idk when or where they will meet and im not goin to pretend like i know. but Vivi is headed to the Reverie that is ontop of fishmen island so theres a great chance they will meet there.So, if I get this right, they would make her their nakama (crewmate, not friend in this case) after they have already conquered the Grand Line? Hmm, that seems like a nice idea.
ok.....Yeah I'd like to see what you're capable of because I already told you in your previous thread my answer.
You're wasting your own time. I have plenty of it.
I'm not trying to prove anything. She isn't going to join as a Crew member.
She'll become an ally.
lol... ok.. what is your theory exactly?Here is my theory. Agree with me or I'll flame you.
yes there are big roles for everbody on the ship but many of them, their roles were revealed after they joined. idk what her role would be, or what her dream would be but it could be revealed afterwards.What will be her position anyway in the ship? There are big roles for everybody in the Straw Hat Pirates and they all have dreams except maybe jimbei but we don't know that yet. Vivi's job is to protect her kingdom. What good will it be to her country if she is out fighting for her life, anyway?
I agree with Love Cook. She will be a nakama but not a crew-member. Let's just leave it at that.
the word "friend" has been used in the first 200 something chapters and than was replaced for nakama. its translated as friend but it could have been synommous with crew mate our better yet nakama which means friends/family/crew mate etc.@NvG
You interpret that conversation to mean crewmate. She doesn't outwardly say it. She says, "will you take me as a friend."
and more importantly this part:yes she is their friend like Boa and like Coby who is also a rival and Mr 2 Bon Clay, but Boa, Coby, and Bon Clay were not asked to join the SH. thats the difference. Vivi was asked, declined but asked to join in the future when they met again. If Vivi and SH meet again what is holding her back to keeping her promise of joining them? would the SH deny her?
and nakama means companion, friend, family and/or crew member. the english translation is friend but it was like that for the first few 200 chapters and it was replaced with the word nakama.
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i think you fail to interpret what was said.
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Luffy and SH invites Vivi to join them but she declines. why? to help rebuild her country that was destroyed during the civil war, plus she loves her country as stated. but when we continue reading...
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we can clearly interpret this page that she fully intends on joing the SH the next time they meet. the next time they meet the country would have had enough time to recover, there has been alot of time since shes been off screen plus the 2 year skip. the country should be running smoothly by now. so with the country running smoothly whats to stop her from keeping her promise of joining the next time she meets the SH?
that can be proven wrong later on.I don't think she will do anything for them
Hmm, I don't quite know to be honest. I just don't see vivi in the bigger picture for some reason. I prefer the Bonney and Jinbei (well, Jinbei being somewhat confirmed already) joining theories over Vivi, as I think it makes more sense (simply due to powerlevels and such) for them to join.idk when or where they will meet and im not goin to pretend like i know. but Vivi is headed to the Reverie that is ontop of fishmen island so theres a great chance they will meet there.
anyways wether they meet at reverie or after they conquer grand line, they will meet again agreed? what do you think? will she join or not?
"Will you take me as your friend" doesn't mean either of these things:she asks "will you take me as your friend (nakama)?" Luffy and others are the ones who decided to take her in in the first place. What would make them feel any different in the future? if they still decided to take her in, she would surely join since she asks if the invitation would still be open in the future. she asks "will you take me as your friend" because she intends to join in the future.
its only foreshadowing the future events
--well let me ask u this then narutovsgoku
why u want her to join ?
that's a bit too disgusting for me though she has probably gotten hotter over the two years. She was awesome even before the time-skip.he has fantasies of her in a maids costume..it gets him wet
agreed with everything, i don't know why the thread starter want vivi to join LOLwhy would she join? she has a country to run, and no skills as a pirate. in a fight, she'd be killed in a second, or worse, have a superior but not that good opponent screw around until she miraculously pulls out a win, like was happening with nami for a while.
and coby and laboon are also luffy's nakama, but they're not going to join. nakama means friends, not crewmates.
Bonney is captain of her own crew. Jinbi is not confirmed yet but its a high possibility. but what makes Jinbis chances greater than Vivi when they made the same promise?Hmm, I don't quite know to be honest. I just don't see vivi in the bigger picture for some reason. I prefer the Bonney and Jinbei (well, Jinbei being somewhat confirmed already) joining theories over Vivi, as I think it makes more sense (simply due to powerlevels and such) for them to join.
if her fighting skills became just as strong as Nami, hypothetically, would you see her joining than? If her dad told her that he would run the kingodm or have Kohza run the kingdom would it make it easier for her to go?Isn't vivi a bit too weak though..... She might end up getting killed if she joins the crew. The others can only save her so many times you know..... unless she get a devil's fruit or ends up mastering haki that is. I just don't see her joining though. The Straw Hats are on a whole different level compared to when they were in alabasta, not to mention more nakamas. Vivi is a princess, she was only on the ship because they promised to help stop crocodile.
yes it does because of the context it is being said in. the SH asked her to join, she declines but than asks for a reinvitation the next time they meet. this implies she intends to join the next time."Will you take me as your friend" doesn't mean either of these things:
>I promise to join you after I'm done with Alabasta
>Will you promise to let me join if we meet again
There's no promise in the statement. It just leaves a feeling of future interaction, but there is a certain finality in the statement that closes all arguments about Vivi joining.
Either way, I will parrot what the others have said. You've been putting up the same points over and over for a time now. So it's either time to hang up the "Vivi for SH crewmember" for now or just ... take a break.
you chose the perfect name for yourself...why would she join? she has a country to run, and no skills as a pirate. in a fight, she'd be killed in a second, or worse, have a superior but not that good opponent screw around until she miraculously pulls out a win, like was happening with nami for a while.
and coby and laboon are also luffy's nakama, but they're not going to join. nakama means friends, not crewmates.
Well from the decks of the world covers it's safe to say that Vivi isn't training as an assassin. Besides #12 of the BW agents isn't impressive at all. They're heading for the new world.theres other people who can run her country in her absence. besides she has left her country before. she was in the top 12 best BW agents. shes an assaisin. her skills could have greatly increase over time. coby and laboon werent asked to join the SH, vivi was.
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- jinbe and vivi did not make the same promise, that's just how U see itBonney is captain of her own crew. Jinbi is not confirmed yet but its a high possibility. but what makes Jinbis chances greater than Vivi when they made the same promise?
its cuz Jinbi is hella strong isnt it? well if Vivi was as strong as Nami would she be more likely to join?
if her fighting skills became just as strong as Nami, hypothetically, would you see her joining than? If her dad told her that he would run the kingodm or have Kohza run the kingdom would it make it easier for her to go?
yes it does because of the context it is being said in. the SH asked her to join, she declines but than asks for a reinvitation the next time they meet. this implies she intends to join the next time.
ive been putting up the same points because nobody has refuted them... you at least out of everyone here addressed what i was getting at and i do thank you for that.
you chose the perfect name for yourself...
theres other people who can run her country in her absence. besides she has left her country before. she was in the top 12 best BW agents. shes an assaisin. her skills could have greatly increase over time. coby and laboon werent asked to join the SH, vivi was.
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