Unlimited Potential of Rinnengan for true Rinnengan master - Sage of six paths

[Uchihareborn207]

susanoo is made out of chakra lol preta path

1.to use preta path you have to get close to susanoo and that would be suicide..

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2.nagato can't absorb that big susanoo without it landing an attack on him(you are assuming that madara would stay still and let his susanoo be absorbed? )
3.if nagato can absorb susanoo than it can absorb Bijuu mode of naruto, because they are all ninjutsu.

 

[Lightbringer]

1.to use preta path you have to get close to susanoo and that would be suicide..

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2.nagato can't absorb that big susanoo without it landing an attack on him(you are assuming that madara would stay still and let his susanoo be absorbed? )
3.if nagato can absorb susanoo than it can absorb Bijuu mode of naruto, because they are all ninjutsu.

yeah, actually Nagato can

The Susanoo Sword is still part of Susanoo thus made of chakra and Nagato can fly to get close to it

I'm not saying that Nagato can defeat Madara, just saying that rinnegan>sharingan and a rinnegan user can defeat a susanoo user

Also, yeah Nagato can absorb Naruto's Bijuu cloak because it's made from chakra.....Nagato was already shown absorbing Bee's V2 cloak

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[AlphaScythian]

Always depends on the user, but sharingan has hax that rinnegan cant counter thus both can win.
I find sharingan more battle suited due to movement and jutsu reading, genjutsu and hax jutsus that cover defense and offence nicely. It's well rounded doujutsu, rinnegan is versatile but not so battle suited.

 

[KCMNaruto]

I agree with everything you had to say, except one thing and that's Tsukuyomi. I know I'm going to get bashed on this but I'm only going off of what the manga told me and I'm curious on how any Rinnegan user gets past Itachi's Tsukuyomi. The reason for this is that he controls space and time in his Tsukuyomi, it's far above the average genjutsu. He can do what he wants in his genjutsu world.

According to the Manga only a Sharingan user with the same blood as Itachi has the potential to get past his Tsukuyomi.

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According to the Manga a Sharingan user himself: when hit by Itachi's Tsukuyomi there's no cancelling the effects it. "No Cancelling" means no cancelling, it's invincible. And that hasn't been proven wrong except by Sasuke for reason already stated.

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Now, despite those manga facts I'm still probably going to get "LOL Creation of all things stomp" posts. Well apparently it doesn't, and honestly COAT is overrated. It creates things, as the user breaths life into something, the Jutsu obviously has its limits and just do anything it wants like just imagining something to die. If that was the case then the Sage wouldn't of had to seal the Juubi in himself.

^^ I have to admit that you are right about it, because you even provided scan to prove your opinion;(

I know that my opinion or guess means nothing in front of proof, but maybe Kishi didn't think forward in future too much or
he simply didn't prediction to introduce Rinnengan.

It could be just hype for Itachi and Sasuke at that time of Manga, or Kishi didn't thought about Rinnengan then....

Anyway I can say that COAT counter Tsyukomii but why even use it. Remember that Rinnengan user has potential to each mastery over Yin release(Genjutsu), so Maybe as Master of Yin Release(If he reached full potential of Rinenngan even) he could take control over Tsukiyomii or simply dispel, so anyway Master of Rinenngan could have countered Tsukyiomii

Thanks for developing debate

It does'nt seem like it has a limit since it can absorb a tailed beast's worth of chakra as shown when Nagato absorbed all of the chakra of Killer Bee's V2 form.

^^ that is true as well

I agree, I always imagined rinnegan user to be near omnipotent, especially the SO6P

There is no way I could conceive of someone like Shisui defeating him with just KA or Obito with Kamui.....it's just too simple and would defeat the purpose of the rinnegan being the ultimate doujutsu.

My only suspicion is the creation of all things; I'm sure there is a limit to what it can do since the Sage did indeed die.....and if it can create all things, then why didn't the SO6P grant himself immortality?

I hope we find out eventually.

I agree totally with you You wrote all my thougths about it

About your question: "if it can create all things, then why didn't the SO6P grant himself immortality?"

I have few theories about it:

1) The Sage of six paths believed in Life and Death Order or something like that, so he simply accepted death
2) Juubi chakra or remains in Sage of six paths could kill him anyway even if he used COAT Again
3) He didn't have enough chakra to do COAT
4) Creation of All things has some limit to it

If you have the 'body' as well then you can use perfect izanagi which is the same as creation of all things.. you can't beaten, unless you drain out your chakra.

Otherwise, just the abilities shown by Nagato can be beaten somewhat easily.

^^ that could be true, but maybe having Senjuu and Uchiha DNA in one body give you even more benefits =D

who knows, we have to wait and see

rinnegan is so OP but awesome =)=)=)

Exactly my friend =D

madara use this

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and any rinnegan user destroyed (he wouldn't even have time to use bansho Bansho tenin)

The Sage of six paths could use Bansho Tenin much faster then Nagato, or at greater scale with greater force or even use another technique to counter it.

Remember the Sage of six paths was said to use any jutsu

shinra tensei....... :|

^^ Exactly with Power of Uchiha and Senjuu DNA along with most likely Sage chakra it could even repel Perfect Sussano

I was thinking more along the lines of a 1 handed CST

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^^ Exactly this

Considering Itachi never faced a skilled rinnegan user....
That is based on opinion.

^^ As I said

hahahahahaha it wouldn't even put a scratch:snick:.susanoo is pure power just like the kyuubi.

Even if it is true, then just pump even more chakra into that while even amplify it with Sage chakra then it could work

Don't understimate True Rinnengan Master The Sage of six paths

susanoo is made out of chakra lol preta path

^^Hahaha, that true considering that everything made by Nagato can be done by SOSP multiply few times at least or even 50 times

Sorry but creation of all things wont help vs izanami.
Izanami is devised against that.
Sharigan reigns supreme in battle.

Hmm... Interesting, but then Rinnengna user uses his mastery over Yin release(genjutsu) or Ying-Yang release to break through Izanami

Remember Itachi's words every jutsu has weakness, if that is true and SOSP was said to use any jutsu then SOSP > Izanami

Seems like a fap thread to me.

Just you I think, but feel free to say anything you want

yeah, actually Nagato can

The Susanoo Sword is still part of Susanoo thus made of chakra and Nagato can fly to get close to it

I'm not saying that Nagato can defeat Madara, just saying that rinnegan>sharingan and a rinnegan user can defeat a susanoo user

Also, yeah Nagato can absorb Naruto's Bijuu cloak because it's made from chakra.....Nagato was already shown absorbing Bee's V2 cloak

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^^ That guy is speaking truth , listen to him

Always depends on the user, but sharingan has hax that rinnegan cant counter thus both can win.
I find sharingan more battle suited due to movement and jutsu reading, genjutsu and hax jutsus that cover defense and offence nicely. It's well rounded doujutsu, rinnegan is versatile but not so battle suited.

^^ Well I could disagree as Rinnengan was said to use any jutsu

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[AlphaScythian]

^^ Well I could disagree as Rinnengan was said to use any jutsu

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I disagree. Out of 3 doujutsus only sharingan is an active one.
Rinnegan simply opens doors to all chakra types, then the users must copy or invent jutsus.

Sharingan shoots black flames, has hypnotic powers, erases boundaries between dimensions space and time and creates huge chakra monstrosity with hax weapons. All above can be used by the eye.

All of rinnegan techniques used by the body, the eye simply activates the jutsu for the body to be used. So rinnegan user can never get sharingan or MS/EMS techniques due to passive eye.

 

[BlinkST]

The only way to the Rinnegan is with a Sharingan, anyhow. The Rinnegan has become nothing more than another temporary Sharingan transformation. Mangekyo/eternal Mangekyo & Rinnegan are glorified transformations; Madara does not have a Rinnegan. He has a Sharingan that can become a Rinnegan.

 

[Seventh Sama]

so, technically. you're really a god if you're a true rinnegan user.... Cool

 

[Klue]

7. Creation of All things -

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The process involves the administration of imagination, and the spiritual energy which forms the basis of Yin chakra to create physical forms from nothingness. Then, through the application of vitality, and the physical energy which forms the basis of Yang chakra, he would breathe life into the resulting creations.

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How can you post this, before posting this:

Sussano - Bansho Tenin, pull user out of Sussano. Preta Path, just absorb Sussano. Creation of All things, create yourself sussano or imagine that sussano isn't there.

Creation of All Things, creates life using one's imagination as a blue print. It doesn't remove things, it wasn't described as an ability which creates non-living things.

 

[Lightbringer]

The only way to the Rinnegan is with a Sharingan, anyhow. The Rinnegan has become nothing more than another temporary Sharingan transformation. Mangekyo/eternal Mangekyo & Rinnegan are glorified transformations; Madara does not have a Rinnegan. He has a Sharingan that can become a Rinnegan.

The rinnegan existed before the sharingan, if anything the sharingan is just a watered down rinnegan

 

[BlinkST]

The rinnegan existed before the sharingan, if anything the sharingan is just a watered down rinnegan

It doesn't matter which came first; what matters is which one reigns now. The Sharingan has the Mangekyo and Rinnegan transformations; three sets of powers. Sounds more like succession than "watered down" to me.

 

[Kadmos1]

I think that a healthy Nagato with (at least) Yamato/Obito-level Mokuton+Itachi/Obito-level intellect+Itachi/Obito-level genjutsu+Gai-level taijutsu=stronger ninja than Madara.

I think the Rikudou could kill even an Edo Madara with a Shinra Tensei of such magnitude.

 

[S A G E]

It doesn't matter which came first; what matters is which one reigns now. The Sharingan has the Mangekyo and Rinnegan transformations; three sets of powers. Sounds more like succession than "watered down" to me.

3 sets of power is inferior to the many abilities and possibilities of rinnegan techs.
Besides Uchihas can never unlock the rinnegan by themselves since they need the senju clans DNA.
if anything rinnegan is the combination of Uchiha and senju powers, sharingan is exactly a watered down version of rinnegan like previously mentioned.

 

[MWQ]

That is debatable until manga or Kishi states otherwise.

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I am well aware that it is debatable,but according to this page,Madara says its a bit too much so there must be a fixed limit to the absorption of chakra by the preta path.

 

[RNITBmsage]

meh the wielder is wat makes the differance

 

[KCMNaruto]

meh the wielder is wat makes the differance

^^ Exactly Whether Rinnengan is efficent or no it depends on wielder, and that wielder makes the differance

 

[AlphaScythian]

The rinnegan existed before the sharingan, if anything the sharingan is just a watered down rinnegan

What makes you think that?
Both came from juubi eye. It vividly clear in this manga that rinnegan in hands of non uchiha loses to MS/EMS users
Sharingan and rinnegan are 2 halves of the juubi eye, with sharingan being more battle oriented.

 

[KCMNaruto]

What makes you think that?
Both came from juubi eye. It vividly clear in this manga that rinnegan in hands of non uchiha loses to MS/EMS users
Sharingan and rinnegan are 2 halves of the juubi eye, with sharingan being more battle oriented.

^^ Well I agree with you except last part. I think that Rinnengan can be even more battle oriented but it depends on how good is wielder ;D

So we will see soon

 

[BlinkST]

3 sets of power is inferior to the many abilities and possibilities of rinnegan techs.

Sharingan, Mangekyo Sharingan, and Rinnegan are the three sets of powers. The Rinnegan is a transformation, just like the Mangekyo Sharingan is a transformation. It does not replace the original Sharingan. 3 sets of powers is leaps and bounds ahead of just one set of power.

Besides Uchihas can never unlock the rinnegan by themselves since they need the senju clans DNA.

Nor can they awaken a Rinnegan without first having an eternal Mangekyo Sharingan. Bunk point.

 

[Lightbringer]

What makes you think that?
Both came from juubi eye. It vividly clear in this manga that rinnegan in hands of non uchiha loses to MS/EMS users
Sharingan and rinnegan are 2 halves of the juubi eye, with sharingan being more battle oriented.

We still don't know if the SO6P obtained the rinnegan through the Juubi or before sealing it. It's really just all speculation.

I believe the Sage gained the rinnegan through his understanding and communion with the world of chakra much like how Buddha became enlightened through meditation and not through defeating an obstacle.

and if the sharingan was on the same level as the rinnegan, then I don't think it would need both senju and uchiha DNA to unlock it.

 

[BlinkST]

Ems Madara is above Nagato, is he not?