Uchiha clan weak without others power

TemplarKnight

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It works both ways...the ones who hate the Mc ignore or try to downplay their favs also using outside sources to gain strength or team support in battle
I've never seen an Uchiha fan complain about outside powers, the only time we talk about it is when Naruto fans try to brag that Naruto is stronger than Sasuke, despite Naruto relying on outside powers all the time.
 

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I've never seen an Uchiha fan complain about outside powers, the only time we talk about it is when Naruto fans try to brag that Naruto is stronger than Sasuke, despite Naruto relying on outside powers all the time.
Yes, complain about someone using outside powers being said to be stronger than your fav who was also using outside powers:|

neither side should be trying to play the victim card is all I'm saying:bdpf:
 

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Lets face the facts Uchiha´s relying on their own power are nothing special or OP.

-Only few among them awakens Sharingan.

-Almost entire Uciha clan is killed by teen Itachi.

Now what about Madara,Obito and Sasuke.How strong would they be without others power.

Obito :

- He would be dead without Hashirama Senju dna power

- Without same power he would turn blind from MS

Sasuke :

- Without Indra Otsutsuki chakra his chakra is nothing but little above average.

- Without Curse Mark from Orochimaru he was nothing special .

- Hagoromo power makes him what he is now.

Madara :

- Without Indra chakra he also wouldn´t be anything OP.

- Without Hashi Dna he would be irrelevant.

Conclusion :

Without others powers there isn´t anything that makes them way superior to other clans like Senju,Hyuga ,... And only trully strong Uchiha who didn´t have others power is Itachi
Clan doesnt matter. Hashirama also has Ashura's chakra. What is more important is the character and not its clan. Obito has Kamui and was invincible for that. Dont think a Hyuga can give fight to Minato ir Hashirama.
 

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Enough

Sasuke without curse mark was still op , your foolish , Sasuke is genius , he was born to excel.. his pain empowered him, what he went through is why he was so brilliant, because he could endure
 
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lol im done with you
He's kind of right, Ashura wasn't a Jin when he beat/tied with Indra. Without Kurama the authors would have just given Naruto something else to compensate for the power needed to beat/tie with Sasuke. Like his Sage Mode would have obviously got an upgrade strong enough to contend with Sasuke.

Now if you want to take the scenario and say Madara took the entire Juubi and Naruto was left with just RSM within the confines of the given plot, then yes, Sasuke would be stronger.

That being said, it is Naruto's manga. Sasuke was never set to win in this. Tie sure. But win? No. It isn't called Sasuke.
 
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