of Gentle fist.

the attack is forceful seeing how it blew Kisame meters away and the DB clearly stated it is focused on the vital spots. Kisame was durable and we have the fact not every vital spot causes a serious damage. but some of them does and some of them can even result in death.

Kisame took no damage. None. Zero. Unaffected in even the slightest way. You can make excuses all you want it doesn't change what is shown. Kisame being somewhat durable isn't an excuse that lets you argue that it does any serious damage to Asuma. Knocking him back a few meters is a feat now? I hope not because I can get physical attacks from people like Naruto and Kakashi that knocked people back that far yet did no significant damage.

What's even worse for your case is that the Kisame that they fought was a clone. ;lol

wow so unbiased so willing to accept when he is wrong u r LITERALLY arguing for a near-featless char against neji who has so many feats in reflexes, speed, and tiajutsu

Neji's feats in reflexes, speed and Taijutsu are from Part 1 against opponents tiers below Asuma's level. If those are the only feats you can bring then two things are obvious:

1. You're an idiot.
2. Neji's feats in Part 2 don't exist and thus he might as well be featless in this discussion.

His feats against PTS Naruto and Kidomaru don't help you here little guy. I'm sorry but it just doesn't work that way.

 

[Exaar]

Google Translate... That's what we're doing now? We're relying on a tool that's utterly shit in deciphering foreign languages? My, oh my.

Viz > Fan translations > Google Translator. Seriously man. Just admit you're wrong.

lady is actually right in this suituation.

Look at the raw scans she linked and the highlighted part., The two letters match the kanji that is for Shunshin no Jutsu
瞬身の術

This is the Hiraishin no Jutsu kanji
飛雷神の術

Which is in no way similar to the raw scan's

Gentle Fist destroys chakra, vital spots are internal, if said chakra actually made contact with a vital spot, its chakra would've been destroyed.

Gentle fist destorys chakra by injecting the users chakra into someone or something.

Unless airpalm injects chakra upon hitting someone, It doesn't destroy chakra like other gentle fist techniques. So no

 

[DrProof]

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I don't understand man. Air Palm clearly doesn't do physical damage, as shown via canon.

Kisame might be an isolated case. We all know how he has immense chakra prowess and the ability to absorb chakra.
And you have every right to counter argue bec air palms was never really shown to have massive internal damage, albeit descriptions. Display of action and cinematography focuses on its "pressure" factor.

the attack is forceful seeing how it blew Kisame meters away and the DB clearly stated it is focused on the vital spots. Kisame was durable and we have the fact not every vital spot causes a serious damage. but some of them does and some of them can even result in death.

Guys listen. Vital spots = pressure points.

A pressure point (Chinese: 穴位; Japanese: kyūsho 急所 "vital point, tender spot"

Pressure points = internal. Hence, why acupuncture, and acupressure are done through the internal affairs.

Air palm is a Gentle Fist technique, and Gentle Fist chakra if inserted = destroys chakra. This did not happen, if it did make contact with Kisame's vitals, the clone would've dispersed, as it did when Gai destroyed it, because that's what Gentle Fist does, it like I keep saying, destroys chakra.

So if neither happened, and Samehada was out of range, unable to absorb the chakra.

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How the hell does Kisame tank an internal damage jutsu? He doesn't. What he tanked was a technique that did no physical harm at all.

 

[DrProof]

lady is actually right in this suituation.

Look at the raw scans she linked and the highlighted part., The two letters match the kanji that is for Shunshin no Jutsu
瞬身の術

This is the Hiraishin no Jutsu kanji
飛雷神の術

Which is in no way similar to the raw scan's



Gentle fist destorys chakra by injecting the users chakra into someone or something.

Unless airpalm injects chakra upon hitting someone, It doesn't destroy chakra like other gentle fist techniques. So no

Viz translations > fanmade translations, you can't argue that bro. They get paid to translate to the letter. That being said, it doesn't refute what happened in the manga, literally Hashirama told Tobirama to teleport them as a whole, and then several chapters later, Tobirama goes on to explain his FTG can sync with others chakra/marks, and that it can be placed on people etc. etc. Literally it all points to FTG usage, not a simple shunshin.

Edit: That being said, how the hell do you shunshin multiple people at once? You can't lol. It was even shown that FTG can teleport multiple people as seen here:

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[Made in Heaven]

Neji's feats in reflexes, speed and Taijutsu are from Part 1 against opponents tiers below Asuma's level. If those are the only feats you can bring then two things are obvious:

lol they r tiers below asuma's level based on what exactly when he has no feats?

1. You're an idiot.

edgy hedgie

2. Neji's feats in Part 2 don't exist and thus he might as well be featless in this discussion.

like asuma?

and lol @ the implication that feats dont count if they are from part 1!!!

and yeah, Neji does have feats in part 2.

His feats against PTS Naruto and Kidomaru don't help you here

asuma feats please. gimme

I'm sorry but it just doesn't work that way.

coming from person who says featles asuma beats a jonin hyuga with advanced eyes and taijutsu.

 

[Exaar]

Kisame took no damage. None. Zero. Unaffected in even the slightest way. You can make excuses all you want it doesn't change what is shown. Kisame being somewhat durable isn't an excuse that lets you argue that it does any serious damage to Asuma. Knocking him back a few meters is a feat now? I hope not because I can get physical attacks from people like Naruto and Kakashi that knocked people back that far yet did no significant damage.

What's even worse for your case is that the Kisame that they fought was a clone. ;lol

It can be argued it was because he was a clone that airpalms affects didn't do much.

Lets say it did hit one of the clones vital spots and did some damage (not enough to outright kill it like Gai/Naruto), How is that going to slow it down when the person who is controlling him cannot feel said pain?

 

[Made in Heaven]

lady is actually right in this suituation.

Look at the raw scans she linked and the highlighted part., The two letters match the kanji that is for Shunshin no Jutsu
瞬身の術

This is the Hiraishin no Jutsu kanji
飛雷神の術

Which is in no way similar to the raw scan's

these people will do anything to act like they r oh so unibiased so 2 make their points seem more valid but then u see them denying stuff like this and it is just laughable. funny thing is how people constantly mock hina for being weak yet when feats are shown they deny them

 

[Exaar]

Viz translations > fanmade translations, you can't argue that bro. They get paid to translate to the letter. That being said, it doesn't refute what happened in the manga, literally Hashirama told Tobirama to teleport them as a whole, and then several chapters later, Tobirama goes on to explain his FTG can sync with others chakra/marks, and that it can be placed on people etc. etc. Literally it all points to FTG usage, not a simple shunshin.

How on earth are Raw scans considered fanmade?.

Even the viz doesn't even prove your point about him implying it was FTG simply because he said teleporting. Shunshin literally translates to Teleportation, So viz saying teleportation doesn't rule out shunshin in the slightest. Even the Kanji in the raw scan points towards shunshin.

Raw scans > Viz > every other form of translation

 

[Made in Heaven]

Viz translations > fanmade translations, you can't argue that bro. They get paid to translate to the letter.

lol no they do not, they do not, they do not. how many times i have read the viz manga and they constantly throw in english idioms and shorten phrases and simplify sentences to get the meaning across properly.

and anyways, stop dancing around the issue, this has nothing to do with it how the words r phrased. that his shushin kanji not ftg

That being said, it doesn't refute what happened in the manga, literally Hashirama told Tobirama to teleport them as a whole, and then several chapters later, Tobirama goes on to explain his FTG can sync with others chakra/marks, and that it can be placed on people etc. etc. Literally it all points to FTG usage, not a simple shunshin.

tobirama said minato arrived by shushin.