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Why do everyone overhype the uchiha and presume they are the strongest? It's an established mangafact the Senju are superior.

During an era of war the two strongest clans often clashed, the Senju and Uchiha. However the Senju reigned supreme and everyone acknowledged this.

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This goes to show the sharingan isn't as powerful as most people hype it to be, they think sharingan abilities like precognition and genjutsu is overpowerd and unbeatable. The simple fact Senju >>> Uchiha proves how "overpowered" the uchiha actually were. Uchiha will always be second rate to the Senju. :sigar:

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Well yeah, the Senju are born with full extent of Asura's lineage. The Uchiha only start with the chakra, and may never have lived long enough, or had the means to reach EMS, or even MS.
 
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Well yeah, the Senju are born with full extent of Asura's lineage. The Uchiha only start with the chakra, and may never have lived long enough, or had the means to reach EMS, or even MS.
The senju weren't all born with superior bodies/life force. Only a select few were capable of superior bodies/chakra. Similar to how select few uchiha were capable of superior visual prowess/chakra. :sigar:
 

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Uchihas feared Hashirama, not the clan as a whole. Considering Senjus were getting killed by Kid Madara i wouldn't praise them much.
You think hashirama solo'd the uchiha by himself? Hashirama mostly fought only madara whilst tobirama solo'd izuna. The rest of the irrelevant senju fought the irrelevant uchiha, senju were superior.

It took five adult uchiha to kill hashirama's little brother, mangafact. :sigar:

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Why do everyone overhype the uchiha and presume they are the strongest? It's an established mangafact the Senju are superior.

During an era of war the two strongest clans often clashed, the Senju and Uchiha. However the Senju reigned supreme and everyone acknowledged this.

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This goes to show the sharingan isn't as powerful as most people hype it to be, they think sharingan abilities like precognition and genjutsu is overpowerd and unbeatable. The simple fact Senju >>> Uchiha proves how "overpowered" the uchiha actually were. Uchiha will always be second rate to the Senju. :sigar:

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Well honestly I would choose the Uchiha above the senju. But the thing is before we learned about hashirama and madara's past we always were shown that uchiha's were strong like Sasuke, Itachi, Shisui and madara. Also the Uchiha clan still was around when the senju clan went extinct so it is only natural for people to believe Uchiha's are the strongest. But since it is a manga fact that the senju won I would say the average senju is stronger than the uchiha but uchiha's have more and better prodigies that the senju can't keep up with.
 

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Well honestly I would choose the Uchiha above the senju. But the thing is before we learned about hashirama and madara's past we always were shown that uchiha's were strong like Sasuke, Itachi, Shisui and madara. Also the Uchiha clan still was around when the senju clan went extinct so it is only natural for people to believe Uchiha's are the strongest. But since it is a manga fact that the senju won I would say the average senju is stronger than the uchiha but uchiha's have more and better prodigies that the senju can't keep up with.
Well that simply isn't true. Ashura and Indra incarnates were always roughly equal give or take. The senju has some very powerful members also although since kishi mostly focus on the uchiha it only appears the way. Blame lack of development on the senju part and kishi favoring the uchiha.:sigar:
 

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Considering their relatives, their background and history, I'd say hype is well deserved.

Sharingan Precognition: Sharingan gives you the ability to predict movement the moment it is initiated, allowing you to plot and intercept it with ease.

Amaterasu: Sharingan gives you the ability to release of burst of undying flames with the blink of an eye

Genjutsu: Sharingan gives you the power to capture an Enemies mind in an instant, altering their sense of sight so that they see and feel what you want them too.

Susanoo: A nearly impenetrable armor that reflects almost all physical attacks, varying in different large shapes and sizes.

Thats a rudimentary list of abilities alone, not even mentioning those related to the Uchiha, like;

Itachi: Who developed elite skills and mastery at a very tender age. Who laid waste to a powerful clan of the renowned Uchiha. Whose Susanoo possesses a sword that can absorb and seal an entity, and whose shield can reflect all ninjutsu. Izanagi and Izanami (nuff said').

Madara: The first to show the "Perfect Susanoo" The last stage of an already powerful armor. He took control of the nine tails, and wrapped his Susanoo armor around it, therefore amplifying his already perfect and powerful Perfect Susanoo, that without the nine tails could already cut multiple mountains like they were flowers.

Shisui: Who could control any being without them even knowing they were being controlled.

Sasuke: Karin, CM2, PS and a lot of other abilities got him his hype. The general way he way he was portrayed in the anime got him his hype.

Obito: I don't even feel like listing everything anymore, you get the idea.

And on top of all of that, they're the direct lineage from an extremely powerful clan called the "Otsutsuki", who Kaguya was apart of, Kaguya the goddess of Shinobi.


Even if there were clans better than the Uchiha, even if Uchiha was the weakest and worse clan ever, given everything they're capable of, I would definitely say Fan hype is due.

We only wish we were capable of the things Uchiha pull off. Same for the Senju and Uzumaki, and Otsutsuki.






Even if you still want to argue "They're over-hyped", I would only say that given everything listed above, they deserve to be over-hyped.


It's not like people are going around just over-hyping people who don't deserve it. If Uchiha are being hyped so much, then theres an (obvious) reason. Not saying the Senju are weaker and don't deserve to be over-hyped. Just saying that the Uchiha earned this through all their capabilities and the characters who are Uchiha.
 
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Considering their relatives, their background and history, I'd say hype is well deserved.

Sharingan Precognition: Sharingan gives you the ability to predict movement the moment it is initiated, allowing you to plot and intercept it with ease.

Amaterasu: Sharingan gives you the ability to release of burst of undying flames with the blink of an eye

Genjutsu: Sharingan gives you the power to capture an Enemies mind in an instant, altering their sense of sight so that they see and feel what you want them too.

Susanoo: A nearly impenetrable armor that reflects almost all physical attacks, varying in different large shapes and sizes.

Thats a rudimentary list of abilities alone, not even mentioning those related to the Uchiha, like;

Itachi: Who developed elite skills and mastery at a very tender age. Who laid waste to a powerful clan of the renowned Uchiha. Whose Susanoo possesses a sword that can absorb and seal an entity, and whose shield can reflect all ninjutsu. Izanagi and Izanami (nuff said').

Madara: The first to show the "Perfect Susanoo" The last stage of an already powerful armor. He took control of the nine tails, and wrapped his Susanoo armor around it, therefore amplifying his already perfect and powerful Perfect Susanoo, that without the nine tails could already cut multiple mountains like they were flowers.

Shisui: Who could control any being without them even knowing they were being controlled.

Sasuke: Karin, CM2, PS and a lot of other abilities got him his hype. The general way he way he was portrayed in the anime got him his hype.

Obito: I don't even feel like listing everything anymore, you get the idea.

And on top of all of that, they're the direct lineage from an extremely powerful clan called the "Otsutsuki", who Kaguya was apart of, Kaguya the goddess of Shinobi.


Even if there were clans better than the Uchiha, even if Uchiha was the weakest and worse clan ever, given everything they're capable of, I would definitely say Fan hype is due.

We only wish we were capable of the things Uchiha pull off. Same for the Senju and Uzumaki, and Otsutsuki.
Case and point exactly. Note everything you listed but also note the senju were still superior. Kishi really should've developed the senju more, to combat that type of power required extreme skill/genius. Too bad we'll never know the true extent of the Senju/Uzumaki power, only that they were extremely skilled and powerful. :sigar:
 

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Well that simply isn't true. Ashura and Indra incarnates were always roughly equal give or take. The senju has some very powerful members also although since kishi mostly focus on the uchiha it only appears the way. Blame lack of development on the senju part and kishi favoring the uchiha.:sigar:
I don't think that is the reason. The average uchiha also didn't get much plot in naruto only the strong and leftovers. Like I said on average senju>uchiha but the best of the best Uchiha's>senju's but hey that is my opinion
 

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Case and point exactly. Note everything you listed but also note the senju were still superior. Kishi really should've developed the senju more, to combat that type of power required extreme skill/genius. Too bad we'll never know the true extent of the Senju/Uzumaki power, only that they were extremely skilled and powerful. :sigar:
Not saying that the Senju are weaker or aren't superior, Just trying to justify the reason for their hype.

It's about as obvious as the reason for Super Man's hype. It's because of all of their feats and capabilties.
 

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Honestly I think Uchiha become more powerful than the Senju after MS. Because Naruto and Sasuke would equal each other out anyway, but then that stopped when Sasuke reached EMS.

An adult Naruto with only SM vs MS/3T Adult Sasuke would more or less be somewhere near to each other.

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With Senju, they don't have any real Clan techniques. From that understanding they are able to stop the Uchiha with the techniques they learn in their life time. I would assume that would range from any category; Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, Kenjutsu, Genjutsu, and Iryojutsu.

My problem is that the Senju and the Senju only were capable of fighting the Uchiha, meaning what-ever they were learning, it was potent, and skillful. I would assume that what-ever a Senju had in their skill set, they were beyond the average. Tobirama was a master at Suiton, created many techniques, and had the original FTG. He is probably the most basic form of Senju we have outside of Tsunade, whom is also of Uzumaki descendant.

Still what stops the Senju from overall dominating them would be the EMS. Naruto needs the Kyuubi power, and the other Senju would just be dominated. Hashirama was the only known Senju capable of fighting a EMS Uchiha without any outside powers, and, he was dominating the Uchiha.

We will probably get a more balanced version of this in today's generation of Senju (Uzumaki Bolt) and Uchiha (Uchiha Salad). But, they aren't really 'rivals' like Naruto/Sasuke or Madara/Hashirama, and she's a female character. So maybe not after all :lol
 
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I don't think that is the reason. The average uchiha also didn't get much plot in naruto only the strong and leftovers. Like I said on average senju>uchiha but the best of the best Uchiha's>senju's but hey that is my opinion
Well the two most powerful senju hashirama and tobirama wrecked the two most powerful uchiha madara and izuna. However plot spared madara and the rest of the uchiha.

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Not saying that the Senju are weaker or aren't superior, Just trying to justify the reason for their hype.

It's about as obvious as the reason for Super Man's hype. It's because of all of their feats and capabilties.
I understand. I'm just saying the only reason uchiha receive so much hype is because kishi put them on a pedastool. :sigar:
 

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Honestly I think Uchiha becomes problems after MS. Because Naruto and Sasuke would equal each other out anyway, but then that stopped when Sasuke reached EMS.

An adult Naruto with only SM vs MS/3T Adult Sasuke would more or less be somewhere near to each other.

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With Senju, they don't have any real Clan techniques. From that understanding they are able to stop the Uchiha with the techniques they learn in their life time. I would assume that would range from any category; Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, Kenjutsu, Genjutsu, and Iryojutsu.

My problem is that the Senju and the Senju only were capable of fighting the Uchiha, meaning what-ever they were learning, it was potent, and skillful. I would assume that what-ever a Senju had in their skill set, they were beyond the average. Tobirama was a master at Suiton, created many techniques, and had the original FTG. He is probably the most basic form of Senju we have outside of Tsunade, whom is also of Uzumaki descendant.

Still what stops the Senju from overall dominating them would be the EMS. Naruto needs the Kyuubi power, and the other Senju would just be dominated. Hashirama was the only known Senju capable of fighting a EMS Uchiha without any outside powers, and, he was dominating the Uchiha.

We will probably get a more balanced version of this in today's generation of Senju (Uzumaki Bolt) and Uchiha (Uchiha Salad). But, they aren't really 'rivals' like Naruto/Sasuke or Madara/Hashirama, and she's a female character. So maybe not after all :lol
You have to keep in mind only select few uchiha ever awaked MS and even less EMS. Indra incarnates are always balanced out with ashura incarnates but for those rare genius like itachi you have people like Minato, whom mastered sage mode which falls under Ashura.

I agree though. :sigar:
 

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You have to keep in mind only select few uchiha ever awaked MS and even less EMS. Indra incarnates are always balanced out with ashura incarnates but for those rare genius like itachi you have people like Minato, whom mastered sage mode which falls under Ashura.

I agree though. :sigar:
I think the War-Era flash back, it was explained that many Uchiha had MS because of the large amount of failed attempts to reach EMS, according to Itachi.

But yeah, EMS was only achieved by Sasuke and Madara, whom were both Indra transmigrates.
 
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