[VS] Tsunade vs Kisame

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yeah i think kisame takes this high diff for reasons previously stated...the main way for him to win would be super water shark bomb sucking out katsuyu's chakra, and kisame using samehada and water dome together to steal tsunades chakra. tsunade uses chakra to amplify her strength dramatically, and without it she cannot heal herself nor attack as strong. also, she is a solely close range fighter and kisame would simply outlast her, especially in water.
 
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How are we debating this, tsunade gets stomped. Most of her moves are chakra based and her movements are sluggish. Its like absorbing chakra from gaaras sand, once absorbed its just sand. The same principle is applied here. Once the chakra gets absorbed from her punches, its a normal punch. But I don't think kisames a gambler. So while she is fighting, he drains her chakra with samehada and he also has long ranged jutsu. Water dome is too much for her so kisame takes this mid
 

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Kisame mid-diff.
All her CES attacks will be rendered useless, the same happens to BPD. Water Dome would be her ultimate downfall.
 

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Kabuto Hiruzen Itachi Danzou Obito Deidara...
any of them can beat any of the sannin...
Kabuto, Itachi and Obito can solo them

Itachi is comparable with a single Sannin, all three together stomp him. Hiruzen will NEVER beat any of them. He just sucks. And don't bring you "Prime Hiruzen" because he only exists in hype. It could be that we'll see more from him in the future but currently he is the weakest kage. Even Mei could take him.
I don't see Deidara beating Orochimaru.

And you are the one who's annoying.
 

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Itachi is comparable with a single Sannin, all three together stomp him. Hiruzen will NEVER beat any of them. He just sucks. And don't bring you "Prime Hiruzen" because he only exists in hype. It could be that we'll see more from him in the future but currently he is the weakest kage. Even Mei could take him.
I don't see Deidara beating Orochimaru.

And you are the one who's annoying.

ha ha ah LOL! Hiruzen? weak? HA HA HA

he just owned Oro with two edos. thats called a feat!
 

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Itachi is comparable with a single Sannin, all three together stomp him. Hiruzen will NEVER beat any of them. He just sucks. And don't bring you "Prime Hiruzen" because he only exists in hype. It could be that we'll see more from him in the future but currently he is the weakest kage. Even Mei could take him.
I don't see Deidara beating Orochimaru.

And you are the one who's annoying.

Itachi can solo them
sorry but this is the truth
Amaterasu for Jiraiya, Tsukuyomi for Orochimaru, Totsuka for Tsunade
as simple as that
their attacks will be dodged (since Itachi is faster - databook fact) or blocked with yata

prime Hiruzen exist and he's stronger than Oro - databook fact

when Deidara gets in the air it's over... only Hyuuga Neji 18 and KillerMongoose think Orochimaru can beat Deidara (and maybe some further Oro fans)
 

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ha ha ah LOL! Hiruzen? weak? HA HA HA

he just owned Oro with two edos. thats called a feat!

He just lost against Oro. Have you been reading a different manga? Orochimaru was just toying with him.
The two edo's were like chuunins. They sucked.
 

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ha ha ah LOL! Hiruzen? weak? HA HA HA

he just owned Oro with two edos. thats called a feat!

Stop being an ignorant fool. Orochimaru underestimated Hiruzen. He didn't used his full power against him.
 

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Stop being an ignorant fool. Orochimaru underestimated Hiruzen. He didn't used his full power against him.

which makes Hiruzen way more powerfull. Oro was just surprised at Hiruzen fighting him at such an age. am not saying tsunade is weak or something, but Hiruzen isnt weak either.Even Oro knows about the power of Hiruzen.
 

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which makes Hiruzen way more powerfull. Oro was just surprised at Hiruzen fighting him at such an age. am not saying tsunade is weak or something, but Hiruzen isnt weak either.Even Oro knows about the power of Hiruzen.

Who said Hiruzen is weak? He is not weak, but his students surpassed him.
 

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Who said Hiruzen is weak? He is not weak, but his students surpassed him.

I said that he is weak when compared to the other kage. I expected more from him. Maybe he'll show more feats.
 
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