Tsunade > Orochimaru? Seriously?

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Like what techniques? Oral rebirth? You don't think Tsunade won't demolish the next Orochimaru like she'd do to the first one too? The seal will not be usable against her.

Meh not worth my time.
 

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Meh not worth my time.

Fine. It actually would have been nice to hear what he could have done to make the seal thingie usable against her. But okay then. I actually pretty much am aware of the sannin's abilities since I am a fanboy... so.
 

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Because he will get that close to Tsunade without getting killed.

killed by a punch he's already tanked? Tsunade is a close range fighter, she'll need to close the distance between the. However, we've seen Tsuande jump into her attacks recklessly. This leaves her open for counterattacks 75% of the time, especially if the shinobi is faster than she is.

5 element seal is simply applying the hand against one's stomach. Kabuto was able to make contact against her with little difficulty. Therefore, this tactic can very well have her unable to perform jutsu
 

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killed by a punch he's already tanked? Tsunade is a close range fighter, she'll need to close the distance between the. However, we've seen Tsuande jump into her attacks recklessly. This leaves her open for counterattacks 75% of the time, especially if the shinobi is faster than she is.

5 element seal is simply applying the hand against one's stomach. Kabuto was able to make contact against her with little difficulty. Therefore, this tactic can very well have her unable to perform jutsu

Again with the rusty part 1 Tsunade. It was stated in the manga that she wasn't 100%. You really think Orochimaru can just get quickly close to her, place her hand on her stomach for a couple of seconds and then just leave? I don't think so.

You do realized Orochimaru RETREATED after that one punch?
 

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Kabuto admits inferiority in Taijutsu.

5 pages later, Kabuto beats her in hand to hand combat and admits that he wasn't even serious.

Sit down fanbase.
 

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Again with the rusty part 1 Tsunade. It was stated in the manga that she wasn't 100%. You really think Orochimaru can just get quickly close to her, place her hand on her stomach for a couple of seconds and then just leave? I don't think so.

You do realized Orochimaru RETREATED after that one punch?

has her speed increased? has her tactics changed? During their fight against Madara, Ay commented that Tsuande was fighting "sloppy" or something along those lines. Therefore, the statement stands, as her fighting style remains the same.

Do I think Orochimaru can blitz Tsuande...YES. She might be able to notice/react but her body has not shown any speed feats to dodge faster opponents, especially following up after her attacks.

She was 100% to blood being used. Kabuto managed to have contact before that, because of her reckless style

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Tsuande leaves herself open with every punch/kick she throws, but everyone can afford to get close to her. Orochimaru can.

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Tsunade running close and throwing punches/kicks, Orochimaru has the speed to place a hand on her.
 

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Kabuto admits inferiority in Taijutsu.

5 pages later, Kabuto beats her in hand to hand combat and admits that he wasn't even serious.

Sit down fanbase.

Does it seem like he ruled that quick taijutsu exchange? Tsunade made the rules of that quick trade of blows, Kabuto acted accordingly by countering her acts by slicing her muscles. Tsunade did state that his instincts were better than hers.
If Kabuto had not cut her muscles when he did he would have died under a second later with that simple push.

So yeah. Part 1 Tsunade is clearly above Kabuto in taijutsu.
 

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Tsunade's taijutsu is so overrated honestly, she hasnt shown me no taijutsu feats that would make me want to put her on the level of Guy, not even Lee.
 

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has her speed increased? has her tactics changed? During their fight against Madara, Ay commented that Tsuande was fighting "sloppy" or something along those lines. Therefore, the statement stands, as her fighting style remains the same.

Do I think Orochimaru can blitz Tsuande...YES. She might be able to notice/react but her body has not shown any speed feats to dodge faster opponents, especially following up after her attacks.

She was 100% to blood being used. Kabuto managed to have contact before that, because of her reckless style

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Tsuande leaves herself open with every punch/kick she throws, but everyone can afford to get close to her. Orochimaru can.

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Tsunade running close and throwing punches/kicks, Orochimaru has the speed to place a hand on her.

You do really fail to see her abilities. First of all she ruled the taijutsu exchange with Kabuto. So she clearly outshined him.

It isn't enough if he just places his hand on her stomach. Check again how it wen't against Naruto.
Given the time it requires to use Tsunade would have killed Orochimaru already.
 

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You do really fail to see her abilities. First of all she ruled the taijutsu exchange with Kabuto. So she clearly outshined him.

It isn't enough if he just places his hand on her stomach. Check again how it wen't against Naruto.
Given the time it requires to use Tsunade would have killed Orochimaru already.

but she didn't outshine him and the FACT remain, she's a reackelss fighter.

Kabuto had his chakra hand prepped prior to making contact. All Orochimaru would have to do is prep that technique prior to her attacks, AS KABUTO did. The manga facts align with what I'm explaining to you

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I see no time required here...
 

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but she didn't outshine him and the FACT remain, she's a reackelss fighter.

Kabuto had his chakra hand prepped prior to making contact. All Orochimaru would have to do is prep that technique prior to her attacks, AS KABUTO did. The manga facts align with what I'm explaining to you

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I see no time required here...

No she did actually outshine Kabuto completely in that taijutsu exchange. Read my response to Zaru.
Actually no. When Orochimaru used that technique it took more than a second to use it.
Tsunade would punch/hit/push/rip/squeeze him instantly after getting close enough.

As I stated in a much earlier post I really don't see ANY blitzing happening in this fight. Actually not in any fight unless there is A with his v2 on.
 

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Tsunade's taijutsu is so overrated honestly, she hasnt shown me no taijutsu feats that would make me want to put her on the level of Guy, not even Lee.

Classic words:
"But but but Jiraiya said No one can stand shoulder to shoulder against her in combat!"

It is good that some others see Guy or even Lee are better at taijutsu than her.

OT: Orochimaru > Tsunade.
 

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Classic words:
"But but but Jiraiya said No one can stand shoulder to shoulder against her in combat!"

It is good that some others see Guy or even Lee are better at taijutsu than her.

OT: Orochimaru > Tsunade.

Even though you're amazing I need an explanation. HOW?

And I actually see Tsunade as a top notch taijutsu user.
 

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Funny how people think Tsunade stands a chance.
 

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Funny how people think Tsunade stands a chance.

It's not even funny how there are people like you that underestimate Tsunade completely, who has more ways of killing Orochimaru than he has killing her. :|
 

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It's not even funny how there are people like you that underestimate Tsunade completely, who has more ways of killing Orochimaru than he has killing her. :|

You must not know me, I don't underestimate ANYONE, if I can clearly see how Tsuande wins, then sure she wins. But she isn't winning here. Orochimaru isn't a push-over praised by Hashirama, Hiruzen, Pein, Obito, Sauske, Suigetsu.
 

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You must not know me, I don't underestimate ANYONE, if I can clearly see how Tsuande wins, then sure she wins. But she isn't winning here. Orochimaru isn't a push-over praised by Hashirama, Hiruzen, Pein, Obito, Sauske, Suigetsu.

Of course he isn't a pushover. But he isn't stomping or raping anyone here.
I believe that the sannin are equal, but I'd see Tsunade having more ways to kill Orochimaru than vice versa.
This battle could go either way.
 
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