[Discussion] Was Ace intruduced too early?

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Are you sure?

Wait, but didn't Rayleigh see WB die who died after Ace did?
yea im sure...he didn say "i'm going to train u b'cuz ace died" ..he asked luffy what is he going to even if he goes back to sabondy..suffer the same fate? as in get beaten by the likes of pacifistas...and then he put forward his suggestion.
AGAIN has nothing to do with ace's dead..or even WB's for that matter
 

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yea im sure...he didn say "i'm going to train u b'cuz ace died" ..he asked luffy what is he going to even if he goes back to sabondy..suffer the same fate? as in get beaten by the likes of pacifistas...and then he put forward his suggestion.
AGAIN has nothing to do with ace's dead..or even WB's for that matter
You're boring me now.
I was gonna provide an argument.

I'll let it go.

Ace's death is related to the timeskip/training.
I never said anything about it being the main reason.
It's related, you haven't helped dissuade my opinion.
 

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You're boring me now.
I was gonna provide an argument.

I'll let it go.

Ace's death is related to the timeskip/training.
I never said anything about it being the main reason.
It's related, you haven't helped dissuade my opinion.
u bored me long time ago..i was responding since i was the host of the thread

very well

that is opinion, and if ur opinion is baseless to begin with i guess there is no helping it.
good day to u
 

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yea im sure...he didn say "i'm going to train u b'cuz ace died" ..he asked luffy what is he going to even if he goes back to sabondy..suffer the same fate? as in get beaten by the likes of pacifistas...and then he put forward his suggestion.
AGAIN has nothing to do with ace's dead..or even WB's for that matter
Luffy would have stayed in Amazon Lily for couple of days and then sailed back to Sabaody. Everyone else would do the same thing and in the end no one would get any training.

It was only after he got completely stomped in both Impel Down and Marinford he realised he is weak and helpless. He couldn't safe his nakama, he couldn't safe Ace, he wasn't powerful enough to be the Pirate King. That's the things he realised and that's why he choosed to train with Rayleigh for two years. This is why Oda wrote War of the Best and why he killed of Ace. It had to be done.
 

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if your mad about spoilers never read anything about one piece on naruto base it is always about current op and if your not current dont read them i dont i am still at the enel part and i know nothing about what will happen well almost nothing
 

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OK, say Ace wasn't introduced to as during in Alabasta and the story continued as it did (except the Ace part) and instead they meat in the New World after the war and 2yr training. and in the war Ace was saved and WB died. Ace acknowledges Luffy's strength and joins the SH's since WB is dead. I think oda didn't realise how popular Ace would get, what do you guys think?
Ace was introduced at a good time... His destiny was to die in the war and we must accept it. U_U
And even if Ace was still alive (which I really wish he was) I doubt he would join the Strawhats he would more likely become captain of the Whitebeard Pirates cause IMO Marco wouldnt be as good of a captain as Ace
 

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Luffy would have stayed in Amazon Lily for couple of days and then sailed back to Sabaody. Everyone else would do the same thing and in the end no one would get any training.

It was only after he got completely stomped in both Impel Down and Marinford he realised he is weak and helpless. He couldn't safe his nakama, he couldn't safe Ace, he wasn't powerful enough to be the Pirate King. That's the things he realised and that's why he choosed to train with Rayleigh for two years. This is why Oda wrote War of the Best and why he killed of Ace. It had to be done.
stop with the useless comment..go back and read previous ones

im totally over the Ace thing now:(
Luffy will avenge him anyway
cant wait for magma brat to get his ass kicked
Ace was introduced at a good time... His destiny was to die in the war and we must accept it. U_U
And even if Ace was still alive (which I really wish he was) I doubt he would join the Strawhats he would more likely become captain of the Whitebeard Pirates cause IMO Marco wouldnt be as good of a captain as Ace
first point was discussed already
on the 2nd point, thats a valid point..we don't know the status of WB pirates..whether dey exist or not after WB's death. they could still be there or they could have disbanded. dont forget their pirate flag was burnt and moby d**k was destroyed
 
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stop with the useless comment..go back and read previous ones


cant wait for magma brat to get his ass kicked

first point was discussed already
on the 2nd point, thats a valid point..we don't know the status of WB pirates..whether dey exist or not after WB's death. they could still be there or they could have disbanded. dont forget their pirate flag was burnt and moby d**k was destroyed
To be honest please stop commenting. Love Cook and Hyperion are awesome OP fans and I will almost never argue with theyre very valid points. And I read the thread and you were being ignorant of theyre points while repeating yourself. With a fanboy level of ignorancy for a point that you have failed to make. Which is why I will say this once stfu

Im outta here have a good day ^^
 

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To be honest please stop commenting. Love Cook and Hyperion are awesome OP fans and I will almost never argue with theyre very valid points. And I read the thread and you were being ignorant of theyre points while repeating yourself. With a fanboy level of ignorancy for a point that you have failed to make. Which is why I will say this once stfu

Im outta here have a good day ^^
they made valid points? ace was the reason rayleigh suggested SH's take 2yrs to train? don't make me laugh..go kiss their ass elsewhere
 

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they made valid points? ace was the reason rayleigh suggested SH's take 2yrs to train? don't make me laugh..go kiss their ass elsewhere
No, he was the reason Luffy accepted Rayleigh's proposal and Straw Hats could get 2 years of training.

Whatever, you can live in your little fantasies with Ace, I am not going to bother with this thread anymore.
 

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No, he was the reason Luffy accepted Rayleigh's proposal and Straw Hats could get 2 years of training.

Whatever, you can live in your little fantasies with Ace, I am not going to bother with this thread anymore.
again..thats a baseless statement...same could be said bt uz,
no1 asked u to in the first place
 

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I know it's not like he even died for a reason he just died because thats what happened.

like Jman died for a reason, Hiruzen died for a reason even whitebeard died for a reason its a waste of an aswesome char imo​
 

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they made valid points? ace was the reason rayleigh suggested SH's take 2yrs to train? don't make me laugh..go kiss their ass elsewhere
:rofl:
I cant believe you can be so ignorant... Luffy knew he wasnt strong but still was head strong because he knew he would see his crew again and that they were alive like him and he would see them in Sabody again. But losing Ace flicked his trigger he then realized in the NW there would be plenty of people capable of killing his Nakama. After losing Ace he realized being so head strong without enough strength to back it up would be useless. Thats why he lost it on Maiden Island with Jinbei cause he thought he would lose everyone. So he decided to get stronger and train. Rayleigh wouldnt have suggested it anyways because he wouldnt able to train all of the SH if they came back to Sabody at the same time. So why dont you take your baseless statment and shove it up your crack. Oda wrote what he did for a reason stop trying to change that. If you dont like what Oda did then dont read OP
 
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