[Debate] Trumps Wall

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what i don't understand is why is it so wrong for a country to want secure borders when it's perfectly ok for neighborhood properties to be divided by fences and the doors to houses being locked. This isn't a perfect world where it's wise for ppl to just let strangers waltz into their home. I might not agree with everything Trump has to say, but i don't believe he's Darth Sidious simply because he says the U.S. needs better border security.
 

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It's not the morality of it that I think is stupid. Illegals get deported anyways. The problem is the practicality. One of the most insane things to promise for is already being promised and idiots are believing it. The benefit is definitely not worth the cost and the cost is not gonna be paid for by people who don't want it.

What kind of inbred retard believes in that shit? The whole basis of his campaign is that he's not a politician. He's already made worse lies than any politician so they're right about that, lmao!
 

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Psshhh he can deport my parents, he can take my papers that show that I was born here and send me away too, but no amount of concrete in the world can stop me from jumping over that joint. :reborn: Come at me Trump, with your fake ass toupe.
 

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What about Israel?

Also, what's wrong with keeping illegals away? He even said that legal immigration will still be a thing. Btw USA should take care of their own problems like homeless people first.
 

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People are oversensitive or just blabblering what everybody is saying to them. It is not really that stupid idea and no need get triggered at some one saying protect our own and deport illegals. May be it is stupid, the border can be enforced with other feasible way like they done in other places.
Chinese built the wall, Israel has one, most borders are no less than walls but that is when the wall exists to stop other side and coming to kill you, traffic drugs and stop illegals.

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Trump is drunk off the Henney if he thinks Mexico would pay to build a wall, let alone think that would stop illegal immigrants from finding a way into the country. Not only that, him and followers forget that illegal immigrants are a key part of the American economy and take low-paying jobs that everyday Americans like you and me simply won't take. Construction is a big one. About 60% of Latin-American immigrants who come to America to work in that industry have a sophisticated understanding of the trade. They'll also be useful in filling future labor gaps as the baby boomers are retiring.

Not only that, it ignores a major part of the history of the country. People have literally been immigrating here since the birth of the nation, even before the conception of the country. I wonder how we forgot that America is a melting pot of cultures,languages,and ideas and not a homogeneous European nation.
 

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"I want to build a wall around Donald Trump and make Bernie Sanders pay for it" - Austin Petersen ( was an option for libertarian presidential candidate however the party is coopted and 50% of delegates elected Gary Johnson and another republican governer as vice presidential candidate)
 

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As a citizen of Germany, I can tell you that building a giant wall is a very stupid idea.

Those are two totally different things. You can't compare the situations. It' just stupid.
Do you even know your own history?

OT: It's a good idea, but will most likely not happen. Sadly.
But I'm all for it.

Idc if they die tbh. America have a lot of other problems they should fix first.
 
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Those are two totally different things. You can't compare the situations. It' just stupid.
Do you even know your own history?

OT: It's a good idea, but will most likely not happen. Sadly.
But I'm all for it.

Idc if they die tbh. America have a lot of other problems they should fix first.
I'm well aware of the fact that the situations are different, but it doesn't change the fact that such walls are terrible. Just as terrible as you are as a person, you xenophobic right-wing supporter. Germany goes downhill because of people with your mindset.
 

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I'm well aware of the fact that the situations are different, but it doesn't change the fact that such walls are terrible. Just as terrible as you are as a person, you xenophobic right-wing supporter. Germany goes downhill because of people with your mindset.
How is letting all those immigrants in going for ya?
 

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I'm well aware of the fact that the situations are different, but it doesn't change the fact that such walls are terrible. Just as terrible as you are as a person, you xenophobic right-wing supporter. Germany goes downhill because of people with your mindset.

No, it's not. It's helpful to keep **** outside.
It would be better to build a wall around every other country too.

Xenophobic, really? That's just hilarious. I just know that some still act like animals and some don't. And I don't want them here.
Right wing? Hell yeah, and proud.

Gutmenschen wie du sind Schuld daran dass es mit unserem geliebten Deutschland bergab geht, früher oder später werdet ihr erkennen dass ihr wirklich Scheiße gebaut habt.

Dotr when will it come..?


How is letting all those immigrants in going for ya?
Not so good, as expected.
But people like him are still trying to defend them.
It's just hilarious how blind some people can be.
 
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You aren't honestly implying that seeing the migrant crisis as the problem it is is a bad thing, are you?
After Paris in 2015 a German man made the news for having travelled to the scene and played John Lennon's song 'imagine,' which is a utopian leftist song - "Imagine there's no countries" is the quintessential line of the song.

I suppose many people here think that is how problems in the real world are typically solved.

But history speaks a different language, what that magnificent German statesman Otto von Bismarck called "Blut und Eisen."

The great German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche believed that war every once in a while was necessary for a people for its cleansing effect if nothing else. In Thus Spoke Zaruthustra he put it this way:

"All-too-many live, and all-too-long they hang on their branches. Would that a storm came to shake all this worm-eaten rot from the tree!”

These leftist "men" who go out in the streets to protest for 'transgender rights' while clad in miniskirts are going to be blown away by the coming storm.
 
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You aren't honestly implying that seeing the migrant crisis as the problem it is is a bad thing, are you?
No. Illegal immigration is indeed a problem, but you can't solve it with just building expensive, stupid walls to let the desperate people die outside, on the streets. Why do so many people only try to treat the symptoms of a disease, instead to find and cure the cause of it?

Improve the countries where they are coming from, so that they don't have the need to flee to somewhere else. That would solve the problem lastingly.
 

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No, it's not. It's helpful to keep **** outside.
It would be better to build a wall around every other country too.

Xenophobic, really? That's just hilarious. I just know that some still act like animals and some don't. And I don't want them here.
Right wing? Hell yeah, and proud.

Gutmenschen wie du sind Schuld daran dass es mit unserem geliebten Deutschland bergab geht, früher oder später werdet ihr erkennen dass ihr wirklich Scheiße gebaut habt.

Dotr when will it come..?




Not so good, as expected.
But people like him are still trying to defend them.
It's just hilarious how blind some people can be.
Well, aren't you quick to generalize. There's *******s in every race, there's bad people everywhere, but you have really ate that shit up entirely of "only Mexicans are rape, murder, bring drugs"

Take a good look at America as a whole. Donald trump is an idiot who will accomplish nothing, just the mere fact that neo nazi's adore him is sickening as **** and it shows who the real "animals" are.
I do question your intellect for defending a guy who wants to put a label on Muslims like hilter did with the jews and build camps to put illegals, as well as take away their kid's citizenship. His ancestors weren't even natives to this lands. Mexicans have more native blood to the continent of america than any one with European or African ancestry.

No. Illegal immigration is indeed a problem, but you can't solve it with just building expensive, stupid walls to let the desperate people die outside, on the streets. Why do so many people only try to treat the symptoms of a disease, instead to find and cure the cause of it?

Improve the countries where they are coming from, so that they don't have the need to flee to somewhere else. That would solve the problem lastingly.
For Mexico to be a good country will be a bit harder seeing how the drug cartel runs the government behind the scenes and their biggest buyers are Americans.
 
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