Was Sage Mode Naruto enough for Mangekyou Sharingan Sasuke?

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Really? Then how would you describe this?

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That's him blocking enton fired as a projectile from a pre existing flame. Amaterasu is the spawning of those flames directly on the target so it's obviously faster. I thought people would have known the difference by now
 

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Not a plot shield you just can't read.

They don't gather natural energy and that it. They convert it to sage chakra (meaning its pre balanced) then they send it over.

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Of course its a plot shield because the clone either has more chakra or less chakra than Naruto you need balance of all e for it. So it's clearly imbalanced and he shouldn't have sage mode. As fukusaku explains.
 

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Yes, SM Naruto>MS Sasuke
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There is that but Naruto also said he wasn't powerful enough to defeat Sasuke during the time they met after the summit. Even though he defeated Pain which they told him.
 
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That's him blocking enton fired as a projectile from a pre existing flame. Amaterasu is the spawning of those flames directly on the target so it's obviously faster. I thought people would have known the difference by now
Exactly.
 

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People still choose to ignore this:

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That includes the fact that Naruto had failed to take down a near blind Sasuke, who was taxxed out of chakra from fighting the 5 Kage and Danzo.

You guys are too much :lmao:
 

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When Nardo faps think Naruto defeated Pain all by himself :lol

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:lmao:
 

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There was no pre existing flames in VIS sasuke was actually complementing gaara for defending against his amaterasu.

Sasuke specifically said he used Enton, not amaterasu, you can see flames orb above above Sasuke in that scan.

But I wouldn't be surprised if deny it, Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu, Sasuke looks at him and he burns to death.
 

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Sasuke specifically said he used Enton, not amaterasu, you can see flames orb above above Sasuke in that scan.

But I wouldn't be surprised if deny it, Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu, Sasuke looks at him and he dead.

Entou means inferno style just like katon means fire style :lol

The orb that you are talking about was coming out of gaara sands unless you once saw sasuke being able to create fire orbs and make them float in air.

Gaara sands already showed to be fast enough to keep up with amaterasu when previously he intercepted V2 raikage.
 

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Entou means inferno style just like katon means fire style :lol

The orb that you are talking about was coming out of gaara sands unless you once saw sasuke being able to create fire orbs and make them float in air.

Gaara sands already showed to be fast enough to keep up with amaterasu when previously he intercepted V2 raikage.

-_- No the orb was from Sasuke because in another scan you can see the orb floating right above him
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not to mention in this scan you can see the ribcage partially obsucring it a bit if you look very closely
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Plus Sasuke can make enton orbs float as shown with his EMS v4 susanoo
Gaara's and intercepted v2 ay not using shushin unlike when he dodged Amaterasu.
 

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Entou means inferno style just like katon means fire style :lol

The orb that you are talking about was coming out of gaara sands unless you once saw sasuke being able to create fire orbs and make them float in air.

Gaara sands already showed to be fast enough to keep up with amaterasu when previously he intercepted V2 raikage.

Still on same BS again.

There's an enton orb above Sasuke inside his ribcage Susanoo, no enton is not amaterasu, Itachi doesn't have enton, he can only spawn black flames on what his eye is focused on.

Sasuke said it's enton, everything points towards it being enton, and Sasuke said he guarded, means he countered Gaara's sand with enton not the other around.

Unless Naruto can move as fast as V2 in his bijuu level shunshin, which he can't, Sasuke's amaterasu burns him.

I swear these faps are actually claiming that Naruto is able to replicate a feat that V2 Ay needed to charge up for without a single feat to even compare Naruto's movment speed to Ay's.

Edit: I got ninja'd by Tantalus Thief.:lol
 
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he can sense it but the problem is the speed needed to dodge it. So unless you can prove Naruto has speed on the level of V2 Raikage, he isn't dodging it. Listing a whole bunch of people who survived amaterasu is pointless since Naruto doesn't have the same luxuries they had. Don't get how Naruto dodging the 3rd raikage means he can escape amaterasu, when 3rd raikage is much slower than his son in v2 form.

No proof that 3rd Raikage is slower than 4th Raikage. 4th Raikage said 3rd is stronger, which implies it's likely he is faster.
 

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No proof that 3rd Raikage is slower than 4th Raikage. 4th Raikage said 3rd is stronger, which implies it's likely he is faster.

4th has V2, and has the feat of blitzing MS Sasuke, 3rd hasn't shown speed feats that makes move faster than mangekyo user can track.

At best, he's as fast as V1 Ay.
 

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4th has V2, and has the feat of blitzing MS Sasuke, 3rd hasn't shown speed feats that makes move faster than mangekyo user can track.

At best, he's as fast as V1 Ay.

"V2" is just a term the 4th uses to distinguish between him using lightning mode at base power, or full power. It's not something else entirely like some super saiyan crap. Raikage never blitzed Sasuke, he only blitzed an Amaterasu. Sasuke was able to react easily to his speed when they clashed and was seen ducking under his arm to strike with chidori. 3rd was able to dodge a FTR in an instant right before it hit him like it was nothing, and you think that's not a feat? There's nothing that proves the 3rd wouldn't have blitzed the Amaterasu just as easily, in fact I'd think it would be obvious considering he was said to be superior by the 4th himself that he's be able to dodge the same attack with the same lightning armor. Why would he be slower when he is said to be more powerful and he also has the same speed boosting jutsu? That assumption makes no sense at all.
 

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"V2" is just a term the 4th uses to distinguish between him using lightning mode at base power, or full power. It's not something else entirely like some super saiyan crap. Raikage never blitzed Sasuke, he only blitzed an Amaterasu. Sasuke was able to react easily to his speed when they clashed and was seen ducking under his arm to strike with chidori. 3rd was able to dodge a FTR in an instant right before it hit him like it was nothing, and you think that's not a feat? There's nothing that proves the 3rd wouldn't have blitzed the Amaterasu just as easily, in fact I'd think it would be obvious considering he was said to be superior by the 4th himself that he's be able to dodge the same attack with the same lightning armor. Why would he be slower when he is said to be more powerful and he also has the same speed boosting jutsu? That assumption makes no sense at all.

That's not an assumption, it's the truth based on feats.

3rd Raikage was said to be stronger and more durable, nothing about movment speed.

Sasuke managed to react to Raikage in V1, when Ay used his V2 shunshin he was able to move faster than Sasuke's MS can track, people like temari had no trouble tracking the 3rds movment, let alone an MS user.

If anything, he's shown better reaction speed, nothing implies he has the same movement speed as his son at V2 who even an MS user can't track.

Sharing a jutsu doesn't mean equality, by that logic Lee and Gai should be equal at 6 gates, which is not true as gai has shown feats that far surpasses anything lee had shown.
 
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That's not an assumption, it's the truth based on feats.

3rd Raikage was said to be stronger and more durable, nothing about movment speed.

Sasuke managed to react to Raikage in V1, when Ay used his V2 shunshin he was able to move faster than Sasuke's MS can track, people like temari had no trouble tracking the 3rds movment, let alone an MS user.

If anything, he's shown better reaction speed, nothing implies he has the same movement speed as his son at V2 who even an MS user can't track.

Sharing a jutsu doesn't mean equality, by that logic Lee and Gai should be equal at 6 gates, which is not true as gai has shown feats that far surpasses anything lee had shown.

The 3rd Raikage was said to be the most powerful Raikage of all time. Both Raikage's use the same identical lightning release armor jutsu, and you have zero proof that the 3rd Raikage never reached V2 levels of speed. V2 is not an technique, it's just semantics. It isn't even mentioned in the Databook. Both Raikage's have shown extremely high feats of speed, and it was never said or even implied that the 4th was faster. You're only argument is that he was known best for his durability, and that's not proof that he was slower at all. You mistakenly claim the 4th has to be faster since he blitzed Sasuke and Amaterasu, when there is no evidence showing that the 3rd wouldn't have done the same. There is no way of knowing which of them was faster. This is fanfic, you have nothing.
 

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-_- No the orb was from Sasuke because in another scan you can see the orb floating right above him
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not to mention in this scan you can see the ribcage partially obsucring it a bit if you look very closely
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Plus Sasuke can make enton orbs float as shown with his EMS v4 susanoo
Gaara's and intercepted v2 ay not using shushin unlike when he dodged Amaterasu.
How do you know that he wans't using shunshin?

Still on same BS again.

There's an enton orb above Sasuke inside his ribcage Susanoo, no enton is not amaterasu, Itachi doesn't have enton, he can only spawn black flames on what his eye is focused on.

Sasuke said it's enton, everything points towards it being enton, and Sasuke said he guarded, means he countered Gaara's sand with enton not the other around.

Unless Naruto can move as fast as V2 in his bijuu level shunshin, which he can't, Sasuke's amaterasu burns him.

I swear these faps are actually claiming that Naruto is able to replicate a feat that V2 Ay needed to charge up for without a single feat to even compare Naruto's movment speed to Ay's.

Edit: I got ninja'd by Tantalus Thief.:lol
Well then...since you cant accept that naruto can dodge amaterasu then he will just have to defend agains't it.

Witch is by using the shadow clone jutsu:lmao:

The guy can simply sense and react to it by using them as meat shield as many times as he wants while trying to get close to sasuke or at least until sasuke goes blind:lol he can also try to attack him from multiple directions with his oodama rasengan barrage ( witch can destroy his susanoo by the way).

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still GG.
 

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How do you know that he wans't using shunshin?


Well then...since you cant accept that naruto can dodge amaterasu then he will just have to defend agains't it.

Witch is by using the shadow clone jutsu:lmao:

The guy can simply sense and react to it by using them as meat shield as many times as he wants while trying to get close to sasuke or at least until sasuke goes blind:lol he can also try to attack him from multiple directions with his oodama rasengan barrage ( witch can destroy his susanoo by the way).

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still GG.

Blocking a bijuu sized amaterasu with kagebunshin...:lol

A justu that was tanked by ribcage can break susanoo...:lol

I'm done.
 
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Blocking a bijuu sized amaterasu with kagebunshin...:lol

A justu that was tanked by ribcage can break susanoo...:lol

I'm done.

You do realize that sage naruto can make over 2 thousands of clones right?And has only showed to use that level o amaterasu once so once he uses it he will rely on small ones only.

Also susanoo ribcage susanoo ain't sh!t as proved time and time again.

GG.
 
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