Uchiha clan vs hyuuga clan

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Uchihas are as strong as the senjus, that was what the manga said, not that they are the strongest clan.
At the time of the massacre there were no senju around. The only senju tsuande was somewhere else. Again as the manga at that time, the uchiha were the strongest. Only after the massacre did that title got passed to the hyugan
 

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Why did you claim uzumaki > uchiha
Uzumaki long life force and sealing tech that could seal bijuu.
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through out history senju have been beating the Uchiha since the two brothers time, only time they drew was when they both signed the peace treaty.

Hahsirama > Madara

Younger Son > Older Son of the sage

Older son of the sage was the ancestor of both Uzumaki and senju.
 

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thats because ur actually talking with someone who looks at the manga logically.

Unfortuately kishi's work is wasted on most fanboys that cant just look at somethign for what it is.
makes sense
like the other one about prime 3rd can beat minato
when i never seen the 3rd in prime..only prime ive seen is when the 2nd awarded him hokage
 

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At the time of the massacre there were no senju around. The only senju tsuande was somewhere else. Again as the manga at that time, the uchiha were the strongest. Only after the massacre did that title got passed to the hyugan
Am sure there were Senju around other then Tsunade.

It's just harder to tell who was a Senju because they don't posses eyes that set them apart from other clans.
 

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Well first off, it was stated in the manga that the uchiha clan was the strongest clan in the village before the massacre.

However, uchiha's were not only known for their sharingan, but being natural adept at battle and having naturally powerful chakra. The only thing that I see going for the hyuga's over the uchiha is that its shown that every hyuga awakens a byakugan no matter what the age or circumstance, whereas its not guaranteed for an uchiha to awaken a sharingan, and even after they awaken it, the sharingan must mature in order to reach the three tomoe stage.
 

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Uzumaki long life force and sealing tech that could seal bijuu.
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through out history senju have been beating the Uchiha since the two brothers time, only time they drew was when they both signed the peace treaty.

Hahsirama > Madara

Younger Son > Older Son of the sage

Older son of the sage was the ancestor of both Uzumaki and senju.
I think this is the first time ive disagreed with you.

Firstly what does having a long life and sealing techs that can seal bijuu's have to do with combat. As i said and its been said in the manga only the uchiha's were the senju's equal.

Unless you can link me a page where it puts the uzumaki in this category.

Again we need more info on the hashirama, madara fight. As for where you got younger son> older son from, im not sure. What i do know is that the sage chose him because of his idea of peace
 

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I think this is the first time ive disagreed with you.

Firstly what does having a long life and sealing techs that can seal bijuu's have to do with combat. As i said and its been said in the manga only the uchiha's were the senju's equal.

Unless you can link me a page where it puts the uzumaki in this category.

Again we need more info on the hashirama, madara fight. As for where you got younger son> older son from, im not sure. What i do know is that the sage chose him because of his idea of peace
I know lol it feels kinda awkward disagreeing with u

You got me there partner but I always think of Senju and Uzumaki has a single unit or tribe (I know it's kinda wrong)

but in terms of combat Senju = Uchiha overall even though Hashirama > Madara (until further proof can be given)

But maybe the reason why the Uzumaki were not placed in the same category has the senju and Uchiha were bec maybe they were few in number but they had very powerful warriors.
 
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Tobi is a liar so we can't take his words for proof and

I said that Nagato was the best rinnegan user after the sage of 6 paths.
no madara is going to be the best with rennigan an will be the best.nagato eyes wer giving to him get it right. uchiha over all clans cuz they will be the strongest.
 

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The average Hyuuga is stronger than the average Uchiha.
The Byakugan is stronger than the initial 3-tomoe Sharingan.

Not all Uchiha unlock the MS so that doesn't factor into this clan battle.
In a clan versus clan fight, the Hyuuga would win.
 

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not all byakugan are the same so the 3 tomoe sharingan should be bether than some of the byakugan also the uchiha were going to take over the village if they weren't strong they wouldn't even be thinking of it also the uchiha and the hyuuga were from the same village so the uchiha must'ev known how to fight the hyuga and in that time they had atleast if itachi wasn't loyal to the clan,thay had MS Shisui who was also very strong
 

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Nagato's eyes are OBVIOUSLY transplanted.... he can't turn them off... even when he died they remained on.... they just can't come off... -_- ,

Look at a true heir to the Rinnegan -Madara, he can turn from sharingan- ems- rinnegan, take it off when he pleases.....Nagato is a kakashi , transplanted and can use it good
hey yeah, i guess they would have to be transplanted but it may not be from Tobi that he got them from, I dont understand why he would want to give them away.
 

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The average Hyuuga is stronger than the average Uchiha.
The Byakugan is stronger than the initial 3-tomoe Sharingan.

Not all Uchiha unlock the MS so that doesn't factor into this clan battle.
In a clan versus clan fight, the Hyuuga would win.
Agreed :)
there was only like 3 people who unlocked MS in that generation, shishu, itachi and then finally sasuke. Im sure there might be some byakugan users who have excelled in it like the uchiha sharigan.
 

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Senju and Uzumaki > >>>> Uchiha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hyuuga

my reasoning 3 tomoe sharingan > Byakugan
*cough*fanboy*cough* Dude the Hyuuga would win in a all out clan fight but Sneju and Uzumaki are equal to Sharingan as stated multiple times Sasuke and Naruto are equals... But usually in the end the good guys win which is why Naruto will beat Sasuke or bring him back to break the cycle
 

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Isn't there an other thread with the exact same subject?
well, I'll answer the same thing as on the other one. Sharingan>Byakugan...
 
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