Tsunade Vs Gaara

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Gaara isn't stupid. Tsunade will never get close enough to unleash a full power punch, and even if she did Gaara isn't going to be so stupid as to create a single sand wall to block her. He'll create multiple in her path that will inevitably slow her momentum and create and opening for Gaara.
which takes more chakra, which GG's his already limited Large scale arsenal.
You do know that a simple flick of tsunade's finger is a devastating attack right...? Gaara's sand doesn't have feats to hold up to even a simple jab from tsunade which is under the influence of byakugo. During a dash, he wouldn't even have much time to prep this 'multiple layer' defence like you claim. The same superman punch she shattered madara's mokuton feint with would shatter gaara's sand dome + sand armor in one swift move.

I don't understand the points you listed.. Summoning katsuyu and shattering the ground won't affect Gaara's abilities... She won't stop the Tsunami LOL. Destroying the ground doesn't mean the Tsunami suddenly stops, nor has she shown feats in which she can destroy this much ground aoe. Do you not see how tiny Kimimaro is compared to the Tsunami? [ ] There is no way her punch will shatter the ground to 1. Effect this at all 2. Reduce any momentum 3. Not end up dying.
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Do you see the size of juubi clones in comparison to that? do you see the size of just those boulders compared to mini juubi's? 1 of those boulders alone is enough to stop that wave; gaara would have to restart the sand tsunami which is pretty much restarting the chakra drain.

[ ][ ] is all it takes to break out of a sand tsunami once it hit, just before gaara completely crushes her by compacting it.

Stop comparing Tsunade with Kimimaro. Kimimaro has CM and insanely hard bones which Gaara's sand couldn't even crush. He would have no problem using his full force while beign bound by sand. Unlike Tsunade he can put his hand through extreme pressure even when bound without destroying his arm. Only because you are swinging glass with 10 times the force of the metal doesn't mean the metal won't win. And Tsunade isn't infinitely stronger than Kimimaro. Kimimaro is quite strong as well.. You are simply underrating Kimmi because he had the worst opponent possible for his fighting style. Even if you don't accept this argument, which is viable according to Biology, she still wouldn't escape a Sand Tsunami nor would she escape the Sabaku Sōtaisō. No argument is present on your side to escape the Tsunami and the Sabaku Sōtaisō. Third Raikage escaped while gaara was crying (no concentration) and a jutsu which has barely any feats. And to be honest, the sand coffin may not be capable of killing Tsunade. But Sand Tsunami easily kills her. It's too much for her to handle without any special endurance feat. And byakugo isn't what I mean, she won't survive even with Byakugo if she can't breath. Same applies for Sabaku Sōtaisō. If she isn't crushed by both of these, she still is suffocated.
Your kimimaro analogy just straight up makes no sense. You even say I underrate kimimaro, wow. I don't even want to make that bother me.

First thing you need to know is gaara's abilities before you make these claims because you're already arguing with me about 2 of my favourite characters (gaara and kimimaro). The first thing you need to know is that gaara wrapping you in sand =/= instant death, he has to go to the second step of crushing you by compacting the sand. your entire bone argument fails right there because no one was tanking about tsunade tanking anything.
The second thing you need to know is that tsunade, again, is infinitely stronger than kimi. Kimimaro is a 3 in strength, tsunade is a 5. Straight from base she's aready stronger. Then you take into account the fact that kimimaro broke gaara's sand the first time in CS-V1 which is no where as V2. Furthermore, your glass analogy is beyond ridiculous. Kimimaro has the arm strength( biceps, lats, shoulders, back) to lift this above his head, yea? And even muster the leg power( to jump with it, right? Yet he had enough of both to either push out of sand coffin, or stand out of sand desert burial. Since you're the one who brought up anatomy, I'll leave you to figuring out where strength, power and movement originate from.
 

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Gaara absolutely and utterly destroys Tsunade. This isn't debatable.

Desert means no difficulty, no desert... low difficulty. I won't debate this, anyone backing up Tsunade is more than likely on par intellectually with a 10 year old.
 
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Gaara absolutely and utterly destroys Tsunade. This isn't debatable.

Desert means no difficulty, no desert... low difficulty. I won't debate this, anyone backing up Tsunade is more than likely on par intellectually with a 10 year olds.
So you can't counter a 10 year old guy's arguments? That's quite sad.
 

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So you can't counter a 10 year old guy's arguments? That's quite sad.
Excuse me? You must be one of the people with the thought process of a child I was referring to, since you decided to lash out.

The OP is a troll, and I've already thoroughly debated and have proven Gaara's victory on several different occasions. Good day.
 
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which takes more chakra, which GG's his already limited Large scale arsenal.
You do know that a simple flick of tsunade's finger is a devastating attack right...? Gaara's sand doesn't have feats to hold up to even a simple jab from tsunade which is under the influence of byakugo. During a dash, he wouldn't even have much time to prep this 'multiple layer' defence like you claim. The same superman punch she shattered madara's mokuton feint with would shatter gaara's sand dome + sand armor in one swift move.
You fail to realise that sand simply disperses when it is hit. Gaara is controlling the sand. If he engulfs her with sand, she cannot create a shockwave which engulfs her as well. She cannot send the sand back and be safe, the sand can constantly attack her, even if she has dispersed it, at different angles. It would simply be impossible for her to block a high quantity of mass that is attacking her in an engulfed form. Moreover, Gaara can end this fight with a single ability. [ ]-->[ ] There's no way Tsunade can counter this. Kimimaro wouldn't have escaped without Sawarabi no mae. Tsunade cannot escape this, simple as that.

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Do you see the size of juubi clones in comparison to that? do you see the size of just those boulders compared to mini juubi's? 1 of those boulders alone is enough to stop that wave; gaara would have to restart the sand tsunami which is pretty much restarting the chakra drain.

[ ][ ] is all it takes to break out of a sand tsunami once it hit, just before gaara completely crushes her by compacting it.
Lol no. One boulder isn't nearly enough to stop those boulders. Mini Juubi's are 20 cm learner than the shin obi's at most, while others are much shorter (dogs and other exceptions). I do realise the blast is larger than the Tsunami, however, the boulder wouldn't stop it, not even close. Moreover, the Tsunami covers her, it isn't a linear attack that comes right in front of your face. This further proves she wouldn't take it all away with her punch, sine her punch was vertically large, and horizontally inferior to Gaara's Tsunami. He doesn't have to restart it, he's controlling it, as long as he is controlling it, he won't expend too much chakra. Keeping control of it=/= making an entirely new wave, meaning he can keep control of it since she won't be destroying the sand pebbles to microscopic fragments. And no, Katsuyu=/= Gamabunta. Katsuyu would split up into thousands of slugs under pressure. Sand Tsunami is far superior in size to Katsuyu, so once it overshadows Katsuyu, Tsunade is next in line to be crushed.

Your kimimaro analogy just straight up makes no sense. You even say I underrate kimimaro, wow. I don't even want to make that bother me.

First thing you need to know is gaara's abilities before you make these claims because you're already arguing with me about 2 of my favourite characters (gaara and kimimaro). The first thing you need to know is that gaara wrapping you in sand =/= instant death, he has to go to the second step of crushing you by compacting the sand. your entire bone argument fails right there because no one was tanking about tsunade tanking anything.
The second thing you need to know is that tsunade, again, is infinitely stronger than kimi. Kimimaro is a 3 in strength, tsunade is a 5. Straight from base she's aready stronger. Then you take into account the fact that kimimaro broke gaara's sand the first time in CS-V1 which is no where as V2. Furthermore, your glass analogy is beyond ridiculous. Kimimaro has the arm strength( biceps, lats, shoulders, back) to lift this above his head, yea? And even muster the leg power( to jump with it, right? Yet he had enough of both to either push out of sand coffin, or stand out of sand desert burial. Since you're the one who brought up anatomy, I'll leave you to figuring out where strength, power and movement originate from.
I don't get what you just said with tanking about tanking anything. Didn't make any sense so I will ignore it. If you are saying something about Kimimaro going out=Tsunade goes out, it isn't true. Kimi would have been crushed multiple times if it weren't for his bones. Your DB reference is beyond ridiculous. Characters have their stats in regards to their base forms. Meaning CM wouldn't be added in as strength, since he isn't in base. And good for you, you were capable of figuring out a flawed analogy. You still cannot counter Gaara's quicksand [ ].
 

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which takes more chakra, which GG's his already limited Large scale arsenal.
You do know that a simple flick of tsunade's finger is a devastating attack right...? Gaara's sand doesn't have feats to hold up to even a simple jab from tsunade which is under the influence of byakugo. During a dash, he wouldn't even have much time to prep this 'multiple layer' defence like you claim. The same superman punch she shattered madara's mokuton feint with would shatter gaara's sand dome + sand armor in one swift move.



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Do you see the size of juubi clones in comparison to that? do you see the size of just those boulders compared to mini juubi's? 1 of those boulders alone is enough to stop that wave; gaara would have to restart the sand tsunami which is pretty much restarting the chakra drain.

[ ][ ] is all it takes to break out of a sand tsunami once it hit, just before gaara completely crushes her by compacting it.


Your kimimaro analogy just straight up makes no sense. You even say I underrate kimimaro, wow. I don't even want to make that bother me.

First thing you need to know is gaara's abilities before you make these claims because you're already arguing with me about 2 of my favourite characters (gaara and kimimaro). The first thing you need to know is that gaara wrapping you in sand =/= instant death, he has to go to the second step of crushing you by compacting the sand. your entire bone argument fails right there because no one was tanking about tsunade tanking anything.
The second thing you need to know is that tsunade, again, is infinitely stronger than kimi. Kimimaro is a 3 in strength, tsunade is a 5. Straight from base she's aready stronger. Then you take into account the fact that kimimaro broke gaara's sand the first time in CS-V1 which is no where as V2. Furthermore, your glass analogy is beyond ridiculous. Kimimaro has the arm strength( biceps, lats, shoulders, back) to lift this above his head, yea? And even muster the leg power( to jump with it, right? Yet he had enough of both to either push out of sand coffin, or stand out of sand desert burial. Since you're the one who brought up anatomy, I'll leave you to figuring out where strength, power and movement originate from.
If your not considered a fanfap then ill be damned. She has NOTHING to defeat gaara, even katsuya gets turned into fodder. even if she managed to break the sheild sand armour is next to worry about. Sand tsunami and sand coffin. its illogical defending someone who clearly loses
 

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If your not considered a fanfap then ill be damned. She has NOTHING to defeat gaara, even katsuya gets turned into fodder. even if she managed to break the sheild sand armour is next to worry about. Sand tsunami and sand coffin. its illogical defending someone who clearly loses
Agreed. His only argument is that Tsunade out sustains Gaara, which won't occur since she's destroyed within the first 10 minutes.
 

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Agreed. His only argument is that Tsunade out sustains Gaara, which won't occur since she's destroyed within the first 10 minutes.

Out sustains Gaara? Gaara chooses how to kill her. He can either go air bourne or simply crush her with a sand tsunami. She cant escape Gaaras sand i don't care if you were trained to dodge Raikage speed attacks, the sand is abundant and for that reason she eventually gets raped via sand. If he gets her in a sand tsunami or if he really wants to take the piss he can used Imperial funeral to make sure she is crushed. If his only argument is out lasting gaara he's screwed because she cant even do that in this fight.
 
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