Uchihas destroyed the hard work theme and insulted rock lee and others

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The manga used to have a theme of hard work but it was abandoned by kishimoto when he started giving free powerups to uchihas.

Think about it uchihas basically cry to get mangekyo powers, while every other ninja has to train and work his ass off, they can also basically copy others hardwork just like that.

Sasuke copying Rock Lee's moves was a great insult to his character. Add to that the fact that Rock Lee was essentially shoved to the side both in character development and became a fodder just because he wasnt from a special clan.

Kishimoto unwittingly or knowingly gives us a message that unless you are born special you can't succeed in the world, cry and you will get what you want, hard work be damned.

Discuss.
 

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I think he proved us that hardworking can be equal as talent.

We've seen Gai, Naruto SM, 3rd Raikage, Minatoi,Jirayia, Tobirama. Their hardworking brought succes against against Madara, Izuna, Kyuubi, 10kshinobi, Pein, Kurama. And none of them had these powers from birth.

And they were almost equal to Gifted power ones.
 

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One, Rock Lee isn't a fodder lol. Just cause he can't compare to the reincarnation of a God's grandson, doesn't mean that. Lee was never supposed to be a ninja, of course a prodigy from the strongest clan at the time (Senju were irrelevant by then) should be better than him. Are you implying that Sasuke didn't train his ass off as well?
 

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The manga used to have a theme of hard work but it was abandoned by kishimoto when he started giving free powerups to uchihas.

Think about it uchihas basically cry to get mangekyo powers, while every other ninja has to train and work his ass off, they can also basically copy others hardwork just like that.

Sasuke copying Rock Lee's moves was a great insult to his character. Add to that the fact that Rock Lee was essentially shoved to the side both in character development and became a fodder just because he wasnt from a special clan.

Kishimoto unwittingly or knowingly gives us a message that unless you are born special you can't succeed in the world, cry and you will get what you want, hard work be damned.

Discuss.
Between reading your thread and baby sitting a shark I'd drive a tank over both of them.
 

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This is another side effect of overload of uchiha, you get crappy fans who basically only like emo bishounens and flashy jutsus and dont care at all about the overall story
Knows nothing about my views on the manga and its characters @ comes up with a cool story as a counter while being too butthurt to withstand the truth. Typical Naruto fapboy :bdpf:
 

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One, Rock Lee isn't a fodder lol. Just cause he can't compare to the reincarnation of a God's grandson, doesn't mean that. Lee was never supposed to be a ninja, of course a prodigy from the strongest clan at the time (Senju were irrelevant by then) should be better than him. Are you implying that Sasuke didn't train his ass off as well?
What training did sasuke do to get sharing an copying, genjutsus, amaterasu, susanoo and rinnegan? That's his entire arsenal that makes him relevant otherwise he would be a chunnin level lower than rock lee
 

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I think he proved us that hardworking can be equal as talent.

We've seen Gai, Naruto SM, 3rd Raikage, Minatoi,Jirayia, Tobirama. Their hardworking brought succes against against Madara, Izuna, Kyuubi, 10kshinobi, Pein, Kurama. And none of them had these powers from birth.

And they were almost equal to Gifted power ones.
3rd Raikage? Minato? Jiraiya? Tobirama?

The **** are you smoking? They were all geniuses from birth.
 
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