Why is Dragon 3rd? I'm pretty sure he's strong but in another way? HmIt's not possible to make top list with characters who don't have haki.
So, I will give it without devil fruits.
1. Gold D. Roger
2. Monkey D. Garp
3. Monkey D. Dragon
4. Shanks / Dracule Mihawk
5. Dracule Mihawk / Shanks
6. Silvers Rayleigh
7. Charlotte Linlin
8. Pre Mera Mera Sabo
9. Jinbei
10. Vista
This is on top of my head, character that don't has any Devil Fruit, ofc some of them could have it, since we never saw their full power.
lol why notIt's not possible to make top list with characters who don't have haki.
garp and rayleigh have haki so how are they on the list?Either this is my list of most powerful characters without using their devil fruits or haki
Roger
Garp
Mihawk/Rayleigh
Because majority of part2 characters have haki(displayed on panel or not) besides fodders. Unless you want us to make list of part1 level people(like Arlong for example) and eventhen some of them have implied haki, unless you want only people who actually displayed itlol why not
Mihawk has haki as well unless you mean a list of people who didn't display hakigarp and rayleigh have haki so how are they on the list?
You think he should be lower?Why is Dragon 3rd? I'm pretty sure he's strong but in another way? Hm
Because it's NW now. Majority of people has it. 10th on my list is Vista, Vista if I remember correctly used haki against Akainu. Not sure about Jinbei, Sabo also has haki. Big Mom is a Yonko and NW pirate, she for sure has haki as well. Silvers and Shanks already used haki. Mihawk as long as I remember hasn't used haki, but it would be weird if he as Shanks' rival and strongest shichibukai don't has it. Garp as Vice Admiral also has haki. Roger and Dragon has 0 feats, but just like Mihawk it would be weird if PK and Most wanted man don't have haki.i said no DFs or haki. most of the characters you all just listed have haki.
meaning you breached the rules of the thread
lol why not
i dont care. i literally dont give two flying fuks.Because it's NW now.
is that so difficult? and not really no, given itd include jinbei and oars jrhan top 10 would be with East Blue Pirates + Baroque Works.
i wasnt aware i asked for part 2. i dont give a **** if you think its difficult to make the list. if you think its too hard, then click awayBecause majority of part2 characters have haki(displayed on panel or not) besides fodders. Unless you want us to make list of part1 level people(like Arlong for example) and eventhen some of them have implied haki, unless you want only people who actually displayed it
Lolll @ Ben beckman being top 5What do you mean by this? Should characters who are devil fruit or haki users be counted in the list without taking them into consideration? Or do you mean only characters who can't use devil fruit or haki at all should be listed?
Either this is my list of most powerful characters without using their devil fruits or haki
Roger
Garp
Mihawk/Rayleigh
Shanks
Ben Beckman
Not sure about the rest
Ever heard about manners? No?i dont care. i literally dont give two flying fuks.
i asked for a list of people who have no haki or DFs
is that so difficult? and not really no, given itd include jinbei and oars jr
i wasnt aware i asked for part 2. i dont give a **** if you think its difficult to make the list. if you think its too hard, then click away
Without haki and df? I don't see why not. Please tell me who(besides the one i listed above) are stronger than him without haki and DFLolll @ Ben beckman being top 5
Jozu? .Without haki and df? I don't see why not. Please tell me who(besides the one i listed above) are stronger than him without haki and DF
I don't see Jozu stronger than Ben Beckman without his DF when even with it, it's already doubtful for me that he is stronger. As Shanks's first mate he should be closer to Marco than Jozu or at most be his equal(when DF is counted). Not to mention i was only counting non-df usersJozu? .
then get off this thread.I'm going to ignore your restriction since most people have haki, even Tashigi has it and now Usopp...
Why is Oars Junior at 3 but Oars is nowhere on the list? Hody>>>Arlong. Kumadori>>Arlong. Fukuro>>Arlong.NO DF & HAKI
1. Jinbei
2. Franky
3. Oars Junior
4. Wiper
5. Gan Fall
6. Nami
7. Arlong
8. Hody Jones
9. Kumadori
10. Fukuro
I don't add Zombies, because they used other people power ... and Arlong>Hody ... give Arlong same drug, he will perform better than Hody ... my opinion. I don't blame you if you not agree. Fukuro&Kumadori ... I change they rank last second... maybe they was better than Arlong.Why is Oars Junior at 3 but Oars is nowhere on the list? Hody>>>Arlong. Kumadori>>Arlong. Fukuro>>Arlong.