umm maybe b'cuz its rayleigh's idea?..has nothing to do with aceLol of the day
Still doesn't explain how Ace's death is not related to the training.
umm maybe b'cuz its rayleigh's idea?..has nothing to do with aceLol of the day
Still doesn't explain how Ace's death is not related to the training.
Are you sure?umm maybe b'cuz its rayleigh's idea?..has nothing to do with ace
yea im sure...he didn say "i'm going to train u b'cuz ace died" ..he asked luffy what is he going to even if he goes back to sabondy..suffer the same fate? as in get beaten by the likes of pacifistas...and then he put forward his suggestion.Are you sure?
Wait, but didn't Rayleigh see WB die who died after Ace did?
You're boring me now.yea im sure...he didn say "i'm going to train u b'cuz ace died" ..he asked luffy what is he going to even if he goes back to sabondy..suffer the same fate? as in get beaten by the likes of pacifistas...and then he put forward his suggestion.
AGAIN has nothing to do with ace's dead..or even WB's for that matter
u bored me long time ago..i was responding since i was the host of the threadYou're boring me now.
I was gonna provide an argument.
I'll let it go.
Ace's death is related to the timeskip/training.
I never said anything about it being the main reason.
It's related, you haven't helped dissuade my opinion.
Not finished yet.u bored me long time ago..i was responding since i was the host of the thread
very well
that is opinion, and if ur opinion is baseless to begin with i guess there is no helping it.
good day to u
ur still here?Not finished yet.
Your counters were shitful.
Goodluck.
Luffy would have stayed in Amazon Lily for couple of days and then sailed back to Sabaody. Everyone else would do the same thing and in the end no one would get any training.yea im sure...he didn say "i'm going to train u b'cuz ace died" ..he asked luffy what is he going to even if he goes back to sabondy..suffer the same fate? as in get beaten by the likes of pacifistas...and then he put forward his suggestion.
AGAIN has nothing to do with ace's dead..or even WB's for that matter
Ace was introduced at a good time... His destiny was to die in the war and we must accept it. U_UOK, say Ace wasn't introduced to as during in Alabasta and the story continued as it did (except the Ace part) and instead they meat in the New World after the war and 2yr training. and in the war Ace was saved and WB died. Ace acknowledges Luffy's strength and joins the SH's since WB is dead. I think oda didn't realise how popular Ace would get, what do you guys think?
stop with the useless comment..go back and read previous onesLuffy would have stayed in Amazon Lily for couple of days and then sailed back to Sabaody. Everyone else would do the same thing and in the end no one would get any training.
It was only after he got completely stomped in both Impel Down and Marinford he realised he is weak and helpless. He couldn't safe his nakama, he couldn't safe Ace, he wasn't powerful enough to be the Pirate King. That's the things he realised and that's why he choosed to train with Rayleigh for two years. This is why Oda wrote War of the Best and why he killed of Ace. It had to be done.
cant wait for magma brat to get his ass kickedim totally over the Ace thing now
Luffy will avenge him anyway
first point was discussed alreadyAce was introduced at a good time... His destiny was to die in the war and we must accept it. U_U
And even if Ace was still alive (which I really wish he was) I doubt he would join the Strawhats he would more likely become captain of the Whitebeard Pirates cause IMO Marco wouldnt be as good of a captain as Ace
To be honest please stop commenting. Love Cook and Hyperion are awesome OP fans and I will almost never argue with theyre very valid points. And I read the thread and you were being ignorant of theyre points while repeating yourself. With a fanboy level of ignorancy for a point that you have failed to make. Which is why I will say this once stfustop with the useless comment..go back and read previous ones
cant wait for magma brat to get his ass kicked
first point was discussed already
on the 2nd point, thats a valid point..we don't know the status of WB pirates..whether dey exist or not after WB's death. they could still be there or they could have disbanded. dont forget their pirate flag was burnt and moby d**k was destroyed
they made valid points? ace was the reason rayleigh suggested SH's take 2yrs to train? don't make me laugh..go kiss their ass elsewhereTo be honest please stop commenting. Love Cook and Hyperion are awesome OP fans and I will almost never argue with theyre very valid points. And I read the thread and you were being ignorant of theyre points while repeating yourself. With a fanboy level of ignorancy for a point that you have failed to make. Which is why I will say this once stfu
Im outta here have a good day ^^
No, he was the reason Luffy accepted Rayleigh's proposal and Straw Hats could get 2 years of training.they made valid points? ace was the reason rayleigh suggested SH's take 2yrs to train? don't make me laugh..go kiss their ass elsewhere
again..thats a baseless statement...same could be said bt uz,No, he was the reason Luffy accepted Rayleigh's proposal and Straw Hats could get 2 years of training.
Whatever, you can live in your little fantasies with Ace, I am not going to bother with this thread anymore.
:rofl:they made valid points? ace was the reason rayleigh suggested SH's take 2yrs to train? don't make me laugh..go kiss their ass elsewhere