Uchiha clan weak without others power

[ninjarasengan]

A rinnesharingan does not exist in the manga, there's only been 3 doujutsus. Byukagan, sharingan, and Rinnegan.
All you have is this fan-made translation of yours, I'm talking strictly manga and manga only. So you can't tie manga logic to unofficial translations to prove your point, that's a speculation.

Because the rinnegan chakra that is known to be part of hagoromoo's started from Kaguya herself. Chakra is the key here not doujutsu.


1. That is the official translation, so yes the whole thing was a guess. Hence why he said probably.
2. Unlike Hagormoo, Sasuke's never seen or countered IT before. So of course he doesn't know who is casting it. But Hagormoo is Kaguya's mother, he knows her powers, jutsus, chakra (since he's half of it) and he knows how to undo Infinite Tsukuyomi.

So of course he knows it's a sharingan. Just like he specifically stated that you need the rinnegan and biju chakra to break that IT that was casted by her sharingan. And the question arrives in who are you to question Hagoromoo, the overseer of the whole series? That's like you questioning black zetsu if hagormoo and hamura did seal kaguay up since Hagormoo never said he sealed his mom up with his brother when meeting naruto and sasuke.



I'll leave that to the official people who are licensed and paid instead of someone who's not.
I don't have to believe what your translations, I rather receive it from the author himself.

So if Madara used a Infinite Tsykuyomi on Obito with a sharingan, why are you denying Kaguya the same? Since you know a sharingan can be used for IT just as much as a rinnegan can be used for IT. What does that tell you already?

It's possible that it was a retcon.

1-The people under IT reflected Rinnegan patterns in their eyes
2-Sasuke called it Rinnegan Genjusu...the doubt was only on whether a Rinnegan could break it.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

You said only the chakra matters. If the RinneSharingan has Sharingan powers (and it would since the Sharingan came from it as you said), then it'd be able to use Sharingan powers. Sasuke's Rinnegan can use genjutsu and it's not a Sharingan.

You don't know what powers a rinnesharingan possesses because it doesn't exist in the manga. You don't have a history or explanation on what it does in the manga like the byukagan, sharingan, and rinnegan.
You don't know what powers this rinnesharingan has and does not have. Didn't you just agreed that the manga did not say she has a rinnegan.

Sasuke used amatersu with his left rinnegan eye, so what's your point? You don't know what feat that was and I try to stay away from it as much as I can.

Her "ocular powers" is referring to the Byakugan and Sharingan power he was prior talking about.

Which Hagormoo just said casted the genjutsu Infinte Tsukuyomi

Not really. She's never used Rinnegan powers, so even if the eye did grant such, Hagoromo definitely wouldn't mention it.

Then why are you calling it a rinnesharingan if she never used rinnegan powers?

You're saying only native speakers of any language can use the Databook in that language? That if your second language was English and you weren't born in any native English-speaking country, then you wouldn't be able to use the English Databook if it existed?

Didn't say speaker, but (literate)writer more like it. I'll take what the native writer says over the person that isn't any day of the week if it literally contradicts what they put down on paper.
Kishi's manga says sharingan and never mentioned a "rinnesharingan." You said it's not a sharingan but a rinnesharingan because that's what you read in the raw text databook.

Do you now see where I'm coming from?

 

[Holy God]

You don't know what powers a rinnesharingan possesses because it doesn't exist in the manga. You don't have a history or explanation on what it does in the manga like the byukagan, sharingan, and rinnegan.
You don't know what powers this rinnesharingan has and does not have. Didn't you just agreed that the manga did not say she has a rinnegan.

Sasuke used amatersu with his left rinnegan eye, so what's your point? You don't know what feat that was and I try to stay away from it as much as I can.

If the eye is a RinneSharingan, then Hagoromo just told us what kind of powers it has (Sharingan powers). I agreed that it may not have Rinnegan powers, not that the manga doesn't call it a Rinnegan (which I find still irrelevant). The fact that Sasuke used genjutsu with a Rinnegan throws your argument that only the Sharingan can out of the window. The fact that Sasuke used Sharingan powers with his Rinnegan, and the fact that you already said only chakra matters, proves her third eye does not have to be a Sharingan.

Which Hagormoo just said casted the genjutsu Infinte Tsukuyomi

That just implies Infinite Tsukuyomi is a "Sharingan power".

Then why are you calling it a rinnesharingan if she never used rinnegan powers?

What does her using Rinnegan powers have to do with the eye? I didn't say the RinneSharingan had Rinnegan powers.

Didn't say speaker, but (literate)writer more like it. I'll take what the native writer says over the person that isn't any day of the week if it literally contradicts what they put down on paper.
Kishi's manga says sharingan and never mentioned a "rinnesharingan." You said it's not a sharingan but a rinnesharingan because that's what you read in the raw text databook.

Do you now see where I'm coming from?

But that's not contradiction, because everyone else knows he said the eye has Sharingan powers, not that it is a Sharingan. On the other hand, what about the times where VIZ has contradicted the Japanese?

 

[Mellanoma]

Props for respecting the Solo King Tauren

The only Uchiha legend without free power ups

 

[FemmeFatale]

Fire jutsu from one uchiha worried the 5 Kage, a whole Clan of them is deadly

 

[ninjarasengan]

Fire jutsu from one uchiha worried the 5 Kage, a whole Clan of them is deadly

Didn't Mei rek that fire Jutsu?

 

[FemmeFatale]

Didn't Mei rek that fire Jutsu?

She could've but Wasn't fast enough, and Mei isn't a normal Shinobi. Mei was around Tobirama level of water jutsu, able to make large pools without a source of water.
Tsuande the Senju rekt Madara's fire though with brute force

 

[ninjarasengan]

She could've but Wasn't fast enough, and Mei isn't a normal Shinobi. Mei was around Tobirama level of water jutsu, able to make large pools without a source of water.
Tsuande the Senju rekt Madara's fire though with brute force

Rather than not being fast enough...wasn't she knocked out by the pollen from wood release flower tree world?...and later she went on to neg dif that fire justu, stopping it from hitting Tsunade. Madara also wasn't a representative of a normal Uchiha.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

If the eye is a RinneSharingan, then Hagoromo just told us what kind of powers it has (Sharingan powers). I agreed that it may not have Rinnegan powers, not that the manga doesn't call it a Rinnegan (which I find still irrelevant). The fact that Sasuke used genjutsu with a Rinnegan throws your argument that only the Sharingan can out of the window. The fact that Sasuke used Sharingan powers with his Rinnegan, and the fact that you already said only chakra matters, proves her third eye does not have to be a Sharingan.

So does that mean Sasuke has a sharrinnegan now? Just because he used his susanoo, genjutsu, and mangekyo power through his rinnegan eye doesn't mean it changes automatically to a rinnegan feat. That's a horrible comparison to and it further proved my point if anything.
So just because you have a change in chakra does not mean your doujutsu itself becomes something else. Otherwise we'd be calling Tobi/Dms kakashi's sharingan a sharinne or something, so Kaguya's eye the sharingan still remains a sharingan regardless.

That just implies Infinite Tsukuyomi is a "Sharingan power".

Exactly, that ocular power. :lol

What does her using Rinnegan powers have to do with the eye? I didn't say the RinneSharingan had Rinnegan powers

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It does when the word "rinne" is in front of a doujutsu or doujutsu ability.

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But that's not contradiction, because everyone else knows he said the eye has Sharingan powers, not that it is a Sharingan. On the other hand, what about the times where VIZ has contradicted the Japanese?

He said she has a sharingan power and he said that ocular power. There's no confusing that it's a sharingan.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

the average uchiha no,

That true but doesn't matter when your leader can blow up an entire Mountain with a swinger with sword how awesome do you really have to be

 

[HokageKid]

People always like to talk smack about stuff like this, but the same people ignore the fact that Naruto relied on the Nine tails' chakra for every fight he ever won, with the exception of Kiba in the Chunin exams, and Kakuzu, who even then he had back up and Kakuza had already been fighting and lost some hearts...

 

[TemplarKnight]

People always like to talk smack about stuff like this, but the same people ignore the fact that Naruto relied on the Nine tails' chakra for every fight he ever won, with the exception of Kiba in the Chunin exams, and Kakuzu, who even then he had back up and Kakuza had already been fighting and lost some hearts...

Shutup, Naruto is the MC and won the hearts of the fanbase therefore logic no longer applies to him but applies to the people that fans of the MC hate. Didn't you know it worked that way? Shut your mouth and conform.

 

[Warlocks]

Senju always raped them

edo madara with rinnagan+hasishi power still lost to edo hashi :lol

edo hashi >edo madara with rinnagan+hasishi power

 

[Warlocks]

She's never used Rinnegan powers, so even if the eye did grant such, Hagoromo definitely wouldn't mention it.

she absorb sasuke attack

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it could be Preta Path

 

[TheAssasin]

uchihas arent so special anyway if not for their doujutsu. so no matter what normal shinobis without such visual prowess are stronger ninjas

 

[TemplarKnight]

uchihas arent so special anyway if not for their doujutsu. so no matter what normal shinobis without such visual prowess are stronger ninjas

Sorry but their dojutsu, a natural ability which is theirs by birthright, makes them stronger. Suck it up

 

[TheAssasin]

Sorry but their dojutsu, a natural ability which is theirs by birthright, makes them stronger. Suck it up

thats not true strength when you keep relying on a red eye to keep giving you all the power and get blind by the minute

 

[ninjarasengan]

People always like to talk smack about stuff like this, but the same people ignore the fact that Naruto relied on the Nine tails' chakra for every fight he ever won, with the exception of Kiba in the Chunin exams, and Kakuzu, who even then he had back up and Kakuza had already been fighting and lost some hearts...

Shutup, Naruto is the MC and won the hearts of the fanbase therefore logic no longer applies to him but applies to the people that fans of the MC hate. Didn't you know it worked that way? Shut your mouth and conform.

It works both ways...the ones who hate the Mc ignore or try to downplay their favs also using outside sources to gain strength or team support in battle

 

[Warlocks]

She's never used Rinnegan powers, so even if the eye did grant such, Hagoromo definitely wouldn't mention it.

she did absorb sasuke attack

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it could be Preta Path

 

[Made in Heaven]

Sorry but their dojutsu, a natural ability which is theirs by birthright, makes them stronger. Suck it up

Must be why Uchiha fans cry about Kaguya, Hamura, and Toneri being far above the only Ootsutsuki with Sharingan, Indra. Or Sasuke/Madara for that matter.