u must see difference between lent eyes and bijuu

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Well if sasuke fans have to put restrictions on naruto to make sasuke equal thats fine with me.

But in manga, naruto (with his 9 bijuu's) > sasuke

All that matters is the ">" :)
 

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you all say that sasukes like naruto because he took itachis eyes its different the eyes is like a new jutsu chidori, or rasengan these are things that they was given but a bijuu is a living thing inside naruto that constantly gives him power if sussano was alive id say the same abnout sasuke.

but sussano cant speak and give ideas to help neither can it give chakra when sasukes out +naruto has nine of them and hes still =with sasuke

P.S naruto is strong without bijju and probably has alot more chakra now

We know that already
 

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Tame? All I saw Naruto do was ask them to be friends no real taming involved. The main difference is that the power doesn't belong to Naruto and never will. The beast reside in Naruto and give him power.

Yes please go ahead and place labels on your favorite gifs. Your browsing history must be shameful for you guys to go out your way to find things like this. The fact you guys take enjoyment and pride yourselves must show you're either infatuated with Sasuke fans like myself or you guys are secretly stuck in the closet.
It is Naruto power and that because he can use it. Having power and being able to properly use it are 2 different things. The manga has made it clear that skills are required to use tail beast power, but i guess you will never understand that because the eyes's doesn't require that. It automatically gives the user power/jutsu and doesn't require any skill or training to use it.
 

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It is Naruto power and that because he can use it. Having power and being able to properly use it are 2 different things. The manga has made it clear that skills are required to use tail beast power, but i guess you will never understand that because the eyes's doesn't require that. It automatically gives the user power/jutsu and doesn't require any skill or training to use it.
Naruto using tail beast's power, tail beasts' power

Unless you saying naruto doesn't use tail beast power except his own
 

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Yeah, they're not the same.

Just like people don't consider Edo tensei to be someones power, this is similar.
Only this has more things backing it up, like Naruto explicitly asking for the Bijuu's to help him.

Saying that the Bijuus are his power, or are his power-up is like saying that the shadow shuriken (Naruto) Sasuke threw is his power because he threw it.

I mean Sasuke was the one who used it right? Does that mean that he can do it again without the help of Naruto? No, and it's obvious.

It's the same concept with the Bijuus. Naruto can't do it without them meaning that it's not his power and it's multiple entities cooperating.
 

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Naruto fought his whole life to prove to the nine tails was worthy. Sasuke spammed ms techniques until he was more worthless than sakura and had to take itachis eyes. Naruto fought, defeated and earned the power of each tailed beast. If you don't take this logic you're sasky fanboy.
 

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Yeah, they're not the same.
Just like people don't consider Edo tensei to be someones power, this is similar.
Only this has more things backing it up, like Naruto explicitly asking for the Bijuu's to help him.

Saying that the Bijuus are his power, or are his power-up is like saying that the shadow shuriken (Naruto) Sasuke threw is his power because he threw it.

I mean Sasuke was the one who used it right? Does that mean that he can do it again without the help of Naruto? No, and it's obvious.

It's the same concept with the Bijuus. Naruto can't do it without them meaning that it's not his power and it's multiple entities cooperating.
So if sasuke tried to use perfect susanoo without the help of itachi's eyes he could do it? Didn't think so.
 

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Naruto fought his whole life to prove to the nine tails was worthy. Sasuke spammed ms techniques until he was more worthless than sakura and had to take itachis eyes. Naruto fought, defeated and earned the power of each tailed beast. If you don't take this logic you're sasky fanboy.
Lo|, ok. So then Orochimaru is part of Sasuke's power?

I mean he earned his respect and everything right? Hey, Orochimaru even said that he wants to do what Sasuke wills.
 

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Lo|, ok. So then Orochimaru is part of Sasuke's power?

I mean he earned his respect and everything right? Hey, Orochimaru even said that he wants to do what Sasuke wills.
Orochimaru was the only power he had for a long time via curse mark. But, no. He literally defeated the kyuubi to GAIN his power. It became narutos own power when he took the chakra and controlled it for himself. The only time its the kyuubis power is when the kyuubi takes over naruto. Which hasnt happened during this whole war. Good game tho.
 

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So if sasuke tried to use perfect susanoo without the help of itachi's eyes he could do it? Didn't think so.
You can compare what you said to chidori or Rasengan. They're things that they took, or learned, but can now use it at any time they please.

Don't compare it to living beings that Naruto has to ask for help.
 

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You can compare what you said to chidori or Rasengan. They're things that they took, or learned, but can now use it at any time they please.

Don't compare it to living beings that Naruto has to ask for help.
Well then chakra isnt anyones power. Its the ten tails / shinjus power. So everyone nullified then? GOOD GAME.
 

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Orochimaru was the only power he had for a long time via curse mark. But, no. He literally defeated the kyuubi to GAIN his power. It became narutos own power when he took the chakra and controlled it for himself. The only time its the kyuubis power is when the kyuubi takes over naruto. Which hasnt happened during this whole war. Good game tho.
Exactly, yoy get it, but not fully.

KCM is Naruto's power because he took it and does not need Kurama's help. Hence it's his and he doesn't need to ask for the chakra.

See that's like EMS and their current power up. BM and any other technique where Naruto has to ask, or uses the power of the Bijuus is not his.

Just like Orochimaru is not part of Sasuke's arsenal simply because he's "friends" with Sasuke.
 

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You can compare what you said to chidori or Rasengan. They're things that they took, or learned, but can now use it at any time they please.

Don't compare it to living beings that Naruto has to ask for help.
How is taking someone elses eyes comparable to learning rasengan or chidori? Without itachi, sasuke lost his MS in a few hours. Its a stolen power, similar to narutos KCM mode.

Either way naruto has all the tailed beasts fighting within him, and he is > current sasuke because of it. They will be considered a part of naruto in any vs discussion.
 

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How is taking someone elses eyes comparable to learning rasengan or chidori? Without itachi, sasuke lost his MS in a few hours. Its a stolen power, similar to narutos KCM mode.

Either way naruto has all the tailed beasts fighting within him, and he is > current sasuke because of it. They will be considered a part of naruto in any vs discussion.
EMS is similar to KCM, and I agree with that.

Naruto with 9 other characters helping him is equal to Sasuke.
 

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EMS is similar to KCM, and I agree with that.

Naruto with 9 other characters helping him is equal to Sasuke.
Smh. This is like putting all their power like if naruto didnt have so and so he'd lose to sasuke. Well if sasuke didnt have ms he wouldnt be able to beat normal naruto. Without orochimaru's curse mark sasuke would of had to stay at the village. If we're talking earned power.
 

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EMS is similar to KCM, and I agree with that.

Naruto with 9 other characters helping him is equal to Sasuke.
I think naruto is stronger untill we see anything from sasuke on the level of 6 TBBRS. Let alone any feats to show he can tank even one. And if the tailed beasts could leave then they would be considered separate, they are one entity with naruto.
 
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