You are not providing information related to the subject. You are just spouting stuff unrelated. What does Toneri, Sage Mode, and Kurama Chakra Mode has to do with "Uzumaki is Senju'?BRO THESE ARE FROM THE MOVIES AND LATER MANGAS BEYOND THOSE CHAPTERS
YOU LITERALLY CANNOT REFUTE THE MORE FLESHED OUT INFO!
I told you that was speculation, but before that I also told you it was stated they were "Distant Blood Relative" though there was not clarification on what capacity.Who dictated Asura was their common ancestor? More speculation on your part there.
Honestly, get me a manga fact that actually said that they are Senju's bloodline
I provide you scans in the manga were it pointed to his Uzumaki linelage. WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT IN THE MANGA?NAGATO is said to be of Senju bloodline.. NAGATO. Not the entire clan of UZUMAKI.
Get that in your head!
Your argument is as simple as me going on about: "Naruto is Namikaze" = Uzumaki is of Namikaze lineage.
Naruto has no red trait hair, does that make him no longer Uzumaki?
where's your logic there?
NAGATO IS NOT THE ENTIRE CLAN
where are you getting your facts from? From these 2 panels? Because NAGATO is said to be Senju and that Senju are relatives of Uzumaki?
You are right. But I NEVER said Uzumaki was a branch of Senju. Regarding their common ancestry, I was only speculating. I told you that.Nowhere there is it stated that Uzumakis are branch of Senju. Nowhere there does it say that their common ancestry is Asura and not Kaguya or the 2 brothers.
YOURE GRASPING FOR STRAWS!
You're taking something speculated then stating it as FACTS?! HOW DUMB CAN YOU BE?
pretty sure that anyone with half a brain can tell you Nagato isn't a representative of the entire Uzumaki clan.
pretty sure that anyone can tell you that Uzumaki and Senju being relatives isn't PROOF that Uzumakis are Senju descendants.
SO WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS?!
I'm pretty sure that I've called you out numerous times about you grasping for straws. Making conclusion out of your ass.
Conditions to make to prove your theory as fact:
Strong evidence of Senju traits on Uzumaki.
1) Parallel abilities
3) direct quotes
4) multiple similarities from other characters
YOU HAVE ONE! THAT IS NAGATO
YOU HAVE NOTHING BUT SPECULATION ON WHERE THE ANCESTRY LIES FROM.
You have nothing that ties Uzumaki with Senju traits.
You have NOTHING to disprove my claims.
Unlike you, I don't say "I have facts" I am transparent that my theory is a theory.
You and salamander on the other hand, use CAUSATION FALLACY to try to prove your case.
FACTS DO NOT NEED SPECULATION
FACT #1: NAGATO IS SENJU
FACT #2: UZUMAKI AND SENJU ARE RELATED
FACT #3: NARUTO IS ASURA TRANSMIGRANT
FACT: UZUMAKI IS NOT NAGATO
SPECULATION: UZUMAKI IS FROM SENJU LINE
FACT: THERE ARE NO MORE REMAINING SENJU
FACT: ASURA MOVED TO UZUMAKI
SPECULATION: ASURA ONLY MOVES WITH THE ONE OF SENJU LINEAGE
These are facts that help your THEORY.
NOT A FACT: UZUMAKI IS SENJU DESCENDANTS FROM ASURA'S LINEAGE
where does it say that in the manga or the movies?
THEORY: UZUMAKI IS SENJU DESCENDENT
NOT A FACT: UZUMAKI IS SENJU DESCENDENT
STOP STATING YOUR THEORY IS A FACT WHEN YOU USE SPECULATION TO MAKE IT PLAUSIBLE. IT'S JUST A THEORY AND NOT A FACT.
did you not pay attention? it's explicitly shown.Hold on a minute who said Hamura is Yang and Hogaromo is Yin? Where have we gone to with this?
That's the point. We don't know the nature of it. The closest one we know is Naruto's. He has Uzumaki chakra genes (like Kushina's chains) and we later find out that Kinshiki uses them too.Yes, to the seal allowing mixing of chakra, nobody said the fuinn jutsu didn't allow it. However, how does that make it the same as Toneri's? That is the question.
The most educated guess that I can think of was Ninshu. Asura is the guy that uses it while his brother, Indra, uses ninjutsu.Naruto got it from Kurama chakra via fuinn, yes. Asura had his own vain his own chakra or being granted power from Hogaromo. How I don't know how any of that correlates to it being A Hamura thing, when you have Asura (Hogaromo's son) with it?
Fair enough. But that just means that even the databook doesn't really cover the Otsutsuki side of things.Kushina doesn't have the affinity and the databook is end of series, so it's not outdated. Actually longevity is an Uzumaki trait comes from powerful lifeforce, that doesn't make it a yang trait per se. And since she doesnt have yang release we can't assume she has it on the sly.
It's hard to read the graph. It shown Chakra and Nature (Yin and Yang).. So maybe that's just misinterpretation on my part.Rock Lee has none of the above, not even yin or yang. So it's accurate.
NOTHING. Because I'm proving that the Uzumaki is NOT Senju as your theory so called "FACTS" says.You are not providing information related to the subject. You are just spouting stuff unrelated. What does Toneri, Sage Mode, and Kurama Chakra Mode has to do with "Uzumaki is Senju'?
uhhh? The manga? I mean you presented it even with those scans.Again, point to where it says Nagato is of Senju blood?
Speculation on something you said was a FACT? I thought it was a FACT and not a THEORY?I told you that was speculation,
The fact that you USED speculation means that this THEORY is a THEORY not a FACT.You are right. But I NEVER said Uzumaki was a branch of Senju. Regarding their common ancestry, I was only speculating. I told you that
I'm not refuting any facts. I'm refuting your and salamander's claim of fact.It is not a theory. It is a fact directly from the Manga (no matter how you try to dice it).