Top Ten Sith?

[Zexion~]

What the hell? You were the one who said you're not only limited to the movies, yet you're asking me where I took them all from? Those are feats from numerous canon sources, novels, encyclopedias, sourcebooks, works outside of media like games and movies. I've put some of the sources in the quotes in my longer post. If you're asking how I know all this, it's because I've had the same argument on another site that's much more focused than Narutobase when it comes to Star Wars power rankings, so I know what I'm talking about.

Also ''hurr this character wins'' means nothing since you can't support it. You have literally given zero feats. Think what you want, but Sidious has both the feats and hype to support him being the most powerful Sith.

Ive obviously never heard of those sources..... Lol theres been sith who were able to wipe out the Jedi with merely direct combat, or destroy a planet of jedi on their own yet you think the sith who needed to scheme for 50 years in order to barely eliminate them could be on top? Nah fam

 

[Zanji]

Alright now, relatively speaking normally when someone asks who the strongest is yada yada yada, they always ask about characters who either A.) Weren't around when so and so was, or B.) So and so was either too young or too old to be able to stop the other.

Now for the Sith, with how they say there can only be 2, a Master and Apprentice, that Rule was established by Darth Bane, called "The Rule of 2".

But now for the topic at hand, my "Top Ten" Sith, Both Cannon and Legacy (there is no bullshit of this filler shit because Disney decided to say f*ck you to an established history)

1.) Darth Sidious: This guy took on 4 Jedi Masters, at the same time and lived to tell the tale about it, albeit very injured at the end of it. As well as manipulated Anakin for years molding him to become a Sith Lord. Also he managed to turn one of Yoda's pupil's into a Sith Lord, Count Dooku, a.k.a. Darth Tyrannus.
2.) Darth Maul: Only reason I am placing him here is because he is the only man to have ever killed Liam Nesson on screen. Also this guy survived getting cut in half by Obi-Wan Kenobi, after having killed the Jedi Master, Qui-Gon Jinn. As well as trained his own brother to become a Sith.
3.) Darth Vader: This guy was the one of the Greatest Jedi during the clone wars, but sadly gave into the Dark Side and oddly enough became somewhat weaker for it. Anakin was quick, nimble and could easily fight. But as Vader he became slow and only relied on the Force for damn near everything, albeit very strong with the force but not as strong as he was.
4.) Darth Bane: This guy basically took charge of the Sith and established a rule that has lasted a very long time.
5.) Darth Tyrannus: A.k.a. Count Dooku, Leader of the Separatist Army. Trained a Cyborg Kaleesh in the art of the Lightsaber, Master to two Dathomirian's who were powerful with the force, even though he was betrayed by both. Was the Master of Qui-Gon Jinn, and trained several others in how to become a Dark Jedi.
6.) Darth Plagueis: Alright I don't know too much about him, haven't done enough research on him yet, just know what the movies have told us about him.
7.) Savage Opress: Older Brother to Darth Maul, physically one of the strongest Sith ever shown. Was turned into a Nghtbrother on his homeworld of Dathomir thanks to Asajj Ventress (both Asajj and Savae were trained by Tyrannus although Savage's time was quite brief.) Savage even managed to hold his own against Sidious before he muffed up and got killed for it.
8.) 9.) & 10.) Alright these three I will have to put as Darth Nihilus, Malak, and Revan, only because I really don't know too much about them.

Now as for Kylo Ren, sadly he is not a Sith yet. Yes, he does dress like one and has a red lightsaber but no he is not one.......yet

 

[Ambivalence]

Lol theres been sith who were able to wipe out the Jedi with merely direct combat, or destroy a planet of jedi on their own yet you think the sith who needed to scheme for 50 years in order to barely eliminate them could be on top? Nah fam

Obviously neglecting the fact that the Jedi themselves are no pushovers. Mace Windu, Obi Wan, Plo-Koon, all the Jedi Masters were strong as hell. Obviously not stronger than Palpatine, but single-handedly engaging top-tiers was not only not wise, it was not Sidious's style. You've watched the movies, at least there they put emphasis on how he likes to prolong suffering and lives for the culmination where his victory is assured.

And then there was Anakin. The character that would have been the most powerful, had it not been his defeat and power gimp. Palpatine wanted him as an apprentice really badly and preferred to manipulate him and orchestrate the Jedi's ''overthrowing''.

And then there's Yoda. The third most powerful character of Star Wars. Sidious going ham was not an option, fam.

2.) Darth Maul: Only reason I am placing him here is because he is the only man to have ever killed Liam Nesson on screen.

Okay, rep just for that. :lol

 

[The Necromancer]

Obviously neglecting the fact that the Jedi themselves are no pushovers. Mace Windu, Obi Wan, Plo-Koon, all the Jedi Masters were strong as hell. Obviously not stronger than Palpatine, but single-handedly engaging top-tiers was not only not wise, it was not Sidious's style. You've watched the movies, at least there they put emphasis on how he likes to prolong suffering and lives for the culmination where his victory is assured.

And then there was Anakin. The character that would have been the most powerful, had it not been his defeat and power gimp. Palpatine wanted him as an apprentice really badly and preferred to manipulate him and orchestrate the Jedi's ''overthrowing''.

And then there's Yoda. The third most powerful character of Star Wars. Sidious going ham was not an option, fam.



Okay, rep just for that. :lol

There's also the fact that Sidious didn't have that immense power until after his first death, and near one-ness with the dark side of the force in death.

 

[Zexion~]

Alright now, relatively speaking normally when someone asks who the strongest is yada yada yada, they always ask about characters who either A.) Weren't around when so and so was, or B.) So and so was either too young or too old to be able to stop the other.

Now for the Sith, with how they say there can only be 2, a Master and Apprentice, that Rule was established by Darth Bane, called "The Rule of 2".

But now for the topic at hand, my "Top Ten" Sith, Both Cannon and Legacy (there is no bullshit of this filler shit because Disney decided to say f*ck you to an established history)

1.) Darth Sidious: This guy took on 4 Jedi Masters, at the same time and lived to tell the tale about it, albeit very injured at the end of it. As well as manipulated Anakin for years molding him to become a Sith Lord. Also he managed to turn one of Yoda's pupil's into a Sith Lord, Count Dooku, a.k.a. Darth Tyrannus.
2.) Darth Maul: Only reason I am placing him here is because he is the only man to have ever killed Liam Nesson on screen. Also this guy survived getting cut in half by Obi-Wan Kenobi, after having killed the Jedi Master, Qui-Gon Jinn. As well as trained his own brother to become a Sith.
3.) Darth Vader: This guy was the one of the Greatest Jedi during the clone wars, but sadly gave into the Dark Side and oddly enough became somewhat weaker for it. Anakin was quick, nimble and could easily fight. But as Vader he became slow and only relied on the Force for damn near everything, albeit very strong with the force but not as strong as he was.
4.) Darth Bane: This guy basically took charge of the Sith and established a rule that has lasted a very long time.
5.) Darth Tyrannus: A.k.a. Count Dooku, Leader of the Separatist Army. Trained a Cyborg Kaleesh in the art of the Lightsaber, Master to two Dathomirian's who were powerful with the force, even though he was betrayed by both. Was the Master of Qui-Gon Jinn, and trained several others in how to become a Dark Jedi.
6.) Darth Plagueis: Alright I don't know too much about him, haven't done enough research on him yet, just know what the movies have told us about him.
7.) Savage Opress: Older Brother to Darth Maul, physically one of the strongest Sith ever shown. Was turned into a Nghtbrother on his homeworld of Dathomir thanks to Asajj Ventress (both Asajj and Savae were trained by Tyrannus although Savage's time was quite brief.) Savage even managed to hold his own against Sidious before he muffed up and got killed for it.
8.) 9.) & 10.) Alright these three I will have to put as Darth Nihilus, Malak, and Revan, only because I really don't know too much about them.

Now as for Kylo Ren, sadly he is not a Sith yet. Yes, he does dress like one and has a red lightsaber but no he is not one.......yet

Bro those you put 7,8,9 both shit on everyone above.

Your reasoning for Sidious is moot as i've stated there have been Sith that take on the entire Jedi order on their own.

Obviously neglecting the fact that the Jedi themselves are no pushovers. Mace Windu, Obi Wan, Plo-Koon, all the Jedi Masters were strong as hell. Obviously not stronger than Palpatine, but single-handedly engaging top-tiers was not only not wise, it was not Sidious's style. You've watched the movies, at least there they put emphasis on how he likes to prolong suffering and lives for the culmination where his victory is assured.

And then there was Anakin. The character that would have been the most powerful, had it not been his defeat and power gimp. Palpatine wanted him as an apprentice really badly and preferred to manipulate him and orchestrate the Jedi's ''overthrowing''.

And then there's Yoda. The third most powerful character of Star Wars. Sidious going ham was not an option, fam.



Okay, rep just for that. :lol

So all the jedi from the past were pushovers? Even when he had Anakin he took on a combined two Jedi and barely won both times, I ask you again provide some feats of his strength in battle against REAL Jedi or any significant opponent :lol

Sidious is basically the "ill **** up some fodder and be called god" character of the starwars universe.

 

[Zanji]

Bro those you put 7,8,9 both shit on everyone above.

Your reasoning for Sidious is moot as i've stated there have been Sith that take on the entire Jedi order on their own.

Like I said, I haven't done enough research on those three, and I am certain once I get properly read up on them, and a few other Darth Lords that were not mentioned, my standings will drastically change. Right now I am just going off of what my brain is allowing me to remember right now, not much sleep in last 72 hrs lol.

But yeah I know there are Sith Lords that have whooped the shit out of the entire Jedi Order on different occasion just as well as there are Jedi who have taken on several Sith Lords.

 

[Ambivalence]

Bro those you put 7,8,9 both shit on everyone above.

Your reasoning for Sidious is moot as i've stated there have been Sith that take on the entire Jedi order on their own.



So all the jedi from the past were pushovers? Even when he had Anakin he took on a combined two Jedi and barely won both times, I ask you again provide some feats of his strength in battle against REAL Jedi or any significant opponent :lol

Sidious is basically the "ill **** up some fodder and be called god" character of the starwars universe.

Are you joking? How can you even ignore all the feats I've posted and post two meager sentences with a straight face? It took every single Jedi of Luke's time, plus every single Jedi before in order to defeat Sidious eternally. Real Jedi? I'm half-convinced you're just baiting, but in the case you're serious, Luke is the most powerful Jedi/Sith ever, and Sidious is second. Sidious has moved so fast during his duel with Luke that Leia couldn't even see him and could only sense him as a blur of Dark Side energy. Luke himself has ridiculous feats like being able to, with just a twitch of his finger, tear the engines out of a Star Destroyer that was in orbit above the planet, and could also casually survive his X-wing exploding while he was still inside, plus move at sub-lightspeed with his Force Speed, plus so much more. And Sidious equaled him. Luke barely beat him, and that was with the help with Leia's Force Harmony (but Luke at his peak can beat him alone, probably).

You clearly have no idea of the power rankings in SW. By the way, has Exar Kun almost completely eradicated the Jedi and created an empire that would last for years? No? That's what I thought.

Seriously, ''real Jedi''. Post that sh*t on a SW site, please. :lol

 

[The Necromancer]

Are you joking? How can you even ignore all the feats I've posted and post two meager sentences with a straight face? It took every single Jedi of Luke's time, plus every single Jedi before in order to defeat Sidious eternally. Real Jedi? I'm half-convinced you're just baiting, but in the case you're serious, Luke is the most powerful Jedi/Sith ever, and Sidious is second. Sidious has moved so fast during his duel with Luke that Leia couldn't even see him and could only sense him as a blur of Dark Side energy. Luke himself has ridiculous feats like being able to, with just a twitch of his finger, tear the engines out of a Star Destroyer that was in orbit above the planet, and could also casually survive his X-wing exploding while he was still inside, plus move at sub-lightspeed with his Force Speed, plus so much more. And Sidious equaled him. Luke barely beat him, and that was with the help with Leia's Force Harmony (but Luke at his peak can beat him alone, probably).

You clearly have no idea of the power rankings in SW. By the way, has Exar Kun almost completely eradicated the Jedi and created an empire that would last for years? No? That's what I thought.

Seriously, ''real Jedi''. Post that sh*t on a SW site, please. :lol

I just can't understand why you're so upset about this. Chill bro. You're talking about star wars on a naruto chat board. Tone it down.

Literally no one is trying as hard as you are to prove a point. It would almost be admirable if you weren't so wrong.

 

[Ambivalence]

It would almost be admirable if you weren't so wrong.

:lol Mate, you could say anything you like about me, but you literally have not posted no feats, nothing relevant, true, or longer than 3 sentences, nor has that other guy that likes your posts, so how exactly am I wrong?

If you don't have any way to counter, why are you even in this thread? Saving face by throwing insults? :/

Whatever, I'm done here.

 

[The Necromancer]

:lol Mate, you could say anything you like about me, but you literally have not posted no feats, nothing relevant, true, or longer than 3 sentences, nor has that other guy that likes your posts, so how exactly am I wrong?

If you don't have any way to counter, why are you even in this thread? Saving face by throwing insults? :/

Whatever, I'm done here.

I don't need to post feats, because i don't care who you think the strongest Sith Lords are, and I'm not trying to prove to you who they are, I know who the strongest Sith Lords are.

 

[chopstickchakra]

What the hell? You were the one who said you're not only limited to the movies, yet you're asking me where I took them all from? Those are feats from numerous canon sources, novels, encyclopedias, sourcebooks, works outside of media like games and movies. I've put some of the sources in the quotes in my longer post. If you're asking how I know all this, it's because I've had the same argument on another site that's much more focused than Narutobase when it comes to Star Wars power rankings, so I know what I'm talking about.

Also ''hurr this character wins'' means nothing since you can't support it. You have literally given zero feats. Think what you want, but Sidious has both the feats and hype to support him being the most powerful Sith.

I'm not as familiar with the books as the movies but you do know that now, any book's feats set after Return aren't valid until corroborated by the new movies right? So any of those feats that come from a time period after Return aren't valid and as far as canon is concerned now Sidious is dead and not been resurrected.

 

[Goetia]

StarKiller is the strongest

he took down a Stardestroyer with the Force

He guided one down. He didn't pull it out of the sky by himself.

OT:

I can't say. My knowledge of Legends Canon is shaky, and I don't have much interest in current Canon.

Edit:

So many weird lists, lmao.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

The
Eternal Emperor former Sith Lord made Jedi and sith his beyotches

 

[WoldOfFingo]

Wasn't Sidious said to be the most powerfull Sith Lord in the history of the Sith?
If we follow purely canon it his to be him

 

[Zanji]

Alright now after having done some research of the three I had very little to no knowledge of (Nihilus, Malek and Revan) I can safely say that their placements are somewhat different.....


Darth Revan and Darth Sidious are easily top contenders for first place in my opinion, despite Revan becoming a Jedi. He is one powerful S.O.B. utilizing the true Power of the Force, meaning he could wield both the light and the dark at simultaneously. As well as began the rule of two only to have Bane make it such a rule.

Darth Nihilus, and Darth Vader can duke it out for 3rd, with Nihilus being favored in that position only because he can maneuver himself better in combat than Vader can.....go figure gets a mostly robotic body after fighting so many robots and cyborgs but can hardly move like he used to in it.

Darth Malek, I can honestly say I wasn't as impressed with as I probably should have been seeing as he ruled at the same time Revan was still alive, thus making him kinda a blah space in my opinion. But I do give respect to where and what he had accomplished and done so he can contend for sixth place against Tyrannus.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

That doesn't mean he was more powerful though....

And if it was made filler than use the ones that remain canon

-Maul
-Vader
-Dooku
-Sidious
-Ren
-Prettty Sure Plagueis is still canon

And even could throw in some of the "filler"

-Revan
-Malak
-Bane
-Nihilus

Bane showed up in The Clone Wars, so he is still canon.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

1. Sidious
2. Vader
3. Bane
4. Tyranus
5. Maul

I'm not sure where to put Plagueis, but we might see more of him in Episode 8 and 9 if he is Snoke. Since Maul is going to appear in Star Wars Rebels soon, his position might change if he has improved.

 

[jonnieboi05]

All of you giving Sidious high praise...... Yes, he was smart and slightly decent with his power.... BUT.... You do realise that the plan to take out the Jedi and create the Galactic Empire was something that was planned out for thousands of years before he came along, right? He was merely the Sith Lord that happened to be in control when it finally all fell into place.

Talk about ignorance. Sheesh. -_-