tsunade vs Kakuzu

[Zexion~]

Did it go all the way through U_U .. besides i still pretty sure the heart's not there

 

[aimop95]

I still find it high-unlikely that Tsunade completely countered an incision such as that.

Well...I guess that's the power of a Senju. xD

Did it go all the way through U_U .. besides i still pretty sure the heart's not there

That's where most of the veins and arteries (I hate anatomy) are located though that lead right into the heart. So it should have been a fatal blow in any case.

 

[TheEvilOne]

I guess she can "tank" anything.

I still find it high-unlikely that Tsunade completely countered an incision such as that.

The answer is simple as hell: Senju DNA! ( and Uzumaki inheritence )

 

[Brother Numpsay]

If what you say is true. Then Tsunade still stands a good chance though. The fire aftermath will still be to hot for Kakzu to enter the blast zone safely and the few seconds it takes is all Tsunade needs to be mobile. Charred skin but mobile enough to leap away from any attack Kakazu tries to throw at her next.

I don't think Kakuzu entering his blast zone will be a problem considering he did it agains't Kakashi:

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It will be matter of time that the more she is tanking the more she get sluggish in fighting.
Since she is a CQC fighting it will be easier to fight and gain for her heart. From Kakuzu style it seems that he always kill to gain another heart so I will expect Kakuzu's goal to fight until its easier to grab it.

Besides, it's not like she's going to just sit there. And Kakazu probably won't want to risk a heart to just tie her down (and she's shown enough raw strength to be able to rip her way out of Kakazu's tendrils easily).

I honestly haven't seen her able to rip away Kakuzu's tendrils. Those threds are also flexable/elastic at will. With Kakuzu properly tieing her down she will not rip it with just sheer force.

Last time I checked, Kakazu's lightning release was not the cutting type like Sauske's lightning release. More of the blasting type. (please correct me if I'm wrong though)

We haven't seen this jutsu kill on contact since it was blocked by Kakashi. Note that it took Kakashi's penetrating lighting style to block the jutsu. For futher proof that this move penetrates is this:

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(I couldn't find the original but if you read through all the highlights you will get it what I am saying)

That sort of power won't harm Tsunade as much as you think it will. Intense Electro-therapy for Tsunade will make her stumble, but her healing jutsu will ultimately protect her.

After reading through my post I hope it will review how Kakuzu's justu will really effect her.

@Zexion~

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[aimop95]

I don't think Kakuzu entering his blast zone will be a problem considering he did it agains't Kakashi:

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It will be matter of time that the more she is tanking the more she get sluggish in fighting.
Since she is a CQC fighting it will be easier to fight and gain for her heart. From Kakuzu style it seems that he always kill to gain another heart so I will expect Kakuzu's goal to fight until its easier to grab it.



I honestly haven't seen her able to rip away Kakuzu's tendrils. Those threds are also flexable/elastic at will. With Kakuzu properly tieing her down she will not rip it with just sheer force.



We haven't seen this jutsu kill on contact since it was blocked by Kakashi. Note that it took Kakashi's penetrating lighting style to block the jutsu. For futher proof that this move penetrates is this:

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(I couldn't find the original but if you read through all the highlights you will get it what I am saying)




After reading through my post I hope it will review how Kakuzu's justu will really effect her.

@Zexion~

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I wouldn't underestimate her strength. Besides, we don't know how strong or elastic Kakazu's tendrils are to begin with. But we do know how strong Tsunade is in just raw physical strength.

Also, that's assuming he can catch Tsunade. She's not just going to sit there and let him. She's plenty fast on her own.

As for your lightning spear. TheEvilOne already made a point that Tsunade took a sword to the heart and survived.

Besides, it would take some great precision on Kakazu's part to be able to target Tsunade's head or heart, something we haven't exactly been able to see since he uses a lot of Area of Effect attacks. And head shots are pretty hard to get in any case.

Tsunade already has been shown to be able to deal with puncture and slicing wounds quite easily.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I wouldn't underestimate her strength. Besides, we don't know how strong or elastic Kakazu's tendrils are to begin with. But we do know how strong Tsunade is in just raw physical strength.

Of course we know how strong and elastic they are. But Ill assume you don't look carefully at Kakuzu's arsenals simply because you don't care about him, which is perfectly fine.

-They are strong enough to use for stitching and putting human pieces back together (via Hidan's head and Deiara's arm). This also proves it's flexibility:

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-They are strong enough to chock hold characters
-They are strong enough to break through the ground
-It took Kakashi Raikiri to cut the these things off of someone:

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Also, that's assuming he can catch Tsunade. She's not just going to sit there and let him. She's plenty fast on her own.

I don't know how to respond this this honestly. I never claim she will sit there nor will I claim ANY character in Naruto to sit there and let their attack them. This isn't up for disscussion

As for your lightning spear. TheEvilOne already made a point that Tsunade took a sword to the heart and survived.

If you look at Dr. Proof post it was shown that it was near her hear not directly. My point for Lightening spear is that the attack is wider then anything shown she had been pierce. When this attack hits, her body will split from it due to the spear being larger then her body.

Besides, it would take some great precision on Kakazu's part to be able to target Tsunade's head or heart, something we haven't exactly been able to see since he uses a lot of Area of Effect attacks. And head shots are pretty hard to get in any case.

Never claim attacking her head as that would be kinda out of character on Kakuzu's behalf. My claims are the side effects Tsunades have to endure taking Kakuzu's elemental blast then proceeds to take care of her heart in her weaken state.

Tsunade already has been shown to be able to deal with puncture and slicing wounds quite easily.

My point is Kakuzu's lightening is wider then what she had been struck from in the manga. Due to its size it is big enough to cut her in half instead of just stabbing her.

 

[aimop95]

Of course we know how strong and elastic they are. But Ill assume you don't look carefully at Kakuzu's arsenals simply because you don't care about him, which is perfectly fine.

-They are strong enough to use for stitching and putting human pieces back together (via Hidan's head and Deiara's arm). This also proves it's flexibility:

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-They are strong enough to chock hold characters
-They are strong enough to break through the ground
-It took Kakashi Raikiri to cut the these things off of someone:

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I don't know how to respond this this honestly. I never claim she will sit there nor will I claim ANY character in Naruto to sit there and let their attack them. This isn't up for disscussion



If you look at Dr. Proof post it was shown that it was near her hear not directly. My point for Lightening spear is that the attack is wider then anything shown she had been pierce. When this attack hits, her body will split from it due to the spear being larger then her body.



Never claim attacking her head as that would be kinda out of character on Kakuzu's behalf. My claims are the side effects Tsunades have to endure taking Kakuzu's elemental blast then proceeds to take care of her heart in her weaken state.



My point is Kakuzu's lightening is wider then what she had been struck from in the manga. Due to its size it is big enough to cut her in half instead of just stabbing her.

That does not prove elasticity, which is what you are arguing. Just because it can hold together a head does not mean it is so elastic that Tsunade cannot rip it in half with her hands. In fact, having less elastic tendrils makes it easier for Tsunade to break them. My point is, we do not know how elastic these tendrils are. If they are very elastic, Tsunade might have more trouble getting out of them. If they are more cable-like (metal cable), then Tsunade has an easier time breaking them because she can apply more stress to the cables then the cables can take.

I have yet to find a scan that shows Kakazu's cables being very elastic, in fact, they behave more like metal cables than anything else.

Shikamaru dodged lightning spear. And his speed is even slower than Kakazu's speed. Tsunade is definitely faster than Shikamaru.

 

[Zexion~]

Not that it matters ... By the time tsunade would try to rip the threads.. her heart would be removed .. or her skull caved in from a iron hand punch, Or even obliterated with jutsu .. (all at once) Whereas she would not be able to heal from

 

[aimop95]

Not that it matters ... By the time tsunade would try to rip the threads.. her heart would be removed .. or her skull caved in from a iron hand punch, Or even obliterated with jutsu .. (all at once) Whereas she would not be able to heal from

I'm not saying it wouldn't be a difficult fight or that Tsunade wins hands down. But Kakuzu is definitely not having an easy match against a person who can match his battlefield immortality with a regeneration jutsu.

 

[Zexion~]

Except his is permanent hers is not ... And like i said all he has too do is remove an organ or Completely turn her into ashes with Wind+Fire, Meanwhile she just is not touching him due to his range and speed, .. Its a mid diff fight

 

[Brother Numpsay]

That does not prove elasticity, which is what you are arguing. Just because it can hold together a head does not mean it is so elastic that Tsunade cannot rip it in half with her hands. In fact, having less elastic tendrils makes it easier for Tsunade to break them. My point is, we do not know how elastic these tendrils are. If they are very elastic, Tsunade might have more trouble getting out of them. If they are more cable-like (metal cable), then Tsunade has an easier time breaking them because she can apply more stress to the cables then the cables can take.

The wiggling effect proves that it has a elastic effect. Metal cables do NOT stretch as of Kakuzu's threads do so yes all the pages of Kakuzu using it proves that it is indeed elastic.

I have yet to find a scan that shows Kakazu's cables being very elastic, in fact, they behave more like metal cables than anything else.

As as said above they are able to stretch and extend. They are able to shrink and expand. That shows they are elastic

Shikamaru dodged lightning spear. And his speed is even slower than Kakazu's speed. Tsunade is definitely faster than Shikamaru.

Completely wrong my friend Shikamaru Never dodge the attack No one has anyone ever dodge Gian

 

[Curse Mark]

The cables aren't elastic.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

The cables aren't elastic.

"The" meaning Kakuzu's Jingou?

 

[ToshiZO]

Lol people dont seem to understand...Tsunade has no way of damaging Kakuzu she cannot get past Domu its as simple as that. Domu > Rib Cage susanoo no physical attack goes by it...only weakness is lightning. Kakuzu is virtually unbeatable against Taijutsu based opponents.

 

[DrProof]

Lol people dont seem to understand...Tsunade has no way have damaging Kakuzu she cannot get past Domu its as simple as that. Domu > Rib Cage susanoo no physical attack goes by it...only weakness is lightning.

Give this man an award.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I wouldn't like to say "she can punch all shes wants and nothing happens" but Kakuzu is smart enough to notice her prowess, once tanking one or two, and plan a strategy to make it useless to strike anymore

 

[Curse Mark]

"The" meaning Kakuzu's Jingou?

Yes. They aren't stretching or they would get thinner. They elongate/grow.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Yes. They aren't stretching or they would get thinner. They elongate/grow.

Ok. So how does this disprove that its has elastic priorities? it it can elongate wouldn't that mean it can go back to normal?

 

[ToshiZO]

Tsunade doesnt get past Domu.......Punches are not getting past Domu period, /thread

 

[aimop95]

Tsunade doesnt get past Domu.......Punches are not getting past Domu period, /thread

and yet why didn't he use it all the time if it works so well?