Uchiha Hype!

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You think hashirama solo'd the uchiha by himself? Hashirama mostly fought only madara whilst tobirama solo'd izuna. The rest of the irrelevant senju fought the irrelevant uchiha, senju were superior.

It took five adult uchiha to kill hashirama's little brother, mangafact. :sigar:

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This! Will really do some rustling
 

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Uchiha and the Senju rivaled each other for many years before Hashirama was born and tipped the scale. The senju did end up becoming stronger at the end of their era and one thing for certain is no other clan could challenge them. This goes for the UChiha as well.
 

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Michael is something else. He uses Hashirama being stronger than Madara as a means of "establishing facts" about the Senju's supposed longtime superiority over the Uchiha, yet accounts of the Warring States Era have established actual facts that says the Senju only had that advantage once Hashirama was born and became a ninja. The Uchiha were able to fight each other without any outside force being able to do anything to take advantage of that, including the Senju.

And the funniest part about it is, before the day Izuna died, the battles between the 2 clans were largely undecided. That doesn't happen if one clan is that superior to the other.
I think the War-Era flash back, it was explained that many Uchiha had MS because of the large amount of failed attempts to reach EMS, according to Itachi.

But yeah, EMS was only achieved by Sasuke and Madara, whom were both Indra transmigrates.
actually, Itachi said Madara and Izuna were the first to have MS and that others before them were killing fellow clansmen trying to get it.
You think hashirama solo'd the uchiha by himself? Hashirama mostly fought only madara whilst tobirama solo'd izuna. The rest of the irrelevant senju fought the irrelevant uchiha, senju were superior.

It took five adult uchiha to kill hashirama's little brother, mangafact. :sigar:

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it takes a special kind of knucklehead to still believe it took all of those guys to kill Itama. The only Uchiha who even had their weapon drawn was the one with the scar on his face, so it's pretty clear that the others were simply there to intimidate the kid and that the guy with the scar was the one who actually did the deed. Since you want to talk about facts, show the panel where Hashirama had to go with 2 adults just to rescue Itama.
 
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Senju sucks. So, why did the Senju die out, and not the Uchiha? Uzumaki's are not Senju.

Only Hashirama and Madara were consider gods of their times. With Madara even admitting Hashirama is stronger. Tobirama was probably just a Kage level Shinobi and Izuna just had a OP MS Tech instead of Susano'o. After Hashirama's death the Senju probably fell apart.

Uchiha deserve the hype. They make the above average Shinobi's seem average. Uchiha's name alone is serious threat to the world.


The thing with Naruto and Sasuke, Sasuke does not admit Naruto is stronger than him. In fact, Naruto, even as Hokage, still praise Sasuke as being very power.
 
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^The Senju's didn't die out, they were forced out of plot. They all apparently disappeared the moment that Konohagakure was created.

Plus, Michael's point to this thread is how the Senju weren't capitalized on bar Hashirama/Tobirama (whom don't have any real Senju KKG/Clan techniques shared among each member) and still stomped the Uchiha Clan. If the entire Clan had just as much development as the Uchiha, it would have been a "gg"
 

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^The Senju's didn't die out, they were forced out of plot. They all apparently disappeared the moment that Konohagakure was created.

Plus, Michael's point to this thread is how the Senju weren't capitalized on bar Hashirama/Tobirama (whom don't have any real Senju KKG/Clan techniques shared among each member) and still stomped the Uchiha Clan. If the entire Clan had just as much development as the Uchiha, it would have been a "gg"
they didnt stomp the uchiha, hashiramas flashback obviously showed their battles were all tough, fighting day and night until the uchiha surrendered.

and yes they did die out otherwise we would have had heard about the whereabout of some their members, a clan can just magically dissappear especially one that were touted to be among the two strongest. at the end, uchihas outlived them and became stronger after hashiramas era.
 

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^The Senju's didn't die out, they were forced out of plot. They all apparently disappeared the moment that Konohagakure was created.

Plus, Michael's point to this thread is how the Senju weren't capitalized on bar Hashirama/Tobirama (whom don't have any real Senju KKG/Clan techniques shared among each member) and still stomped the Uchiha Clan. If the entire Clan had just as much development as the Uchiha, it would have been a "gg"
Bruh... Didn't Madara's Father ask his kid, if they could take on their Hashirama and his kids? Madara before he even obtained a fully develop Sharingan said he was stronger than most of the adults.

That's just bad writing, tbh.
 

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Bruh... Didn't Madara's Father ask his kid, if they could take on their Hashirama and his kids? Madara before he even obtained a fully develop Sharingan said he was stronger than most of the adults.

That's just bad writing, tbh.
Yeah smh. The power scaling was weird as fk. What's weird is that Madara/Hashirama barely had any known techniques outside of rock throwing :sdo:

they didnt stomp the uchiha, hashiramas flashback obviously showed their battles were all tough, fighting day and night until the uchiha surrendered.

and yes they did die out otherwise we would have had heard about the whereabout of some their members, a clan can just magically dissappear especially one that were touted to be among the two strongest. at the end, uchihas outlived them and became stronger after hashiramas era.
It said that the Senju were dominate in the Feudal Era. Plus, most of the Senju vs Uchiha battles always came into the Senju's favor

Madara v. Hashirama
Izuna v. Tobirama

- Only real Uchiha's vs Real Senju's -

Though I'm not saying the Senju didn't struggle. I'm just saying that's it is inconsistent as hell
 

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Nobody questioned the average Senju being superior to an average Uchiha - they won, after all. The clans at their strongest is definitely debatable, but that's not even the point - it's the Hyuuga that some people actually think are stronger than the Uchihas.

Average Senju>Average Uchiha>>Average Hyuuga.

Hashirama > Madara
Tobirama > Izuna


Kushina > Mikoto
Naruto = Sasuke

Boruto > Sarada
1. Neither Kushina nor Boruto are Senju, I thought we were past calling Uzumaki clan members Senju.

2. Mikoto was never confirmed to be an Uchiha by birth.

3. Where is Tsunade Senju that can't even beat Hebi Sasuke?
 

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1. Neither Kushina nor Boruto are Senju, I thought we were past calling Uzumaki clan members Senju.

2. Mikoto was never confirmed to be an Uchiha by birth.

3. Where is Tsunade Senju that can't even beat Hebi Sasuke?
I. I put the Uzumaki placeholders in stead of the missing Senju clansmen, since they don't exist currently outside of the whole "Uzumaki are distant cousins of the Senju". I thought it made sense to put them there, at least for the Asura purpose and the whole 'Senju v. Uchiha' nonsense Tobi/Obito was hyping after the Pain Arc.

II. True. However, the whole characteristics of the Uchiha Clan, at least when it pertains to the Madara/Izuna's fashion, seems to be strong in her genes (black hair, fair skin, etc.,). Still no proof so meh.

III. I didn't list Tsunade because there was no Uchiha in her age group. I listed them close to their generation.
 
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You mean Curse Mark enhanced Sasuke?



Someone who was skilled enough that Sasuke left the village because he was jealous.
Point 1: Against a Kyuubi Mode Naruto.

Point 2: How was that person skilled if he needed a monster to give him skill? And no, Itachi came back which finally drove Sasuke to the brink and made him take Orochimaru's offer.
 

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Point 1: Against a Kyuubi Mode Naruto.

Point 2: How was that person skilled if he needed a monster to give him skill? And no, Itachi came back which finally drove Sasuke to the brink and made him take Orochimaru's offer.
Nah, he was still thinking about Naruto. Did you not see the events prior to the hospital fight?

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Naruto had that nigga heated.
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Nah, he was still thinking about Naruto. Did you not see the events prior to the hospital fight?

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Naruto had that nigga heated.
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Yeah, sasuke was always jelly of Naruto and admitted so in vote. :sigar:

agree 1000%
Thanks buddy :)
 

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Many Uchiha could potentially awaken ms and they have secret techniques like Izanami and Izanagi, and the sharingan 3t is very powerful. So yes, they deserve their hype.

Yes, they lost the war against the Senju, bit this does not change anything.

The world knew that Madara lost against Hashirama in the Valley of the end, but it was still feared and considered a legend :)
 
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