Tsunade Base > Oro and Jiraya Base

[KidGamer65]

2. You enter Sage mode to get Sage chakra. Without entering Sage mode how is it possible to have Sage chakra?

Actually, you gather Sage chakra to enter Sage Mode.

Kabuto mentioned that Orochimaru went to Ryuchi Cave to learn Sage Mode, but he could only get as far as mastering Senjutsu due to the handicap of his host body. So instead he put Senjutsu chakra into his Curse Marks, that's how they revived Orochimaru through Anko; by using the Senjutsu chakra in her Curse Mark.

 

[KingHashirama]

I would never take Jiraiya's quote seriously because as they were friends, there is no intention nor mindset of a serious fight, therefore no Jiraiya trying to counter. Its not the same to take a clear punch than recieving one while trying to avoid, the impact is different.

You overestimate Tsunade's Taijutsu, she has power, but not exactly a good Taijutsu technique. Sage Mode boosts Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, Strenght, Speed and Perception/Reaction. Tsunade's option go down the drain if Jiraiya achieves this, plus having MA and PA its an advantage that puts Tsunade against the wall.

Orochimaru i wont discuss, because despite i dont like the guy at all, to me is above them in almost everything, Knowledge, Endurance, Ninjutsu, Versatility, Kinjutsu and Genjutsu. Oro's only weakness will always be the Sharingan/Uchiha.

The punches in the battle will be of course worst aka stronger then she hit Jiraya normally with. The impact would be more stronger.

Actually people underrate her Taijutsu. She is the best Taijutsu user out of the sanins. And strength is part of Taijutsu.
So.. yea. Also, Tsunade can be pretty much on par with Jiraya's reaction in SM. But also, he can see the techniquee.. but we don't know if he himself is fast enough to react to it. Yea he has Ma and PA.. then its only fair she has Katsuyu. Well to be exact a small Katsuyu.

Actually, you gather Sage chakra to enter Sage Mode.

Kabuto mentioned that Orochimaru went to Ryuchi Cave to learn Sage Mode, but he could only get as far as mastering Senjutsu due to the handicap of his host body. So instead he put Senjutsu chakra into his Curse Marks, that's how they revived Orochimaru through Anko; by using the Senjutsu chakra in her Curse Mark.

Yea but if you have Sage chakra inside your body.. your automatically in Sage mode.

Yea but he was still able to learn to a EXTENT. Jiraya himself never prefected it either. He has only learned it to a Extent.

 

[LolaxXx]

So ur saying Orochimaru sits there while tsunade runs up for a punch or kick??
Show me something that tsunade can do to kill oro, cuz from what Ive seen, she cant do much to him.

 

[KidGamer65]

Not necessarily.

Learning how to use Senjutsu and entering Sage Mode require different types of training.

Jiraiya and Orochimaru both mastered Senjutsu, but Jiraiya couldn't balance the Senjutsu with his chakra perfectly and Oro's body didn't let him enter it.

 

[KingHashirama]

So ur saying Orochimaru sits there while tsunade runs up for a punch or kick??
Show me something that tsunade can do to kill oro, cuz from what Ive seen, she cant do much to him.

Never said that now did i.. I told you what she has over him. Tsunade can K.O him like she did to Shizune.. Mess up his nervous system and destroy him there. And also, Beat him to death. o-o

Not necessarily.

Learning how to use Senjutsu and entering Sage Mode require different types of training.

Jiraiya and Orochimaru both mastered Senjutsu, but Jiraiya couldn't balance the Senjutsu with his chakra perfectly and Oro's body didn't let him enter it.

But Naruto himself is a proof. Whenever he got Sage chakra inside of him, he went into sage mode.

So both only mastered it to a Extent.

 

[KidGamer65]

Never said that now did i.. I told you what she has over him. Tsunade can K.O him like she did to Shizune.. Mess up his nervous system and destroy him there. And also, Beat him to death. o-o



But Naruto himself is a proof. Whenever he got Sage chakra inside of him, he went into sage mode.

So both only mastered it to a Extent.

That's cause Naruto drew in enough to enter SM. When Oro made the Curse Marks he only used so.me Senjutsu chakra

Btw in the other. Thread, I meant that prime Madara didn't have rinnegan..just felt like I had to clarify that

 

[Lilvic92]

Of course Oro needs Edo tensei. Without it he couldn't even take on Old Man Sarutobi. He himself isn't that good is what your implying i assume?

No not at all. Edo Tensei is his jutsu therefore it's part of is power, just like the 6 paths of pain and tobi.
We don't bash Naruto for using Kurama or Tsunade for summoning Katsuya. AllI'm saying is that if Tsunade had fought Orochimaru in place of Sarutobi against Hashirama, Tobirama, and quite possibly Minato, she would've gotten RAPED! Especially since she hasn't shown any signs that she can peform sealing justu (I think).

 

[KingHashirama]

That's cause Naruto drew in enough to enter SM. When Oro made the Curse Marks he only used so.me Senjutsu chakra

Btw in the other. Thread, I meant that prime Madara didn't have rinnegan..just felt like I had to clarify that

See now that is a speculation on your end. Ohhh ok ;x gotcha.

No not at all. Edo Tensei is his jutsu therefore it's part of is power, just like the 6 paths of pain and tobi.
We don't bash Naruto for using Kurama or Tsunade for summoning Katsuya. AllI'm saying is that if Tsunade had fought Orochimaru in place of Sarutobi against Hashirama, Tobirama, and quite possibly Minato, she would've gotten RAPED! Especially since she hasn't shown any signs that she can peform sealing justu (I think).

Too bad Kabuto thought the same way. Till Madara told him that he is not Kabuto's power. Edo Tensei is a jutsu that is used to revive dead people and use them as zombies. Of course, she didn't have Sarutobi's suicide technique.

 

[LolaxXx]

Beat him to death? LMAO no. What can she do when thousands of snakes wrap around her? she gets bitten once and she is poisoned/
All tsunade has over him is "beating hi to death."

While orochimarus has, stabbing her to death, poisoning her, edo tensei, wind jutsus, curse seal, and many forbidden jutsu that he knows.

 

[KidGamer65]

See now that is a speculation on your end. Ohhh ok ;x gotcha.

No its not. It is stated that when you balance the Senjutsu chakra with your normal chakra you can enter Sage Mode, Orochimaru couldn't get Sage Mode so he used his Senjutsu chakra for his Curse Marks.

Orochimaru didn't take in enough Senjutsu to enter Sage Mode, due to his body.

Nothing I stated is speculation, its all in the manga.

 

[Frikid]

narutobase > tsunade base + jiraiya base + oro base.

SMH.

 

[garas56]

Lmao, I just noticed that Tsunade in her Base form is superior to the other 2 in their base forms. She is also more dangerous.

She has shown the most speed facts, even her "blitz" is superior to the other 2...
Medical ninjutsu 1 hit K.O (not death).
Strength wise shes superior.

The other 2 have Sage mode chakras to make them OP. While Tsunade is BOSS without it xD.

Basically her medical ninjutsu makes her Base more stronger then the other 2

Please ........She is the weakest Senju(Madra do not lie)The fight against Orochimaru with Jiraiya proved that Orochimaru is the strongest of thous three wee talk about 2v1.So she is not that strong.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Nah, she is not stronger then them :|

They are equals.

Tsunade> Oro > Jman > Tsunade

 

[Thundercles]

Sorry, man. I just can't agree with you.

 

[Owarij]

Healthy oro base with hands , shits on tsunade anytime

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Healthy oro base with hands , shits on tsunade anytime

Yeah, the healthy oro with his hands can use 2 fuuton jutsu.
Big deal :|

 

[Owarij]

Yeah, the healthy oro with his hands can use 2 fuuton jutsu.
Big deal :|

Healthy oro with hands can use edo tensei, and an unknown amount of jutsu which he spent his life learning

once again. Shits on tsunade regardless

 

[Amaterasuice]

Seems alive to me.
And no, all the 3 Sannins had a thing. Oro arms broken, Jiraiya drunk, Tsunade rusty and just cam out of hemophobia...

This is base Tsunade, not yin seal Tsunade. So she would die if she was ripped in half without yin seal.

Also, Tsunade was "rusty amd just came out of hemophobia"

Rusty= she got back in the gang of it awhile after Kabuto.
=Hemophobia= as you've said, she got out of it. Meaning she isn't struggling with it now.

 

[KingHashirama]

Healthy oro with hands can use edo tensei, and an unknown amount of jutsu which he spent his life learning

once again. Shits on tsunade regardless

Too bad he was still less important then Tsunade when they were together

This is base Tsunade, not yin seal Tsunade. So she would die if she was ripped in half without yin seal.

Also, Tsunade was "rusty amd just came out of hemophobia"

Rusty= she got back in the gang of it awhile after Kabuto.
=Hemophobia= as you've said, she got out of it. Meaning she isn't struggling with it now.

Shes cut in half and talking and summoning without the yin seal..... lmao.

 

[Slug Princess]

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