Vivi Will Eventually Join the StrawHats

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So, if I get this right, they would make her their nakama (crewmate, not friend in this case) after they have already conquered the Grand Line? Hmm, that seems like a nice idea.
idk when or where they will meet and im not goin to pretend like i know. but Vivi is headed to the Reverie that is ontop of fishmen island so theres a great chance they will meet there.

anyways wether they meet at reverie or after they conquer grand line, they will meet again agreed? what do you think? will she join or not?

Yeah I'd like to see what you're capable of because I already told you in your previous thread my answer.

You're wasting your own time. I have plenty of it.

I'm not trying to prove anything. She isn't going to join as a Crew member.
She'll become an ally.
ok.....

Here is my theory. Agree with me or I'll flame you.
lol... ok.. what is your theory exactly?

What will be her position anyway in the ship? There are big roles for everybody in the Straw Hat Pirates and they all have dreams except maybe jimbei but we don't know that yet. Vivi's job is to protect her kingdom. What good will it be to her country if she is out fighting for her life, anyway?

I agree with Love Cook. She will be a nakama but not a crew-member. Let's just leave it at that.
yes there are big roles for everbody on the ship but many of them, their roles were revealed after they joined. idk what her role would be, or what her dream would be but it could be revealed afterwards.

Vivi was out for years as a BW agent so your arguement is invalid.

nakama means crew memeber as well.
 

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I love how you ignored my post and the points I made. Pretty much proves you're just trolling here.. or maybe you're simply slow in the head?

You think that was a promise but that's only your own opinion and your interpretation of her words. Jinbe said he will join later, that's a clear, unqestionable promise. What you have with Vivi is something that anyone can interpret in his own way but I already proved she won't join their crew because she made her "undying decision" when she had to decide whether she becomes a pirate or a queen of her country.
 
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@NvG
You interpret that conversation to mean crewmate. She doesn't outwardly say it. She says, "will you take me as a friend."

Edit: The last page of that chapter has a flashback to the mark being a sign of their friendship. Nothing about her joining the crew there either.
 
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You interpret that conversation to mean crewmate. She doesn't outwardly say it. She says, "will you take me as a friend."
the word "friend" has been used in the first 200 something chapters and than was replaced for nakama. its translated as friend but it could have been synommous with crew mate our better yet nakama which means friends/family/crew mate etc.

but either or she does say "will you take me". Vivi is already friends with the SH because of what they went through in alabasta and drum empire.

also i forgot to repost what i said to someone else earlier sorry it slipped my mind

yes she is their friend like Boa and like Coby who is also a rival and Mr 2 Bon Clay, but Boa, Coby, and Bon Clay were not asked to join the SH. thats the difference. Vivi was asked, declined but asked to join in the future when they met again. If Vivi and SH meet again what is holding her back to keeping her promise of joining them? would the SH deny her?

and nakama means companion, friend, family and/or crew member. the english translation is friend but it was like that for the first few 200 chapters and it was replaced with the word nakama.


and more importantly this part:

i think you fail to interpret what was said.

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Luffy and SH invites Vivi to join them but she declines. why? to help rebuild her country that was destroyed during the civil war, plus she loves her country as stated. but when we continue reading...

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we can clearly interpret this page that she fully intends on joing the SH the next time they meet. the next time they meet the country would have had enough time to recover, there has been alot of time since shes been off screen plus the 2 year skip. the country should be running smoothly by now. so with the country running smoothly whats to stop her from keeping her promise of joining the next time she meets the SH?

I don't think she will do anything for them
that can be proven wrong later on.
 
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idk when or where they will meet and im not goin to pretend like i know. but Vivi is headed to the Reverie that is ontop of fishmen island so theres a great chance they will meet there.

anyways wether they meet at reverie or after they conquer grand line, they will meet again agreed? what do you think? will she join or not?
Hmm, I don't quite know to be honest. I just don't see vivi in the bigger picture for some reason. I prefer the Bonney and Jinbei (well, Jinbei being somewhat confirmed already) joining theories over Vivi, as I think it makes more sense (simply due to powerlevels and such) for them to join.
 

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Isn't vivi a bit too weak though..... She might end up getting killed if she joins the crew. The others can only save her so many times you know..... unless she get a devil's fruit or ends up mastering haki that is. I just don't see her joining though. The Straw Hats are on a whole different level compared to when they were in alabasta, not to mention more nakamas. Vivi is a princess, she was only on the ship because they promised to help stop crocodile.
 

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she asks "will you take me as your friend (nakama)?" Luffy and others are the ones who decided to take her in in the first place. What would make them feel any different in the future? if they still decided to take her in, she would surely join since she asks if the invitation would still be open in the future. she asks "will you take me as your friend" because she intends to join in the future.

its only foreshadowing the future events
"Will you take me as your friend" doesn't mean either of these things:

>I promise to join you after I'm done with Alabasta
>Will you promise to let me join if we meet again

There's no promise in the statement. It just leaves a feeling of future interaction, but there is a certain finality in the statement that closes all arguments about Vivi joining.

Either way, I will parrot what the others have said. You've been putting up the same points over and over for a time now. So it's either time to hang up the "Vivi for SH crewmember" for now or just ... take a break.
 

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why would she join? she has a country to run, and no skills as a pirate. in a fight, she'd be killed in a second, or worse, have a superior but not that good opponent screw around until she miraculously pulls out a win, like was happening with nami for a while.

and coby and laboon are also luffy's nakama, but they're not going to join. nakama means friends, not crewmates.
 
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why would she join? she has a country to run, and no skills as a pirate. in a fight, she'd be killed in a second, or worse, have a superior but not that good opponent screw around until she miraculously pulls out a win, like was happening with nami for a while.

and coby and laboon are also luffy's nakama, but they're not going to join. nakama means friends, not crewmates.
agreed with everything, i don't know why the thread starter want vivi to join LOL
 

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Hmm, I don't quite know to be honest. I just don't see vivi in the bigger picture for some reason. I prefer the Bonney and Jinbei (well, Jinbei being somewhat confirmed already) joining theories over Vivi, as I think it makes more sense (simply due to powerlevels and such) for them to join.
Bonney is captain of her own crew. Jinbi is not confirmed yet but its a high possibility. but what makes Jinbis chances greater than Vivi when they made the same promise?

its cuz Jinbi is hella strong isnt it? well if Vivi was as strong as Nami would she be more likely to join?

Isn't vivi a bit too weak though..... She might end up getting killed if she joins the crew. The others can only save her so many times you know..... unless she get a devil's fruit or ends up mastering haki that is. I just don't see her joining though. The Straw Hats are on a whole different level compared to when they were in alabasta, not to mention more nakamas. Vivi is a princess, she was only on the ship because they promised to help stop crocodile.
if her fighting skills became just as strong as Nami, hypothetically, would you see her joining than? If her dad told her that he would run the kingodm or have Kohza run the kingdom would it make it easier for her to go?

"Will you take me as your friend" doesn't mean either of these things:

>I promise to join you after I'm done with Alabasta
>Will you promise to let me join if we meet again

There's no promise in the statement. It just leaves a feeling of future interaction, but there is a certain finality in the statement that closes all arguments about Vivi joining.

Either way, I will parrot what the others have said. You've been putting up the same points over and over for a time now. So it's either time to hang up the "Vivi for SH crewmember" for now or just ... take a break.
yes it does because of the context it is being said in. the SH asked her to join, she declines but than asks for a reinvitation the next time they meet. this implies she intends to join the next time.

ive been putting up the same points because nobody has refuted them... you at least out of everyone here addressed what i was getting at and i do thank you for that.

why would she join? she has a country to run, and no skills as a pirate. in a fight, she'd be killed in a second, or worse, have a superior but not that good opponent screw around until she miraculously pulls out a win, like was happening with nami for a while.

and coby and laboon are also luffy's nakama, but they're not going to join. nakama means friends, not crewmates.
you chose the perfect name for yourself...

theres other people who can run her country in her absence. besides she has left her country before. she was in the top 12 best BW agents. shes an assaisin. her skills could have greatly increase over time. coby and laboon werent asked to join the SH, vivi was.

 

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theres other people who can run her country in her absence. besides she has left her country before. she was in the top 12 best BW agents. shes an assaisin. her skills could have greatly increase over time. coby and laboon werent asked to join the SH, vivi was.

Well from the decks of the world covers it's safe to say that Vivi isn't training as an assassin. Besides #12 of the BW agents isn't impressive at all. They're heading for the new world.

She has been shown having a good time in Alabasta and instead of looking like a assasin she looks like a princess. Besides she is destined to take over her father's throne who is already sick. My predisctions for Cobra are that he will kick the bucket somewhere around the reverie. Pell and the egyptian dog guy were already being meassured for new clothes for the reverie so it's probably around the corner. I think when the time is there we will see more of Vivi and we can end all the speculation. As much as I would've like her to join, I don't think it's possible to let a (former) princess sail with you.

Oh and I don't think we will see the SH's at the reverie, but there will be some kind of event.
 

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Bonney is captain of her own crew. Jinbi is not confirmed yet but its a high possibility. but what makes Jinbis chances greater than Vivi when they made the same promise?

its cuz Jinbi is hella strong isnt it? well if Vivi was as strong as Nami would she be more likely to join?



if her fighting skills became just as strong as Nami, hypothetically, would you see her joining than? If her dad told her that he would run the kingodm or have Kohza run the kingdom would it make it easier for her to go?



yes it does because of the context it is being said in. the SH asked her to join, she declines but than asks for a reinvitation the next time they meet. this implies she intends to join the next time.

ive been putting up the same points because nobody has refuted them... you at least out of everyone here addressed what i was getting at and i do thank you for that.

you chose the perfect name for yourself...

theres other people who can run her country in her absence. besides she has left her country before. she was in the top 12 best BW agents. shes an assaisin. her skills could have greatly increase over time. coby and laboon werent asked to join the SH, vivi was.

- jinbe and vivi did not make the same promise, that's just how U see it

-yes jinbe is really strong, thats not the only thing he brings to the table, and nami (imo the weakest in the crew) is not the benchmark in terms of strength. they want to get stronger as a crew not take in another liability

-u need to understand how monarchy works, they're not going to pass on the throne to a security guard. she is next in line to rule the nation. she has been training for it all her life. the only reason she joined BW was to save her father's reputation and save the country.

-again it is not an invitation, it was just good friends saying goodbye (at the end of the day SH's are pirates so she wanted to confirm even if she doesn't go with them, the time they spent together meant something to them)
 

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I doubt it. Vivi's one of my favorite characters, but I seriously doubt it.

Vivi asked if they would still call her their nakama if they ever see each other again. Not if she could join the crew. Vivi IS currently a nakama; she's just not a crew member. Vivi IS a Straw-Hat; she's just not a pirate.

Jinbe, on the other hand, asked if they would invite him to join the crew again next time.

See the difference?
Vivi: If we ever see each other again, will you still call me your friend?
Jinbe: Next time we see each other, will you still invite me to join your crew?

Vivi has a country to run. If she runs off with the Straw-Hats and becomes a pirate, her country will be destroyed. That was the reason why Vivi couldn't exactly acknowledge her alliance with the Straw-Hats in front of the Marines. She and her country would get in major trouble. And Vivi definitely does not want that again. She wouldn't risk the lives of her people.

I do hope they meet each other again. I want to see her interactions with Robin. XD Yeah, Vivi's not all that bothered about her joining the crew, but it'd still be pretty awkward. And she and the crew need to meet up again! I'm hoping something happens at the Reverie. Maybe not meeting up with the Straw-Hats, but I really want something to happen with Vivi, at least.

...I'm rambling. ANYWAYS. No, I do not think she will join the crew anytime soon. Too dangerous.
 
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