Jirobo is fodder compared to Sasuke. He can't counter genjutsu raition shits on his Doton. He'll be easily able to dodge the earth dome so yea Jirobo is pretty much a non-factor here.
Jirobo is fodder compared to Sasuke. He can't counter genjutsu raition shits on his Doton. He'll be easily able to dodge the earth dome so yea Jirobo is pretty much a non-factor here.
Kaiten would deflect and reflect his chidori back at him , likely turning the force of his Chidori back at him and likely blow off his arm when he makes contact with the reflecting dome, Kaiten>Chidori especially Base chidori Lol.
Kaiten would deflect and reflect his chidori back at him which would turn the force of his Chidori back at him and likely blow off his arm , Kaiten>Chidori especially Base chidori Lol.
What is part 1 neji best rotation feat? blocking kunai? lol. No Chidori would rip through his rotation a charged from Naruto even though interrupted it blew his rotation out or stalemate it. Chidori cannot be repel as it is nothing but lighting on Sasuke's hand as long as he pushing forward it goes. Or he could just outlast rotation with a katon.
What is part 1 neji best rotation feat? blocking kunai? lol. No Chidori would rip through his rotation a charged from Naruto even though interrupted it blew his rotation out or stalemate it. Chidori cannot be repel as it is nothing but lighting on Sasuke's hand as long as he pushing forward it goes. Or he could just outlast rotation with a katon.
Nope chidori would get blocked and reflected since its still chakra focused in the palms which will get deflected by the spinning force which is simple logic , and it will get reflected by Kaiten's perk of reflecting Chakra which is wat chidori is made of and even if Chidori manages to cause a explosion then Sasuke would likely lose his arm since thats where the explosion would be focused but it wont get to that point since Kaiten would simply deflect and reflect the Chakra jab.
Nope chidori would get blocked and reflected since its still chakra focused in the palms which will get deflected by the spinning force which is simple logic , and it will get reflected by Kaiten's perk of reflecting Chakra which is wat chidori is made of.
The perk of reflecting chakra lol it has never repelled anything just because it was chakra stop with the bs. Rotation repellent ability has only been used on projectiles that had no moving force behind them unless it throws Sasuke back it's not working period. VOTE Sasuke chidori matched Rasengan which is a hell of alot stronger than rotation and worst case scenario the stalemate to blow each other back. How All Sasuke has to do is get in range a toast him with katon
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in this was beginning of the series.
This thread low key was a set up Sasuke needs 25 minutes to use 3 tomoe? Most fights in narutoverse don't last that long in real time.
So i say he's does not solo but the still win handily.
The perk of reflecting chakra lol it has never repelled anything just because it was chakra stop with the bs. Rotation repellent ability has only been used on projectiles that had no moving force behind them unless it throws Sasuke back it's not working period. VOTE Sasuke chidori matched Rasengan which is a hell of alot stronger than rotation and worst case scenario the stalemate to blow each other back. How All Sasuke has to do is get in range a toast him with katon
Kaiten deflects using spinning force meaning Sasuke's arm would change direction and turn aside from its straight course since he's gonna be running straight into Kaiten at a high speed without a defense like Naruto had and the clash wont even result in a explosion since Sasuke isn't fast enough to stop Kaiten's completion hence Sasuke will be hit with its full deflective and reflective capabilities and only has a base chidori.
Chakra reflection is a perk or function attributed to Kaiten in the same way chakra destuction is attributed to Jyuken , Rasengan has no such properties and ur comparison would only be applicable if Kaiten didn't have the ability to reflect chakra and only relied on its spinning force for defection which isn't the case since reflection of Chakra "specifically" , was noted as a function of the jutsu.
-Worse case scenario is Sasuke gets his arm torn off or critically injured by his own chidori getting reflected when he Jabs Kaiten , and Neji can easily evade Katon after seeing the build-up and/or block it with Chakra cocoon no diff followed by shunshin + jyuken.
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-Heck Neji doesn't even need to use Kaiten as a defense against Chidori since his reaction , precision and reflex should allow him the capability to react to Sasuke's chidori speed well enough to tag him since CE Prelims Neji is able to react to the 5G Lee well enough for lee to need the use of Ura Renge in order to become untouchable due to speed so he'll never be at risk of getting tagged.
SRA Neji is much superior to CE Neji so i see no reason why he wouldn't be able to react to Sasuke running towards him at around Lee's base level of speed which CE Neji could already comfortably handle and Neji's fighting style is all about waiting until the very last instant to counter , when the enemy has already launched their attack while Neji simultaneously employs his own counter maneuver at the same time and not before.
Chidori isn't really a unpredictable move and if VOTE 2T Sasuke was unable to get around base Naruto's reaction/reflex well enough to avoid clashing with Rasengan without using CS1 and katon as diversions , I dont see how he's gonna overcome Neji's mental and physical agility + swift jyuken jabs.
Having jirobo as support is useful , he can easily erect earth walls to hinder a advancing Sasuke gunning at them with Chidori in hand and he can hinder any katon attempts followed by Neji promptly dealing with Sasuke.
Kaiten might be able to deflect a regular Chidori (Black Chidori pierces it, maybe even CM1 enhanced Sasuke's Chidori), but saying "it deflects chakra so it deflects Chidori" and "it deflects attacks so it deflects Chidori" doesn't make sense. Would you or anyone else argue that it deflects higher tiered attacks because it can deflect attacks and chakra? I hope not.
And Kaiten deflecting chakra isn't anything like Gentle Fist destroying chakra. If it was then the chakra surrounding Naruto when he clashed with Neji would've been knocked away and Neji would've suffered no damage. It simply has the ability to knock away chakra as well as physical attacks. Which doesn't help or demerit any arguments made on the topic.
Kaiten might be able to deflect a regular Chidori (Black Chidori pierces it, maybe even CM1 enhanced Sasuke's Chidori), but saying "it deflects chakra so it deflects Chidori" and "it deflects attacks so it deflects Chidori" doesn't make sense. Would you or anyone else argue that it deflects higher tiered attacks because it can deflect attacks and chakra? I hope not.
I agreed with that notion from the start and never contested it nor did i try to imply the Bold but more so to simply note a function attributed to Kaiten along with its basics, Power among other things is taken into account when trying to gauge the results of a clash which is why i only contested the notion of regular Chidori Vs Kaiten as it isn't boosted by senjutsu or anything making the attack much more potent than normal.
And Kaiten deflecting chakra isn't anything like Gentle Fist destroying chakra. If it was then the chakra surrounding Naruto when he clashed with Neji would've been knocked away and Neji would've suffered no damage. It simply has the ability to knock away chakra as well as physical attacks. Which doesn't help or demerit any arguments made on the topic.
I simply meant that just like Jyuken chakra has the ability destroy chakra beside its other basic use , Kaiten has the ability to block and reflect chakra beside its basic deflective attributes , it doesn't inject jyuken chkara but instead revolves the Jyuken Chakra at great speeds with its deflective being largely dependent on the speed of the users spin.
Naruto's chakra was indeed knocked away when they clashed , with Neji suffering damage due to his kaiten being incomplete , like a fan getting interrupted before it could complete a full rotation which would result in a similar mishap if the opposing force is carrying enough force/power behind it to actually stand up to the fan's speed and the force it carries when making its initial start-up spin which would likewise be the fan at its weakest/slowest.
I agreed with that notion from the start and never contested it nor did i try to imply the Bold but more so to simply note a function attributed to Kaiten along with its basics, Power among other things is taken into account when trying to gauge the results of a clash which is why i only contested the notion of regular Chidori Vs Kaiten as it isn't boosted by senjutsu or anything making the attack much more potent than normal.
I simply meant that just like Jyuken chakra has the ability destroy chakra beside its other basic use , Kaiten has the ability to block and reflect chakra beside its basic deflective attributes , it doesn't inject jyuken chkara but instead revolves the Jyuken Chakra at great speeds with its deflective being largely dependent on the speed of the users spin.
Naruto's chakra was indeed knocked away when they clashed , with Neji suffering damage due to his kaiten being incomplete , like a fan getting interrupted before it could complete a full rotation which would result in a similar mishap if the opposing force is carrying enough force/power behind it to actually stand up to the fan's speed and the force it carries when making its initial start-up spin which would likewise be the fan at its weakest/slowest.
But that's just because of how the jutsu works. Not because of any special perk.
Meaning that it knocks away chakra because of it's defensive power and the fact that it's a defense of chakra. There is no special perk akin to Gentle Fist's perk of destroying chakra. Otherwise Neji's Kaiten being incomplete wouldn't matter. So basically the question here is if Rotation has the defensive power to block Chidori. Nothing more.
But that's just because of how the jutsu works. Not because of any special perk.
Meaning that it knocks away chakra because of it's defensive power and the fact that it's a defense of chakra. There is no special perk akin to Gentle Fist's perk of destroying chakra. Otherwise Neji's Kaiten being incomplete wouldn't matter. So basically the question here is if Rotation has the defensive power to block Chidori. Nothing more.
But it being incomplete does and did matter tho , simply because without enough time to complete a full spin or build up spinning speed the tech wouldn't be at a steady/stable level defensively since not being able to spin fast enough allows the tech to be breached and would affect its reflective and deflective ability substantially since the spin was interrupted before completion by a wide and forceful/powerful attack , which leads into why Neji sustained damage while still repelling away all of Naruto's external Chakra.
Imperfect Kaiten didn't have the stability or power to hold its ground and repel Naruto's Kyubi Chakra charge without being compromised by Kaiten's late start , but the chakra surrounding Naruto when he clashed with Neji did in fact get knocked away/reflected by Imperfect Kaiten , tho not well enough for all the force to be sent back towards Naruto solely.
-The perk isn't akin to Jyuken Destroying Chakra since the Chakra isn't being inserted but rather revolved which is why Kaiten failed in destroying Kidomaru's Chakra webs , but Jyuken Chakra has a specific effect on raw chakra and Kaiten's ability to Knock away/Repel Chakra was noted as a specific perk to the Technique after the technique was already explained and based on Jyuken's effect on raw chakra it makes sense that a spinning defense of Jyuken Chakra would affect raw Chakra in its own way which in this case is to repel the raw Chakra backwards in a different way than it would a normal attack.
