u must see difference between lent eyes and bijuu

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Smh. This is like putting all their power like if naruto didnt have so and so he'd lose to sasuke. Well if sasuke didnt have ms he wouldnt be able to beat normal naruto. Without orochimaru's curse mark sasuke would of had to stay at the village. If we're talking earned power.
I think naruto is stronger untill we see anything from sasuke on the level of 6 TBBRS. Let alone any feats to show he can tank even one. And if the tailed beasts could leave then they would be considered separate, they are one entity with naruto.
Don't bother, the guy is obviously a sasuke fanboy/naruto h8er
 

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I think naruto is stronger untill we see anything from sasuke on the level of 6 TBBRS. Let alone any feats to show he count tank even one.
No, Sasuke seems to be able to use a genjutsu as strong as IT as he's the one who can cancel it.

He easily avoids the Resenshurikens and he could easily blitz Naruto with his rinnegan. Not too mention that Sasuke could fly and his PS slashes are faster than Naruto's tbb rasenshuriken.

And as for SamManzo, no this is just saying that the beasts power is not Naruto's power.
 

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No, Sasuke seems to be able to use a genjutsu as strong as IT as he's the one who can cancel it.

He easily avoids the Resenshurikens and he could easily blitz Naruto with his rinnegan. Not too mention that Sasuke could fly and his PS slashes are faster than Naruto's tbb rasenshuriken.

And as for SamManzo, no this is just saying that the beasts power is not Naruto's power.
He easily avoids the rasenshurikens?
One BDRS is bigger than Sasuke's PS. Imagine 5 of them coming at him at different angles.
And it's actually extremely difficult to blitz someone in SM.
 

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Right, just because you people think it's an insult if Naruto needs help in his fights I suddenly hate Naruto.
I read your nonsense, couldn't even take you seriously. The bijuu are a part of naruto like itachi's eyes are now a part of sasuke.

It's his power so get over it.
 

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I read your nonsense, couldn't even take you seriously. The bijuu are a part of naruto like itachi's eyes are now a part of sasuke.

It's his power so get over it.
They aren't, unless you can show me a scan of Sasuke asking his eyes for power.

Because last time I checked, only living beings could be asked for something.
 

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I read your nonsense, couldn't even take you seriously. The bijuu are a part of naruto like itachi's eyes are now a part of sasuke.

It's his power so get over it.
No they are not. An eye is a tool, a Bijuu isn't. It's a thinking and real entity. If someone doesn't even understand the differenve between entities and non-entities then they have huge problems. The thread maker is correct and so is the guy you are vehemently and pointlessly arguing with.

The irony in your comments though.
 

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No, Sasuke seems to be able to use a genjutsu as strong as IT as he's the one who can cancel it.

He easily avoids the Resenshurikens and he could easily blitz Naruto with his rinnegan. Not too mention that Sasuke could fly and his PS slashes are faster than Naruto's tbb rasenshuriken.

And as for SamManzo, no this is just saying that the beasts power is not Naruto's power.
5 shadow clones each run in different directions, then each throws 3 homing TBBRS at sasuke. The explosions are far, far larger than sasukes teleport range. Its actually a kinda simple victory until sasuke gets more powerups :/
 

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They aren't, unless you can show me a scan of Sasuke asking his eyes for power.
Lmfao so because naruto asks for a part of his power it doesn't mean it's his anymore? What sh*t logic.

Sasuke wanted obito to implant the eyes. Without obito sasuke wouldnt have his power so sasuke needs obito's help to awaken EMS. [ ]

Because last time I checked, only living beings could be asked for something.
& Last time I checked, having something living inside of you means absolutely nothing to anyone other than you & your convoluted logic.

Thus, you're a simple sasuke fapboy.

No they are not. An eye is a tool, a Bijuu isn't.
Laughable, so because a bijuu is alive it's not used as a tool to make naurto stronger? Okay believe whatever you want but know that your definition of "tool" is highly subjective.
 
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No they are not. An eye is a tool, a Bijuu isn't. It's a thinking and real entity. If someone doesn't even understand the differenve between entities and non-entities then they have huge problems. The thread maker is correct and so is the guy you are vehemently and pointlessly arguing with.

The irony in your comments though.
Would naruto be as weak without bijuu as sasuke without itachi?
 

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Naruto is not solely using the tailed beast power. He is using his own chakra combined with theirs so technically speaking his power is equally dependent upon his own natural abilities in conjuncture with the tailed beast power. There naruto power = natural power + tailed beast just like sasuke = natural eyes + foreign.
 

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Would naruto be as weak without bijuu as sasuke without itachi?
No KCM and BM, no Kurama's chakra leaking and mixing into his own for large scale clones and Rasangans. Just SM that will deplete him with 3 FRS.

Sasuke without Itachi is reduced to 3T and CS. Definitely stronger than Naruto.
 

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Laughable, so because a bijuu is alive it's not used as a tool to make naurto stronger? Okay believe whatever you want but know that your definition of "tool" is highly subjective.
Within the context of the manga, a Bijuu can never be a tool. Explain this subjectivity to me please. So far, it's quite funny.
 

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No KCM and BM, no Kurama's chakra leaking and mixing into his own for large scale clones and Rasangans. Just SM that will deplete him with 3 FRS.

Sasuke without Itachi is reduced to 3T and CS. Definitely stronger than Naruto.
Sasuke without itachi is blind

Naruto without his tailed beast still has bijuu level chakra and sage mode.

Not much of a discussion.
 

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Within the context of the manga, a Bijuu can never be a tool. Explain this subjectivity to me please. So far, it's quite funny.
I'm glad you're having a laugh, because just seeing you in every single sasuke thread gives me that same amusement, even when it's obvious that the OP is a blatant fanboy.

Within the context of the manga? Sorry but that doesn't mean anything. A tool is a tool, whether it's alive or not is irrelevant so bringing that fact into your logic is what makes your definition subjective.
 

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Lmfao so because naruto asks for a part of his power it doesn't mean it's his anymore? What sh*t logic.

Sasuke wanted obito to implant the eyes. Without obito sasuke wouldnt have his power so sasuke needs obito's help to awaken EMS. [ ]



& Last time I checked, having something living inside of you means absolutely nothing to anyone other than you & your convoluted logic.

Thus, you're a simple sasuke fapboy.



Laughable, so because a bijuu is alive it's not used as a tool to make naurto stronger? Okay believe whatever you want but know that your definition of "tool" is highly subjective.
You can't be serious.

Naruto himself says that Kurama and him work together and you still deny that they do and say it's only Naruto's doing? That is smh worthy.

You going back to the Obito thing is faulty logic.

Why don't I say that it's thanks to killer Bee that Naruto learned to gain KCM? Better yet, why don't I say that if it wasn't for Jiraiya Naruto wouldn't have Rasengan.

Naruto asks every single time he uses a jutsu, because it's not his. He can't use it again unless the bijuus lend him their chakra.

And your whole tool argument goes against Naruto's way entirely.
Madara used the beasts as a tool, Naruto works with them.
 

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Sasuke has a dojutsu that lets him read chakra forms & chakra flow of opponents, read his opponents every move even before they know themselves, mimic & memorise ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu with near-perfect accuracy. He can even control tailed beast with them, a user can have zero skill & still be formidable. When you roll all that in one person its not much different from having a kyubbi sealed in you.
 
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