Uchihas destroyed the hard work theme and insulted rock lee and others

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So you lied yet again, this time about that one being your last post? I'm not surprised :lmao:

However, after you were caught bluntly lying and faking up facts multiple times in this thread before, seeing how you still haven't proven a single point of yours and neither proven a single mine being wrong, you've lost your credibility completely by now. Therefore I don't think it's wise to waste any more time on you, kiddo, considering that you are obviously a helpless case and people agreed with me anyway, not with you. Especially after that remark about gender and intelligence, that was the final nail in your coffin.

I will ignore you from now on, you may write another wall of retarded text with broken formatting, I don't care :sigar: Thank you for entertaining me and other members who have been reading this all along. :Sparks:


I knew this was coming. Welp I'm not surprised that when I brough Manga facts, now you want to ignore me. I ommited the gender response because not only wasn't it directed to you, I was obviously joking. Anyway, enjoy your L

Feels good to be surperior :scorps:


Izanami isn't one of the MS techniques exclusive to one's Mangekyo. How is this even fair?

Don't get me started on Izanagi as that shows how much you really don't know about the manga. Izanagi is a Yin-Yang Release, so an Uchiha can't obtain it through normal means.

We've witnessed already how Obito used Kamui upon awakening the Mangekyo. We've also had Itachi state that he awakened Susano'o along with his other Mangekyo techniques upon Shisui's death:



Same can't apply to Sasuke because of what exactly?

Inb4"But there's no feats to suggest it" even though we're providing logic that proves that Sasuke did at least have Amaterasu and Enton Kagutsuchi upon awakening the Mangekyo.


Did you post just to post or did you actually read anything?
 

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Nope, noticed you claimed how Sasuke didn't awaken Amaterasu upon awakening his MS. :bdpf:
 

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Nope, noticed you claimed how Sasuke didn't awaken Amaterasu upon awakening his MS. :bdpf:

Ok so I'll you the same thing. Can I see proof? And don't say "since obito did it...."

That's not proof


I never denied him having Ama when he awoke MS I stated that he didn't know how to use the tech as soon as he awoke it like it's being claimed he did
 

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Ok so I'll you the same thing. Can I see proof? And don't say "since obito did it...."

That's not proof

Nope, I presented you 2 examples and you choose to ignore it.

You didn't refute these examples, so I guess I win. :sigar:
 

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its more like a mix of both, you need to be gifted but also you need to put in hard work to hone your gifts and take advantage of your blessings. Kishimoto was a gifted artist but he would have never gotten to where he was sitting on his ass. Guy used pure hard work and determination to be able to stand up to a God like being, he was a genius of hard work.

Go home Krys, you're drunk.
 

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You say this not only when it was canonically made known that the Uchiha had to train their reflexes and evlove their Jutsu but when the story kicks off with the Main character having the second most powerful Chakra entity of that world sealed into his body free of cost already establishing him with Chakra pools rivaling or even greater than those of the most powerful Hokage who ever lived and try to negate this fact with the ultimate rubbish of an excuse that Jinchuriki's still have to work by training when fact is, having this free power-up is what allowed Naruto to become more powerful than almost every Uchiha that has every been in existence and once the Kyuubi took control that it was fighting for him? When Naruto was spanking Orochimaru was that a result of his hard work? When he was spanking Deva Path and blasting Bijuu Dama was that also a result of his hard work? When he was busting through Chibaku tensei was that also causative of his training? Funny. Sasuke copying Rock-lee's moves is an insult to his character but Naruto by the end of part 1 being stronger than Rock lee without even doing training any where near his level and surviving a Chidori through his rib-cage and lung isn't an insult to rock-lee and biological functions? In this case I may just have to agree with Lovely alcoholic with your KFC of a post: Salty, dumb and cancerous.
 
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As expected this thread has been over by uchiha fappers but hopefully the message of this thread has been received by those for whom it was intended and hopefully they too will come to realise the damage done to the quality of the manga by these uchiha.
 

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What makes you think I even want to engage a fake like yourself Waltz, everything about you is a fake copy of Varrah.

Shoo go away.
 

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They don't look like manga scans to me

I presented one with Itachi.

I don't need to present one with Obito as he immediately used Kamui upon activating his MS. If you're in doubt, reread that part of the manga.

If you can't refute these 2 examples, it looks like you concede. :sigar:
 

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As expected this thread has been over by uchiha fappers but hopefully the message of this thread has been received by those for whom it was intended and hopefully they too will come to realise the damage done to the quality of the manga by these uchiha.
did you expect something different? You're just mad that you had to see the aftermath of how badly your logic got picked apart and destroyed, because you wouldn't be complaining one bit if the thread was taken over by ppl who wanted to complain as much as you. You wanted ppl to discuss, so if you can't handle what's being said, that's a you problem.
 

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I presented one with Itachi.

I don't need to present one with Obito as he immediately used Kamui upon activating his MS. If you're in doubt, reread that part of the manga.

If you can't refute these 2 examples, it looks like you concede. :sigar:

Actually you didn't, you basically spewed nonsense in response to something you think I said. Rereading your post, it's obvious that you saw something I said misinterpreted what I said, ignored the whole exchnage between me and the troll and just responded without reading. I'm not entertaining foolishness, I already do that enough on here, sorry
 

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Sasuke got good with taijutsu and swordman skills by training, Sasasuke learn Lee fighting style thanks to Kakashi and then swordmans skills with Orochimaru.

The Sharingan doesn't grant instant copy jutsu, the user need to be strong enough to perform the jutsu and the right genetic to do KKG otherwise ice style won't work.
 

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Sasuke got good with taijutsu and swordman skills by training, Sasasuke learn Lee fighting style thanks to Kakashi and then swordmans skills with Orochimaru.

The Sharingan doesn't grant instant copy jutsu, the user need to be strong enough to perform the jutsu and the right genetic to do KKG otherwise ice style won't work.

He copy Lee style zero training and copyed oro fighting style
 

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He copy Lee style zero training and copyed oro fighting style

Hmm if you mean that one taijutsu that Sasuke used against the sound ninja in the Chuunin exam, to be fair even Naruto copied Lee one taijutsu. Lets not forget that Sasuke didn't copy Lee 1 taijutsu since Gai stopped the match.

Kakashi told gai that he trained Sasuke the same style like Lee, Gai was suprised since Lee lost against Gaara with taijutsu.

No were was it mentioned that Sasuke copied Orochimaru style, he trained and was taught.
 

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The manga used to have a theme of hard work but it was abandoned by kishimoto when he started giving free powerups to uchihas.

Think about it uchihas basically cry to get mangekyo powers, while every other ninja has to train and work his ass off, they can also basically copy others hardwork just like that.

Sasuke copying Rock Lee's moves was a great insult to his character. Add to that the fact that Rock Lee was essentially shoved to the side both in character development and became a fodder just because he wasnt from a special clan.

Kishimoto unwittingly or knowingly gives us a message that unless you are born special you can't succeed in the world, cry and you will get what you want, hard work be damned.

Discuss.

It actually was more so hard work vs talent.
 
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