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Actually up to you Venom, if you wanna wait you can if not we can start over from scratch.


Alright so this place

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is a bit dry for my liking. Care to make it rain for me guys? ;)
 

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actually up to you venom, if you wanna wait you can if not we can start over from scratch.


Alright so this place

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is a bit dry for my liking. care to make it rain for me guys? ;)
gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
 

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Seems like a fine place, I'll get started then..

*Does a couple of handseals, causing it to rain.*

(Suiton: Ukojizai no Jutsu) - Water Style: Rain Tiger at Will Technique
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra cost: 15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: A perception ninjutsu, allowing one to freely manipulate rain infused with the user's own chakra after waving the Bird → Rat → Ox → Monkey → Rat → Snake hand seals. The rain falls from rain clouds, formed with the users own chakra. During this technique, the falling raindrops are closely linked to the users senses. When the rain is obstructed by a chakra belonging to someone the existence of the target can be detected. The rain will keep on falling until the user uses the seal to cancel it.

Unless you preferred some other method

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Meh, I'll start from scratch then U_U

*Makes it rain*
(Suiton: Ukojizai no Jutsu) - Water Style: Rain Tiger at Will Technique
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra cost: 15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: A perception ninjutsu, allowing one to freely manipulate rain infused with the user's own chakra after waving the Bird → Rat → Ox → Monkey → Rat → Snake hand seals. The rain falls from rain clouds, formed with the users own chakra. During this technique, the falling raindrops are closely linked to the users senses. When the rain is obstructed by a chakra belonging to someone the existence of the target can be detected. The rain will keep on falling until the user uses the seal to cancel it.
 

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I was thinking more of

[video=youtube;6h36OGYBWVs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h36OGYBWVs[/video]

lol jk

Alright guys, sitting here in the rain. Tell me all you know about the Rain Element. Plus Why did you take the test and why do you want to learn the Rain element?
 
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Rain is a special element we use in our Rp. it was originated from amegakure in the manga/anime. In our rp, we use this with the combine elements water and wind. In the manga/anime rain was seen used by nagato, and yahiko. Don't remember seeing konan use it, but meh idk. Rain is usually known as a precipitation. Rain form around high temperature areas. With this, clouds form (rain clouds) and release rain droplets soon after. Then with our chakara we can manipulate this rain Rain is also weak against earth. Rain can be considered the same as normal water. Wind, can blow the clouds away with the appropriate jutsu. It is strong against Fire. Rain can be used to douse fire as normal water would. Another weakness, although not direct, is that while Rain is falling on the battle field, in certain cases, the use of Lightning techniques may be risky. (gotten from scorps elemental weakness thread ) and i took the test because rain seem like something interesting to have.
 

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Rain Release is a very rarely used element in Naruto as an Anime/Manga and in our Rp. It is highly restricted, having a test used in order to gain it here on NB. It is composed of Water and WInd nature transformations which work cohesively to intertwine into one element, Rain. Rain can be created by manipulating the nature types, causing water to fall down from the clouds (Water Part), this Rain can then be further manipulated to do certain tasks such as slicing the opponent or moving in particular patterns (Wind Part).

Used by

In our RP:
-Various Members who have taken and passed the Rain Exam only using Water and Wind, then further being taught by a sensei who has mastered the element themselves.

In the Manga/ Anime:
-Yahiko
-Nagato
-Konan (?)

Proficiencies

Strong To
Lightning I suppose(Iffy/Some cases): The Wind being stronger than lightning because of the nature properties that scatters the currents and discharges the lightning, while water is neutral. But when using lightning is very risky, because water naturally conducts lightning so using lightning could mean trouble for the opponent and/or user when used in right or wrong context.

Neutral To
Fire: Being a natural water source, Rain honestly disregards the property of Wind being weak to Fire, because Fire is weak to Water. Considering Rain is a water source, Rain can in fact be strong against fire in the right cases, which is most, but in the least it's neutral to it.

Weak To
Earth: While Wind is neutral to Earth, the water accountability is vastly weak to Earth, causing the element to fold as a whole when matched up against Earth Release.

The entire concept of Rain Release is to create clouds that precipitate the Rain you're going to manipulate. These clouds will have to be formed by the user by various means (Enacting a Rain juts, firing fire into sky(Lightning Clouds also), etc.). Then the user will effectively use these clouds to his advantage. The well known weakness to this concept is that if the opponent knows, they can just dispose of the clouds (while they're gathering or when they're formed) destroying all chances of using Rain Release all together.

Why I want to Learn Rain Release

I wanted to learn Rain Release, because I think it's a very useful element when used correctly, it could in fact turn a very difficult battle into an easy one. If the opponent doesn't know the basic concepts and knowledge of Rain Release, then the user has the upper hand immediately. Aside the fact that it's useful, it is a very versatile element. Water, being the most versatile of all the Basic 5 elements, uses these characteristics in Rain Release to unfathomable extents.

Why I took the Test for Rain Release

I took the test for Rain Release, beside the fact that I want to learn and master the actual element, I wanted to undergo a test. Being a former sensei and tester, I've never really had time in order to actually take a test for myself and why not kill two birds with one stone?
 

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Awesome job Darui-san

pick it up Venom :|

Alright guys now tell me, Rain isn't something you could always use. It must be raining always, what situations do you believe would render rain useless? Also give me some techniques you can think of that allow you to create rain?
 

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Situations Where Rain is Useless

Well Besides the obvious of when it's not Raining..

-Within an enclosed area where the user can't create the necessary requirements in order to manipulate Rain clouds. (For say in Orochimaru's hideout, the user doesn't have clouds to create Rain)

-In extreme Heat where water is nearly impossible or impossible to create. (Such as created deserts (Gaara or Topography Control) that comes with extreme heat or a jutsu used that drowns out all water related techniques. Ex: Hell Fire: Heat Wave or a jutsu similar)

-When in constant combat, which means that you can't take the necessary prerequisites to create or manipulate Rain clouds, because you're constantly getting attacked.

- When another user creates Rain with their chakra that interferes with yours, at first. When the Rain becomes lifeless (as in the sense neither the user or opponent has control of the said Rain (like it's just Rain now, no chakra in it) the user can now freely manipulate the Rain once more.


Jutsu I think that would allow me to use Rain

(Suiton: Suishōha) - Water Style: Water Shock Wave
Rank: C
Type: Offensive, Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid (Made short range of the user with a med range reach)
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Descripton: This technique allows the user after claping their hands together to make a spiralling vortex of water out of knowhere. The vortex then proceeds to explode from the top in the form of a wave. The user can also control the direction the wave goes with hand movements.

After the shockwave wears off , it would drench the ground, leaving a water source.

(Suiton: Bakusui Shōha) - Water Release: Exploding Water Colliding Wave
Rank: B
Type: Offensive, Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: The user performs the snake hand seal and creates a large volume of water from their mouth spilling it toward the ground and lifting them up into the air. The user can also ride the wave, allowing him to travel at high speeds and attacking the enemy. The user can create a small ocean worth of water even in barren conditions and can use the water for additional techniques.

Leaves a huge water source for the user to work with afterwards.

(Suiton: Dai Bakusui Shōha) - Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave
Rank: A
Type: Offensive,Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: This technique is a stronger version of exploding water colliding wave technique. The user will first perform the ram hand seal and then spits out a large amount of water that covers an entire area, with massive waves that can crush the opponent. The user then forms the water into a giant orb, instead of releasing like weaker version of the technique.

Same as the B-Rank Version of this technique

(Suiton: Suidan no Jutsu) - Water Release: Water Bullet Technique
Rank: S
Type: Offensive/Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra Cost: 40
Damage Points: 80
Description: The user inhales and molds a great amount of chakra into their chest, exhaling a very large quantity of water in the form of a powerful torrent towards their intended target. The stream of water is so powerful and concentrated it can rip through most obstacles in its path. The stream itself contains so much concentrated water that it can flood medium to large sized depressions of the battle field in relatively short amounts of time.

Most likely the jutsu that gives you the biggest amount of water in order to work with.


With those enacted, think of those as a floor plan for using Rain, literally. Those jutsu aren't exactly Rain Release. They're premature setups, that can be transitioned into Rain Release by one of the following techniques.

(Suiton: Seibun Hōfutsu) - Water Style: Water Heavens Convergence
Rank: C
Type: Defensive, Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: After performing the required hand signs Tiger → Dog → Monkey → Snake → Boar → Tiger the user makes water rise from the ground and they can use this water in various ways. They can create a body of water for a water summoning to be encased in and allow them to move around where normally no water exists, or create a body of water to block incoming attacks or surround his target and then drown them.

You manipulate the water to enter the clouds above and then convert it into Rain and use the Rain Element. (If learned already)

(Suiton: Kouu no Fukkou) - Water Style: Rain's Renaissance
Rank: A
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user slams his hand on the ground and sends a large wave of chakra into the ground. This wave of chakra causes all small, nearby sources of water to fly back into the clouds to replenish them. This has little effect on natural storms but on artificial ones it can be used multiple times to lengthen it almost indefinitely.

(Found in Rain Element
) This lets the user use the nearby Water sources created go back into the clouds and replenish them and use them for Rain. The technique below is an exception to the ones above as it creates the Rain, Artificially, then can be manipulated at will.

(Suiton: Ukojizai no Jutsu) - Water Style: Rain Tiger at Will Technique
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra cost: 15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: A perception ninjutsu, allowing one to freely manipulate rain infused with the user's own chakra after waving the Bird → Rat → Ox → Monkey → Rat → Snake hand seals. The rain falls from rain clouds, formed with the users own chakra. During this technique, the falling raindrops are closely linked to the users senses. When the rain is obstructed by a chakra belonging to someone the existence of the target can be detected. The rain will keep on falling until the user uses the seal to cancel it.
 

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You know, we don't gotta do no wallies right? :|

Man, no lie he basically said everything :shy: but I'll add on.

-Rain is useless:
=in an enclose area (such as where the kage summit was held)
=In sunagakure (When the use the village cj, causing the atmosphere to be dehydrated.)
=Coyote's CE; Arid release. He has many CEJs that last several turns, which basically sucks the moisture out of the atmosphere for a duration of turns
=When its someone Else rain. Meaning their chakra is already infuse into it.


Jutsu for rain

All of those listed. My main one is (Suiton: Ukojizai no Jutsu) - Water Style: Rain Tiger at Will Technique
 

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Situations Where Rain is Useless

Well Besides the obvious of when it's not Raining..

-Within an enclosed area where the user can't create the necessary requirements in order to manipulate Rain clouds. (For say in Orochimaru's hideout, the user doesn't have clouds to create Rain)

-In extreme Heat where water is nearly impossible or impossible to create. (Such as created deserts (Gaara or Topography Control) that comes with extreme heat or a jutsu used that drowns out all water related techniques. Ex: Hell Fire: Heat Wave or a jutsu similar)

-When in constant combat, which means that you can't take the necessary prerequisites to create or manipulate Rain clouds, because you're constantly getting attacked.

- When another user creates Rain with their chakra that interferes with yours, at first. When the Rain becomes lifeless (as in the sense neither the user or opponent has control of the said Rain (like it's just Rain now, no chakra in it) the user can now freely manipulate the Rain once more.


Jutsu I think that would allow me to use Rain

(Suiton: Suishōha) - Water Style: Water Shock Wave
Rank: C
Type: Offensive, Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid (Made short range of the user with a med range reach)
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Descripton: This technique allows the user after claping their hands together to make a spiralling vortex of water out of knowhere. The vortex then proceeds to explode from the top in the form of a wave. The user can also control the direction the wave goes with hand movements.

After the shockwave wears off , it would drench the ground, leaving a water source.

(Suiton: Bakusui Shōha) - Water Release: Exploding Water Colliding Wave
Rank: B
Type: Offensive, Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: The user performs the snake hand seal and creates a large volume of water from their mouth spilling it toward the ground and lifting them up into the air. The user can also ride the wave, allowing him to travel at high speeds and attacking the enemy. The user can create a small ocean worth of water even in barren conditions and can use the water for additional techniques.

Leaves a huge water source for the user to work with afterwards.

(Suiton: Dai Bakusui Shōha) - Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave
Rank: A
Type: Offensive,Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: This technique is a stronger version of exploding water colliding wave technique. The user will first perform the ram hand seal and then spits out a large amount of water that covers an entire area, with massive waves that can crush the opponent. The user then forms the water into a giant orb, instead of releasing like weaker version of the technique.

Same as the B-Rank Version of this technique

(Suiton: Suidan no Jutsu) - Water Release: Water Bullet Technique
Rank: S
Type: Offensive/Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra Cost: 40
Damage Points: 80
Description: The user inhales and molds a great amount of chakra into their chest, exhaling a very large quantity of water in the form of a powerful torrent towards their intended target. The stream of water is so powerful and concentrated it can rip through most obstacles in its path. The stream itself contains so much concentrated water that it can flood medium to large sized depressions of the battle field in relatively short amounts of time.

Most likely the jutsu that gives you the biggest amount of water in order to work with.


With those enacted, think of those as a floor plan for using Rain, literally. Those jutsu aren't exactly Rain Release. They're premature setups, that can be transitioned into Rain Release by one of the following techniques.

(Suiton: Seibun Hōfutsu) - Water Style: Water Heavens Convergence
Rank: C
Type: Defensive, Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: After performing the required hand signs Tiger → Dog → Monkey → Snake → Boar → Tiger the user makes water rise from the ground and they can use this water in various ways. They can create a body of water for a water summoning to be encased in and allow them to move around where normally no water exists, or create a body of water to block incoming attacks or surround his target and then drown them.

You manipulate the water to enter the clouds above and then convert it into Rain and use the Rain Element. (If learned already)

(Suiton: Kouu no Fukkou) - Water Style: Rain's Renaissance
Rank: A
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user slams his hand on the ground and sends a large wave of chakra into the ground. This wave of chakra causes all small, nearby sources of water to fly back into the clouds to replenish them. This has little effect on natural storms but on artificial ones it can be used multiple times to lengthen it almost indefinitely.

(Found in Rain Element
) This lets the user use the nearby Water sources created go back into the clouds and replenish them and use them for Rain. The technique below is an exception to the ones above as it creates the Rain, Artificially, then can be manipulated at will.

(Suiton: Ukojizai no Jutsu) - Water Style: Rain Tiger at Will Technique
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra cost: 15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: A perception ninjutsu, allowing one to freely manipulate rain infused with the user's own chakra after waving the Bird → Rat → Ox → Monkey → Rat → Snake hand seals. The rain falls from rain clouds, formed with the users own chakra. During this technique, the falling raindrops are closely linked to the users senses. When the rain is obstructed by a chakra belonging to someone the existence of the target can be detected. The rain will keep on falling until the user uses the seal to cancel it.
You know, we don't gotta do no wallies right? :|

Man, no lie he basically said everything :shy: but I'll add on.

-Rain is useless:
=in an enclose area (such as where the kage summit was held)
=In sunagakure (When the use the village cj, causing the atmosphere to be dehydrated.)
=Coyote's CE; Arid release. He has many CEJs that last several turns, which basically sucks the moisture out of the atmosphere for a duration of turns
=When its someone Else rain. Meaning their chakra is already infuse into it.


Jutsu for rain

All of those listed. My main one is (Suiton: Ukojizai no Jutsu) - Water Style: Rain Tiger at Will Technique
Darui, Rain can only be used while it's raining or can be manipulated from rain. You can't use water sources like the ones you mentioned to create rain techniques. Only techniques that make it rain, can be used to create rain.

So you were right with the Heaven's convergence and Rain tiger jutsu, but stuff like exploding colliding wave or shock wave or even a preexisting lake can't be used as a source to use Rain techniques. Only way is for it to be Raining.

Also, both of you said that if it's someone else's rain (i.e someone else uses Rain Tiger, or yours and his mix) you can't use rain jutsu. That was found out to be false some time ago, I was thought that way but in the Q&A I believe it was either Scorps or Ryuijin that said it was false. So yea, you can use any rain present as a source for rain techniques.

Any questions before we continue with techniques?
 

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Darui, Rain can only be used while it's raining or can be manipulated from rain. You can't use water sources like the ones you mentioned to create rain techniques. Only techniques that make it rain, can be used to create rain.

So you were right with the Heaven's convergence and Rain tiger jutsu, but stuff like exploding colliding wave or shock wave or even a preexisting lake can't be used as a source to use Rain techniques. Only way is for it to be Raining.

Also, both of you said that if it's someone else's rain (i.e someone else uses Rain Tiger, or yours and his mix) you can't use rain jutsu. That was found out to be false some time ago, I was thought that way but in the Q&A I believe it was either Scorps or Ryuijin that said it was false. So yea, you can use any rain present as a source for rain techniques.

Any questions before we continue with techniques?
Haha I know you can't use those jutsu for Rain lol I was saying that you have to pretty much create a water source then do the Rain Convergeance thingy on it :p but no questions
 

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OOH cool. I misread then. my bad

(Ame Tama no Jutsu) - Rain Bullet Technique
Rank: D
Type: Attack
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: By focusing chakra into the user's hand they are able to gather rain drops towards their palms, the rain is molded together by chakra and forged into a high pressured orb. Once done the orb will shoot away from the users hand and the user will be knocked back. If it hits the enemy the enemy will be sent away flying or unbalanced.


This technique is pretty cool but the rank kills it in my opinion. I want you to perform this technique and give me some Advantages and Disadvantages with it.
 
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