Unlimited Potential of Rinnengan for true Rinnengan master - Sage of six paths

[Draphsin]

That may be true, but these are reasons why The Sage is most likely better Rinnengan user then Nagato and I can even say that he is Perfect Rinnengan user and use it to full potential:

1) Th Sage got Rinnengan from heaven or simply becoming Juubi Jinchurki , so either way he got it from original source which make it much more powerfull as Rinenngan could lost some special traits, powers in evolution's way.

Madara awakened it as per evolution yet he isnt spamming CoAT, & dont say he doesnt know how to either because its obvious that he taught it's origins & workings to obito.

The sage awakening the rinnegan is a special case, plain & simple. Madara awakened the rinnegan & was able to use the same paths techniques that nagato was able to use, even with his vast amount of experience. Neither of them showed any form of CoAT other than madara creating black zetsu, but that was with the gedo statue (juubi) attached.

2) Th Sage was Senjuu and Uchiha in one body unlike Nagato, so there is high possibilty that you need Senjuu and Uchiha DNA in your body to even have chance to use full potential of Rinenngan

Madara had both, he was attached to the gedo mazou so he had a chance to play around with the rinnegan's abilities. Yet he isnt spamming CoAT

3) Considering That Sage of six paths discovered chakra and that Juubi is made of nature energy so The Sage may be First Senjutsu user, so may be he used amplified Rinnengan techiniques by Sage chakra

This is not an ability of the rinnegan, anything that SM does to it does not matter as it is a separate technique

4) We don't know exactly how long The Sage was Juubi Jinchurki so maybe he was longer Jin then Nagato has lived so Sage coudl have much more expierience then Nagato

That's completely unfair, you're comparing an experienced rinnegan user with no help to a rinnegan user who awakened it later on in life with the juubi to help him out. Nagato's experience in mastering the rinnegan came from his own power, not the juubi's, who know's what kind of monstrous power the juubi gives rikudou.

5) The Sage of six paths is simply God figure and even Nagato comparing his own power to The Sage said that his power is nothing in front of Sage of six paths

Because the sage had the juubi & he was a combination of the two strongest clans that came into existence. Of course he's going to be more poweful, but this in no way proves that a "true rinnegan master" can unlock CoAT. That jutsu is specifically reserved for rikudou or the juubi's jin depending on what obito does.

 

[S A G E]

u r missing one point bro...rinnegan needs life force rather than chakra pool ...being juubi jin doesn't mean he can use all rinnegan tech's way easily ...
ex:rinnei tensei requires life force nt jus chakra ...nagato performed it n brought back entire village ... when obito did he was on the verge of death trying to bring back just one person

physical energy whic is life force is > uchiha's spirit energy n eyes..m saying it because senju's were stronger than uchiha's..

juubi is a pool of chakra ...it was rikudou who possessed life force not juubi ...n where does it say that by becoming juubi jinchuriki the user will unlock rinnegan??

and also madara has higher chakra than kyuubi itself...let alone kurama naruto fight him i don't see any chance of naruto winning against him at this level ..

I believe rinnegan techs require chakra rather than life force, hence the purpose of the chakra rods that receives chakra from nagato to his six paths. With the exception of rinne tensei which might actually require life force since it is a resurrection jutsu like the one Chiyo used to revive Gaara.

Id like to believe the theory that the rinnegan originated from the juubi, hence naruto will unlock it since he has the chakras of the tailed beast minus Gyuki and second half of kuramas. Also the possibility of the sage being of uzumaki heritage. That would make naruto a likely condidate that will obtain the rinnegan, similar to that of the sage of six paths.

kyubi or tailed beast in general gives the user almost limitless chakra, which is why I believe it is more than Madara. Now I'm talking about chakra pool or base level chakra, since edos can regenerate their chakra almost immediately. Kyubi claimed that Madara has more sinister/evil than his, not higher amount. Since madaras chakra pool is lower, I think there are certain rinnegan techs that he can't perform, or if he can then at a lower scale magnitude.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Madara awakened it as per evolution yet he isnt spamming CoAT, & dont say he doesnt know how to either because its obvious that he taught it's origins & workings to obito.

Yeah and I don't want to deny it, but maybe just maybe Sage of six paths didn't write everything on This Uchiha Tablet, so Madara and even Obito may lack still something which Sage wanted for people to find out themselves while following his beliefs so it would be failsafe in case so villain appears and want to be Juubi Jin and take control over world

The sage awakening the rinnegan is a special case, plain & simple. Madara awakened the rinnegan & was able to use the same paths techniques that nagato was able to use, even with his vast amount of experience. Neither of them showed any form of CoAT other than madara creating black zetsu, but that was with the gedo statue (juubi) attached.

That is true

Madara had both, he was attached to the gedo mazou so he had a chance to play around with the rinnegan's abilities. Yet he isnt spamming CoAT

Maybe Madar didn't feel like to spam Rinnengan or he simply wasn't forced to spam just yet, let's wait and see what will he do against Juubi Jin Obito

This is not an ability of the rinnegan, anything that SM does to it does not matter as it is a separate technique

^^ True but still SM could amplify Rinnengan abilities and make them stronger then usual

That's completely unfair, you're comparing an experienced rinnegan user with no help to a rinnegan user who awakened it later on in life with the juubi to help him out. Nagato's experience in mastering the rinnegan came from his own power, not the juubi's, who know's what kind of monstrous power the juubi gives rikudou.

^^ Ok that may be truth, you are right

Because the sage had the juubi & he was a combination of the two strongest clans that came into existence. Of course he's going to be more poweful, but this in no way proves that a "true rinnegan master" can unlock CoAT. That jutsu is specifically reserved for rikudou or the juubi's jin depending on what obito does.

^^ the we have to wait and see But still I believe The SOSP is only one and The best Rinnengan user of all times

Thanks for good debate

 

[Draphsin]

Yeah and I don't want to deny it, but maybe just maybe Sage of six paths didn't write everything on This Uchiha Tablet, so Madara and even Obito may lack still something which Sage wanted for people to find out themselves while following his beliefs so it would be failsafe in case so villain appears and want to be Juubi Jin and take control over world



That is true



Maybe Madar didn't feel like to spam Rinnengan or he simply wasn't forced to spam just yet, let's wait and see what will he do against Juubi Jin Obito



^^ True but still SM could amplify Rinnengan abilities and make them stronger then usual



^^ Ok that may be truth, you are right



^^ the we have to wait and see But still I believe The SOSP is only one and The best Rinnengan user of all times

Thanks for good debate

Lol yeah it was fun

& ill agree by saying that the sage is the best rinnegan user, but as I stated its because of other reasons outside of him only having the rinnegan, reasons that we most likely dont understand yet. & maybe madara does have CoAT (lol would be pretty OP) so yeah I guess the best thing is to wait & see what he & juubito can do

 

[EternalFlame]

I agree with everything you had to say, except one thing and that's Tsukuyomi. I know I'm going to get bashed on this but I'm only going off of what the manga told me and I'm curious on how any Rinnegan user gets past Itachi's Tsukuyomi. The reason for this is that he controls space and time in his Tsukuyomi, it's far above the average genjutsu. He can do what he wants in his genjutsu world.

According to the Manga only a Sharingan user with the same blood as Itachi has the potential to get past his Tsukuyomi.

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According to the Manga a Sharingan user himself: when hit by Itachi's Tsukuyomi there's no cancelling the effects it. "No Cancelling" means no cancelling, it's invincible. And that hasn't been proven wrong except by Sasuke for reason already stated.

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Now, despite those manga facts I'm still probably going to get "LOL Creation of all things stomp" posts. Well apparently it doesn't, and honestly COAT is overrated. It creates things, as the user breaths life into something, the Jutsu obviously has its limits and just do anything it wants like just imagining something to die. If that was the case then the Sage wouldn't of had to seal the Juubi in himself.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Preta path can not absorb infinite amount of chakra.

It does'nt seem like it has a limit since it can absorb a tailed beast's worth of chakra as shown when Nagato absorbed all of the chakra of Killer Bee's V2 form.

 

[Lightbringer]

I agree, I always imagined rinnegan user to be near omnipotent, especially the SO6P

There is no way I could conceive of someone like Shisui defeating him with just KA or Obito with Kamui.....it's just too simple and would defeat the purpose of the rinnegan being the ultimate doujutsu.

My only suspicion is the creation of all things; I'm sure there is a limit to what it can do since the Sage did indeed die.....and if it can create all things, then why didn't the SO6P grant himself immortality?

I hope we find out eventually.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

can't disagree on any thing you said.

BUT

sage of six path have 6, 6-3 = 3

half life 3 confirmed

Rikūdo is the G-Man

 

[Beetle]

If you have the 'body' as well then you can use perfect izanagi which is the same as creation of all things.. you can't beaten, unless you drain out your chakra.

Otherwise, just the abilities shown by Nagato can be beaten somewhat easily.

 

[ShiroShonen]

rinnegan is so OP but awesome =)=)=)

 

[Uchihareborn207]

madara use this

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and any rinnegan user destroyed (he wouldn't even have time to use bansho Bansho tenin)

 

[S A G E]

madara use this

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and any rinnegan user destroyed (he wouldn't even have time to use bansho Bansho tenin)

shinra tensei....... :|

 

[Draphsin]

shinra tensei....... :|

I was thinking more along the lines of a 1 handed CST

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[Mitarashi]

I agree with everything you had to say, except one thing and that's Tsukuyomi. I know I'm going to get bashed on this but I'm only going off of what the manga told me and I'm curious on how any Rinnegan user gets past Itachi's Tsukuyomi. The reason for this is that he controls space and time in his Tsukuyomi, it's far above the average genjutsu. He can do what he wants in his genjutsu world.

According to the Manga only a Sharingan user with the same blood as Itachi has the potential to get past his Tsukuyomi.

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According to the Manga a Sharingan user himself: when hit by Itachi's Tsukuyomi there's no cancelling the effects it. "No Cancelling" means no cancelling, it's invincible. And that hasn't been proven wrong except by Sasuke for reason already stated.

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Now, despite those manga facts I'm still probably going to get "LOL Creation of all things stomp" posts. Well apparently it doesn't, and honestly COAT is overrated. It creates things, as the user breaths life into something, the Jutsu obviously has its limits and just do anything it wants like just imagining something to die. If that was the case then the Sage wouldn't of had to seal the Juubi in himself.

Considering Itachi never faced a skilled rinnegan user....
That is based on opinion.

 

[Uchihareborn207]

shinra tensei....... :|

hahahahahaha it wouldn't even put a scratch:snick:.susanoo is pure power just like the kyuubi.

 

[Kadmos1]

Drapshin said:

Nagato's experience in mastering the rinnegan came from his own power, not the juubi's, who know's what kind of monstrous power the juubi gives rikudou

This statement is the type of statement that strengthens my opinion that Nagato awakened his Rinnegan before Madara unlocked his.

 

[Uchihareborn207]

and you guys were saying that nagato is better using rinnegan than the one who awakened the rinnegan (madara)?

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[Lightbringer]

hahahahahaha it wouldn't even put a scratch:snick:.susanoo is pure power just like the kyuubi.

susanoo is made out of chakra lol preta path

 

[AlphaScythian]

Sorry but creation of all things wont help vs izanami.
Izanami is devised against that.
Sharigan reigns supreme in battle.

 

[BlinkST]

Seems like a fap thread to me.