Tsunade can counter Amaterasu.

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She literally took katon to her body to save the gokage. Its what she does. Not my fault she does it. Its gross but it happens.

Yeah sure, let your character mutilate herself.
 

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Lol the whole base takes this so serious XD
 

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I never understood why Tsunade fans hate her so much to develop such draconian methods to check ama. I mean why would you want her to remove her skin.

This problem pertains to everything, even outside of Amaterasu. It happens because Tsunade lacks feats, and her linear, one dimensional fighting style does not lend itself to reasonable assumptions about other techniques she might have / possess. To compensate for her lack of feats and overall lackluster showing, you end up with ridiculous arguments like:

1. Tsunade has speed comparable to Raikage.
2. Tsunade counters sound Genjutsu by screaming really loudly.
3. Tsunade is completely immune to ocular Genjutsu because she has great chakra control.
4. Tsunade is immune to headshots, can tear off and regrow limbs like tic-tacs, all within an instant.
5. Katsuyu is Exodia.

And then you have stupid generalizations, like "she is a Sannin" or "she is a Kage" and trying to take advantage of the feats of her peers (the other Sannin and Kage) and inflate her power by mere association with those other individuals.

It is why I want Tsunade, or at the very least Sakura, to get more diverse feats so that these desperate arguments can stop appearing. They are not fun to debate against and generally turn the person that is making the assertions into a laughing stock, much like this thread. Of course, everyone else is wrong and they are right because Tsunade is a Kage and Sannin, thus she is greater than all.
 

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Didnt she summon Katsuyu while cut in half? Alright then.
What does that even mean? So you're telling me Sasuke will light her on fire with Ameterasu, and then watch her cut her skin off and heal it? Do you understand that the second she tries to do this, she will just die... Right? You're either trolling or don't realize how stupid this sounds.
 

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Yep she can counter kamui too and one shot Obito.
 

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The fact that you thought Tsunade can regenerate limbs through Byakugo, shows how much of fallacious fanboy you are. When Madara cut her in half, she was unable to regenerate. That debunks on your whole regeneration argument. Second, pain tolerance doesn't help against Amatersu. The Jutsu is said to last for 7 days and nights; and Amatersu burns all over the victim. A completely fallacious thread with full of illogical argument.​
 

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This problem pertains to everything, even outside of Amaterasu. It happens because Tsunade lacks feats, and her linear, one dimensional fighting style does not lend itself to reasonable assumptions about other techniques she might have / possess. To compensate for her lack of feats and overall lackluster showing, you end up with ridiculous arguments like:

1. Tsunade has speed comparable to Raikage.
2. Tsunade counters sound Genjutsu by screaming really loudly.
3. Tsunade is completely immune to ocular Genjutsu because she has great chakra control.
4. Tsunade is immune to headshots, can tear off and regrow limbs like tic-tacs, all within an instant.
5. Katsuyu is Exodia.

And then you have stupid generalizations, like "she is a Sannin" or "she is a Kage" and trying to take advantage of the feats of her peers (the other Sannin and Kage) and inflate her power by mere association with those other individuals.

It is why I want Tsunade, or at the very least Sakura, to get more diverse feats so that these desperate arguments can stop appearing. They are not fun to debate against and generally turn the person that is making the assertions into a laughing stock, much like this thread. Of course, everyone else is wrong and they are right because Tsunade is a Kage and Sannin, thus she is greater than all.

Why are you bring up arguments 2 people sated or 3.

Dude it's a whole bunch of tsunade fans yet you generalized all of them into 1 category. Shessh


Your number 1 is correct. Her speed equal to his base
 

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This problem pertains to everything, even outside of Amaterasu. It happens because Tsunade lacks feats, and her linear, one dimensional fighting style does not lend itself to reasonable assumptions about other techniques she might have / possess. To compensate for her lack of feats and overall lackluster showing, you end up with ridiculous arguments like:

1. Tsunade has speed comparable to Raikage.
2. Tsunade counters sound Genjutsu by screaming really loudly.
3. Tsunade is completely immune to ocular Genjutsu because she has great chakra control.
4. Tsunade is immune to headshots, can tear off and regrow limbs like tic-tacs, all within an instant.
5. Katsuyu is Exodia.

And then you have stupid generalizations, like "she is a Sannin" or "she is a Kage" and trying to take advantage of the feats of her peers (the other Sannin and Kage) and inflate her power by mere association with those other individuals.

It is why I want Tsunade, or at the very least Sakura, to get more diverse feats so that these desperate arguments can stop appearing. They are not fun to debate against and generally turn the person that is making the assertions into a laughing stock, much like this thread. Of course, everyone else is wrong and they are right because Tsunade is a Kage and Sannin, thus she is greater than all.

that sound genjutsu one got me Lol
 

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How can you possibly think she can regenerate an arm when she not only has no feats of it but also had a hard time reattaching herself even with Karin's help? If you wanna prove something, at least back it up with feats. Madara's sage mode enhanced regeneration couldn't regenerate an arm, and your response was that "there is nothing about that implies he cannot regenerate an arm". But that's the thing you just don't get, the fact is that he didn't regenerate an arm. It's fallacious to use circular reasoning and say that there is nothing that suggests he couldn't regenerate an arm as proof that he can. You need to use feats. In case you haven't realized, lack of feats are part of the reason why Tsunade threads get flamed upon a lot. You guys try to use the hyperbole of her being able to regenerate a limb as something that she can legitimately do, when there is literally no feats of her doing so. Keyword: hyperbole.

The second thing I'd like to point out is your claim of Tsunade having more pain tolerance than A. Right after she slapped Madara's lower level of Katon, she was actually miserably screaming in pain. So how do you explain that?

The rest seems fine.
 

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You're only labeling it as "BS" because its a very strong basis contradicting your argument.

"Everything" she regenerated from is stomach wounds from Susano'o swords. That is nothing like regrowing a limb. Databook implies that Tsunade's regeneration is simply accelerated human regen:

"By releasing a large amount of chakra at once, the body's cell division is forcibly stimulated, reconstruction all organs and all tissues making up the human body!"

Cell division does not give birth to new limbs.



It is a pretty good indicator that he can't. And if it is so time consuming that Madara thought it to be easier to attach a foreign arm rather than grow a new one, it should tell you about the infeasibility of what you are proposing, not only time-wise but possibly even chakra-wise.

Yeah, VIZ has her saying that about herself. As if a character hasn't said something about themselves that hasn't been proven wrong.



So basically, ignore Amaterasu incinerating Danzo, Hebi Sasuke, and a heat resistant toad stomach and focus on irrelevant feats of Amaterasu hitting its unintended targets as the basis for this thread.

Cell divison shouldnt allow for new organs out of nowhere either but it does.

She regrows a whole new stomach, kidney, and spleen since the old ones have been completely destroyed

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Danzo was blood lusted, fine she cant survive blood lusted amaterasu.
 

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Dude it's a whole bunch of tsunade fans yet you generalized all of them into 1 category. Shessh

Almost every Tsunade fan I've seen tries to salvage the character's lack of feats with stupid arguments. The universal one is "lolSannin" and "lolKage"; literally every single apologist I have seen pulls that one, all while ignoring match-up stipulations.

Katsuyu being Exodia is pretty popular around here too. Katsuyu can now react and keep up with top tier opponents, and is essentially a walking Yata Mirror.

Your number 1 is correct. Her speed equal to his base

1. No it isn't. Tsunade has a 3.5 in speed. She is the slowest person in the Kage level bracket (other than Gaara, an immobile fighter, old Hiruzen, and possibly Mei). Zetsu stated Raikage to be "really fast" even in base.

2. It isn't true; they are always referring to V1 / V2 Raikage and referencing the Madara battle, where Raikage was never in base. Base Raikage does not even have any feats outside of blitzing Zetsu.
 

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This problem pertains to everything, even outside of Amaterasu. It happens because Tsunade lacks feats, and her linear, one dimensional fighting style does not lend itself to reasonable assumptions about other techniques she might have / possess. To compensate for her lack of feats and overall lackluster showing, you end up with ridiculous arguments like:

1. Tsunade has speed comparable to Raikage.
2. Tsunade counters sound Genjutsu by screaming really loudly.
3. Tsunade is completely immune to ocular Genjutsu because she has great chakra control.
4. Tsunade is immune to headshots, can tear off and regrow limbs like tic-tacs, all within an instant.
5. Katsuyu is Exodia.

And then you have stupid generalizations, like "she is a Sannin" or "she is a Kage" and trying to take advantage of the feats of her peers (the other Sannin and Kage) and inflate her power by mere association with those other individuals.

It is why I want Tsunade, or at the very least Sakura, to get more diverse feats so that these desperate arguments can stop appearing. They are not fun to debate against and generally turn the person that is making the assertions into a laughing stock, much like this thread. Of course, everyone else is wrong and they are right because Tsunade is a Kage and Sannin, thus she is greater than all.

It's sad that I have seen all those arguments before. I always laughed when people brought rank into arguments when Naruto and Sasuke are both genins.
 

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This problem pertains to everything, even outside of Amaterasu. It happens because Tsunade lacks feats, and her linear, one dimensional fighting style does not lend itself to reasonable assumptions about other techniques she might have / possess. To compensate for her lack of feats and overall lackluster showing, you end up with ridiculous arguments like:

1. Tsunade has speed comparable to Raikage.
2. Tsunade counters sound Genjutsu by screaming really loudly.
3. Tsunade is completely immune to ocular Genjutsu because she has great chakra control.
4. Tsunade is immune to headshots, can tear off and regrow limbs like tic-tacs, all within an instant.
5. Katsuyu is Exodia.

And then you have stupid generalizations, like "she is a Sannin" or "she is a Kage" and trying to take advantage of the feats of her peers (the other Sannin and Kage) and inflate her power by mere association with those other individuals.

It is why I want Tsunade, or at the very least Sakura, to get more diverse feats so that these desperate arguments can stop appearing. They are not fun to debate against and generally turn the person that is making the assertions into a laughing stock, much like this thread. Of course, everyone else is wrong and they are right because Tsunade is a Kage and Sannin, thus she is greater than all.

This is very true. That sound genjutsu/screaming argument was literally the dumbest argument I have ever seen on the forum. Smh
 

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She regrows a whole new stomach, kidney, and spleen since the old ones have been completely destroyed

What are you on about? Look at the size of the . It was a thin, vertical line. The Susano'o sword didn't destroy her entire digestive system. At best, it punctured her .

Danzo was blood lusted, fine she cant survive blood lusted amaterasu.

What do you mean "Danzo was blood-lusted?" What does Danzo being bloodlusted have anything to do with how Amaterasu reacts on a target?

Amaterasu immediately incinerates the target when that target is the intended target and is at the focal point of the Amaterasu user's gaze. Jiraiya had a fire-resistant toad stomach, and that got instantly incinerated by Amaterasu. Hebi Sasuke's body was immediately incinerated by Amaterasu. Danzo's body was immediately incinerated by Amaterasu.

The only instances where Amaterasu did not immediately eat up the target is when the victim is a bystander that wasn't at the attack's focal point, ala samurai and Karin. Madara outright absorbed Amaterasu when it was used against him, and Bee used a Bijuu substitution technique.
 

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This is very true. That sound genjutsu/screaming argument was literally the dumbest argument I have ever seen on the forum. Smh
Sound bounces another sound away, didn't they teach you this in school
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5. Katsuyu is Exodia.

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