[Discussion] Top 10 Strongest Characters on Wano

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Not at all.
Here Luffy destroyed Pica's head simply using G3
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And here u can see G3 has no affect on Cracker's Biscuit. Its fair to say Jack is at same lvl.
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This itself shows that Picas Golem form isn't that strong. Yes the sheer volume takes good amount of power to destroy(as seen both Chinjao n Elizabelo destroyed the arm) n Zoro slicing it is definitely a feat but it cant be compared to Yonko commanders defense. And there offense is atleast G3 lvl. So its safe to assume Jack can also destroy Pica's golem form. With just a good observation, he can beat him easily.

We still need to see how strong Zoro is. Currently its all hype but if they fight i think it will be mid to hard diff fight.
No. I don't think jack defense is even close to crackers nice try though. So because of that. No I still see pica being able to keep up with Jack. He's the first commander of a warlord. Can't be to far off from a 3rd commander of a yonko when doffy himself is 2nd /1st commander level
 

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When? And even Drake has a hybrid and he's an underling. Even Kaku managed to learn the hybrid form despite having only little experience with the fruit. Its crazy to think Jack doesn't have one.
When did someone say he didn't have a hybrid form?

Jack showed up in Zou in his mammoth form remember, ,he switches to his human form after Neko slams him.

I'm looking for the chapter but when it came out and Jack first showed his human form his guys said now he's serious or something to that extent. May have been rough translations? Haven't reread it since.
 

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Dude...
Jack came to Zou, fought Inuarashi and Nekomamushi for like 5 days straight without any breaks, then went on to challenge 4 marine ships which were protected by Fujitora and Sengoku and still managed to sink 2 ships, came back to Zou and tanked Zunisha's trunk attack as if it was nothing. And these are his base form feats...just imagine his hybrid!
Yeah Jack is for sure stronger than Doflamingo,

People seem underestimate Jack these days because he got blitzed by Shutenmaru but Shutenmaru is on a different level (Probably Yonko FM or maybe even above?)
Kaido himself hyped up Shutenmaru by calling him a "strong theif" and he wants him to join his crew.
Please elaborate how jack would defeat doffy. I agree that he is a stamina beast and hell perhaps he has better ardament haki but in what way does that automatically make you stronger?
Duffy is faster smarter has multiple forms of haki and is an awakened df user. Along with this his general moveset (also movement) makes him >Jack (until other feats are shown)

Also since when does stamina = your the stronger fighter?

If that's the case then jinbe and ace are stronger than doffy katakuri cracker smoothie etc

Also, does that make akainu and kuzan stronger than the whole world? The likes of big mom black beard etc Because their fight is known as the longest fight within the series...

If doflamingo flys what is poison going to do if he just continuesly goes higher and higher? How would jack even hit him? Please do not forget though his awakening doffy can attack from all angles via awakening.

Try again dude. Stop sleeping on doffy
 

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No. I don't think jack defense is even close to crackers nice try though. So because of that. No I still see pica being able to keep up with Jack. He's the first commander of a warlord. Can't be to far off from a 3rd commander of a yonko when doffy himself is 2nd /1st commander level
Jack n Cracker are pretty even. Even if he's defense isn't that strong as Cracker he still can take hits as seen with Zunisha's one.
We also saw that he took a nasty hit from Ashura but continue the fight. This itself shows that the guy is beast n can endure hits from his opponents.
Another thing is that a firstmate or executive of a warload cant be compare with Yonko commander. Example: Boa's FM is her sisters which are nowhere near Yonko commanders Or Mr.1 himself was nowhere close to any Commander lvl guy.
 

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Please elaborate how jack would defeat doffy. I agree that he is a stamina beast and hell perhaps he has better ardament haki but in what way does that automatically make you stronger?
Duffy is faster smarter has multiple forms of haki and is an awakened df user. Along with this his general moveset (also movement) makes him >Jack (until other feats are shown)
What can Conqueror haki do against a Yonko commander? It cant knock them out thats for sure.

If doflamingo flys what is poison going to do if he just continuesly goes higher and higher? How would jack even hit him? Please do not forget though his awakening doffy can attack from all angles via awakening.

Try again dude. Stop sleeping on doffy
U are gravely mistaken that Doffy is a long range fighter which he's not.
To prove this lets analyse what he showed in the manga
When he fought Law u can clearly see he's fighting in close range
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same thing with Sanji
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Same with Luffy:
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He used hamstring (another close range attack)
Even when luffy tried to maintain a distance from Doffy he himself close the gap which again shows hes a close range fighter
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Now lets see his mid-long range attacks
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His Overheat was casually stopped by Law.
When he used it against Luffy it had zero effects.
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Now lets see his awakening
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G4 luffy dodged it couple of times.

And Doffy only managed to hit Luffy when he was in his base form.
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Not to forget these threads didn't do much to Luffy. Even Gatz who was hit by his awakening survived the attack n announced Luffy as the winner at the end.
Doffy like hardly did anything against G4 Luffy. And we can agree all commanders are like G4 lvl sort of guys. Your hit n run strategy isnt the way Doffy fight. He uses his strings to fight in close range. His long range attacks are only good against fodders.
 

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What can Conqueror haki do against a Yonko commander? It cant knock them out thats for sure.


U are gravely mistaken that Doffy is a long range fighter which he's not.
To prove this lets analyse what he showed in the manga
When he fought Law u can clearly see he's fighting in close range
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same thing with Sanji
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Same with Luffy:
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He used hamstring (another close range attack)
Even when luffy tried to maintain a distance from Doffy he himself close the gap which again shows hes a close range fighter
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Now lets see his mid-long range attacks
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His Overheat was casually stopped by Law.
When he used it against Luffy it had zero effects.
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Now lets see his awakening
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G4 luffy dodged it couple of times.

And Doffy only managed to hit Luffy when he was in his base form.
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Not to forget these threads didn't do much to Luffy. Even Gatz who was hit by his awakening survived the attack n announced Luffy as the winner at the end.
Doffy like hardly did anything against G4 Luffy. And we can agree all commanders are like G4 lvl sort of guys. Your hit n run strategy isnt the way Doffy fight. He uses his strings to fight in close range. His long range attacks are only good against fodders.
I'm saying if a person is physically stronger then you and you have a way to avoid them do you think that he wouldn't take it?

Also doffy didn't do much to gear 4th what does that even mean? If he didn't why did it require lyffys strongest move to date to put him down? A move that lyffy hasn't used since because every other fighter (katakhri cracker etc) did not have the durability that doffy did. Also if he didn't do much to gear 4th why didn't luffy just one shot him? Instead it took him over 20 min to bypass his awakening.. Yes I'm aware physically gear 4th dominated a organ injured doffy. But speed doffy was able to match it on occasion. Durability despite having messed up organs doffy was able to tank everything bar kkg that gear 4th did to him on top of everything with his battle with law etc.. How is that not doing anything to gear 4th?

And no not all commanders are gear 4th lvl why because there is many things that determine a level not just physical strength

Exp cracker his haki is def gear 4th level

But his physical strength (main body not how hard his crackers are with haki etc) speed durability endurance are not.
Also it doesn't matter if that is not doffys fighting style its a fictional setting. Duffy and jack would never fight why because doffy is partnered with kaido..
 

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Please elaborate how jack would defeat doffy. I agree that he is a stamina beast and hell perhaps he has better ardament haki but in what way does that automatically make you stronger?
Did you seriously just type this? If Jack has better stamina and busoshoku haki then he's obviously stronger than the Mingo! Only thing Mingo has that Jack doesn't is conquerors haki and a pink coat and both are useless in this fight.
Duffy is faster smarter has multiple forms of haki and is an awakened df user. Along with this his general moveset (also movement) makes him >Jack (until other feats are shown)
Intelligence and speed wont matter here. Jack can only be put down by force. A fight with Jack will be a pure brawl just like with Luffy.
Mingo's speed wont do much either if his attack power is crap,
Also since when does stamina = your the stronger fighter?
Already addressed this above but to add another point, If you can drag the fight then Haki will start to get weaker and we already know Jack's a stamina beast so his Haki will last a considerable amount of time.

If doflamingo flys what is poison going to do if he just continuesly goes higher and higher? How would jack even hit him? Please do not forget though his awakening doffy can attack from all angles via awakening.
Oh poison wont be necessary at all. Hybrid form is enough.
And yeah Doffy fly away because for sure as hell he isnt beating Jack CQC.
 

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I'm saying if a person is physically stronger then you and you have a way to avoid them do you think that he wouldn't take it?
Then u are not fighting him. You are basically running away from him as in a direct confrontation you are gone.
Also doffy didn't do much to gear 4th what does that even mean? If he didn't why did it require lyffys strongest move to date to put him down? A move that lyffy hasn't used since because every other fighter (katakhri cracker etc) did not have the durability that doffy did. Also if he didn't do much to gear 4th why didn't luffy just one shot him? Instead it took him over 20 min to bypass his awakening.. Yes I'm aware physically gear 4th dominated a organ injured doffy. But speed doffy was able to match it on occasion. Durability despite having messed up organs doffy was able to tank everything bar kkg that gear 4th did to him on top of everything with his battle with law etc.. How is that not doing anything to gear 4th?
Seriously Cracker n Kata doesn't have durability like Dofflamingo???
It took 12some hours to beat Cracker. We don't even know how many times Cracker evaded G4.
we already saw what Doffy's long distance attack can do. It does nothing unless. U want to post the scan where Doffy impaled few fodders to prove it can do damage to a 3rd commander lvl guy?
His overheat was stopped by law. And his everwhite did nothing to G4.
Only time he was able to do some damage waa when Luffy was in his base form as i already posted.
There's no way a commander defense is that weak as Jozu, Cracker all had some ultimate defence thats not easy to break.
And no not all commanders are gear 4th lvl why because there is many things that determine a level not just physical strength

Exp cracker his haki is def gear 4th level

But his physical strength (main body not how hard his crackers are with haki etc) speed durability endurance are not.
Crackers biscuit count as his strength. Thats the way he fight. Its like saying Doffy's Birdcage doesn't count as he need his clone to activate it. Or his clone doesn't count.

In your last post you brought Different forms of haki which Chinjao, Boa n lots of other guys have but will u say all of them can beat a Yonko 3rd Commander???
Also it doesn't matter if that is not doffys fighting style its a fictional setting. Duffy and jack would never fight why because doffy is partnered with kaido..
It does count. If we see Shanks using Sword then that means his primary fighting style is sword play. Similarly if we see someone whose fighting in close quarters then that means he fights in close quarter. He needs to close the gap between his opponent to strike him.
Your hit n run sort of strategy was never adopted by Doffy even when he was fighting at MF.
 

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IMO top 10 strongest in Wano are:

1. Kaido
2. Luffy
3. Inuarashi (Sulong Form)/ Nekomamushi (Sulong Form)/ Eustass Kidd
5. King
6. Queen
7. Zoro/Sanji (German Suit)
8. Jack/Shutenmaru
10. Law/Hawking/X-Drake
 

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Dude...
Jack came to Zou, fought Inuarashi and Nekomamushi for like 5 days straight without any breaks, then went on to challenge 4 marine ships which were protected by Fujitora and Sengoku and still managed to sink 2 ships, came back to Zou and tanked Zunisha's trunk attack as if it was nothing. And these are his base form feats...just imagine his hybrid!
Yeah Jack is for sure stronger than Doflamingo,

People seem underestimate Jack these days because he got blitzed by Shutenmaru but Shutenmaru is on a different level (Probably Yonko FM or maybe even above?)
Kaido himself hyped up Shutenmaru by calling him a "strong theif" and he wants him to join his crew.
The Dukes didn’t seem stronger than Doflamingo to me so I disagree with him being much stronger than Mingo. But Jacks endurance is probably much better but that’s just one aspect, it’s not like Jack can’t be beaten just because he seemingly can’t be killed. He can still be KO’ed or incapacitated in some way.
He also didn’t tank Zunishas trunk like it was nothing that is extremely false he got knocked the **** out, whites eyes and all he just didn’t end up dying and was left in the ocean so long that he eventually healed, which is still impressive just as not as much as you are making it seem.

Shutenmaru was literally stated to be just as strong as Inuarashi so no he definitely isn’t Yonko FM level and I don’t get why anyone thought he was. Yonko FMs include powerhouses like Katakuri, Marco and King. You aren’t just going to give Kaido two formidable FM level allies.
 

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Shutenmaru was literally stated to be just as strong as Inuarashi so no he definitely isn’t Yonko FM level and I don’t get why anyone thought he was. Yonko FMs include powerhouses like Katakuri, Marco and King. You aren’t just going to give Kaido two formidable FM level allies.
What do you mean? Shutenmaru will be on Luffy's side not Kaido.
And he called Jack a small fry, I think he know's the hierarchy of Kaido's crew. He was also prepared to fight Kaido back when he was drunk and he did fight against Kaido in the past(though with help)
Regarding Inuarashi, weren't they having like a sword fight? Not an actual fight?

Idk I think Zoro will fight Shutenmaru at some point in order to convince him to join the team. Inuarashi couldnt beat him so thats why Shutenmaru didnt join. And at one point he said that "there are no strong samurais left" So I think he will be Zoro's first major fight of this arc, then Zoro will be ready for King.

Also talking about Jack isnt going to get us far but I highly believe he'll beat DD in a fight. Have faith in his Hybrid Form....and perhaps even his Fishman Karate...
 

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Then u are not fighting him. You are basically running away from him as in a direct confrontation you are gone.

Seriously Cracker n Kata doesn't have durability like Dofflamingo???
It took 12some hours to beat Cracker. We don't even know how many times Cracker evaded G4.
we already saw what Doffy's long distance attack can do. It does nothing unless. U want to post the scan where Doffy impaled few fodders to prove it can do damage to a 3rd commander lvl guy?
His overheat was stopped by law. And his everwhite did nothing to G4.
Only time he was able to do some damage waa when Luffy was in his base form as i already posted.
There's no way a commander defense is that weak as Jozu, Cracker all had some ultimate defence thats not easy to break.

Crackers biscuit count as his strength. Thats the way he fight. Its like saying Doffy's Birdcage doesn't count as he need his clone to activate it. Or his clone doesn't count.

In your last post you brought Different forms of haki which Chinjao, Boa n lots of other guys have but will u say all of them can beat a Yonko 3rd Commander???

It does count. If we see Shanks using Sword then that means his primary fighting style is sword play. Similarly if we see someone whose fighting in close quarters then that means he fights in close quarter. He needs to close the gap between his opponent to strike him.
Your hit n run sort of strategy was never adopted by Doffy even when he was fighting at MF.
He didn't have to have a hit and run strategy because he didn't need it at the time. Also it's not running if you are just floating/flying in the air. Have you never heard of long range fighters? Are they running away because they are maintaining distance from their opponent? No. As for cracker he's literally a glass cannon in no way shape or form could he take all of the damage doflamingo took. Yes as I said before his ardament haki is greater then doffys and hell there is a chance his physical attack is as well
But as for intellect endurance speed df mastery etc all plays into effect and doffy wins in those categories

Neither jack nor cracker displayed attacks that can take out someone flying (they may have them but from what we've seen no not yet)
Doflamingo is called the Sky demon for a reason so its not far fetch for him to maintain distance from someona e who can harm a considerable amount within battle. Or to be in the air during the fight as that is considered to be his territory. Both cracker or jack can do that but they'd have to knock him out of the sky in order to do so.

I do consider crackers clones to be apart of his strength, however, when it comes to durability/endurance his clones being there won't matter if his main body is hit. Which it can def be so with awakening. I mean cracker literally let nami weaken his soldiers for 11hrs I believe doflamingo could get one over on him if nami was able to (in terms of intellect)

But yes my point still stands if neither of these fighters have a way of bringing him out of the sky how do they win this fight?
It's like someone without full body haki going against kuma. It's going to be hard af because he has the potential chance to one shot you at any given moment. Same with doffy if he's in the air and you cannot bring him to the ground what are you going to do against him?
 

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But yes my point still stands if neither of these fighters have a way of bringing him out of the sky how do they win this fight? Same with doffy if he's in the air and you cannot bring him to the ground what are you going to do against him?
Are you saying that without any flight or aerial attacks then you cant beat DD?
 

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What do you mean? Shutenmaru will be on Luffy's side not Kaido.
And he called Jack a small fry, I think he know's the hierarchy of Kaido's crew. He was also prepared to fight Kaido back when he was drunk and he did fight against Kaido in the past(though with help)
Regarding Inuarashi, weren't they having like a sword fight? Not an actual fight?

Idk I think Zoro will fight Shutenmaru at some point in order to convince him to join the team. Inuarashi couldnt beat him so thats why Shutenmaru didnt join. And at one point he said that "there are no strong samurais left" So I think he will be Zoro's first major fight of this arc, then Zoro will be ready for King.

Also talking about Jack isnt going to get us far but I highly believe he'll beat DD in a fight. Have faith in his Hybrid Form....and perhaps even his Fishman Karate...
He probably called him a small fry because compared to his captain as well as King and Queen he is. It could also mean that Shutenmaru viewed him as small fry because an old version of his self was still able to blitz a calamity so he was unimpressed with Jack.

Just cause he isn’t afraid of Kaido or Jack doesn’t mean he can beat them come on man you know better than this. He was literally stated to be on par with Inuarashi and Inu couldn’t put Jack down after 11 hours of fighting and switching in and out with Neko.

And what’s crazy is you literally just said Shutenmaru will be Zoros first major fight and then said that King would be the next one. What in the hell would Zoro gain from beating two people on the same level according to your logic? You believe Shutenmaru is YFM level right? Well him and King can’t both be YFM level or else the battle with King is going to be tension less. You pretty much proved that Shutenmaru isn’t YFM level by saying this. He’s YC4 level at best and beneath the disasters. He will still fight Zoro imo but he will be a YC4 fighter for Zoro to beat before he moves his way up to fight King.

I’m not mad at you or nothing but there’s clearly some errors in your logic that I had to point out.
 
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He probably called him a small fry because compared to his captain as well as King and Queen he is. It could also mean that Shutenmaru viewed him as small fry because an old version of his self was still able to blitz a calamity so he was unimpressed with Jack.

Just cause he isn’t afraid of Kaido or Jack doesn’t mean he can beat them come on man you know better than this. He was literally stated to be on par with Inuarashi and Inu couldn’t put Jack down after 11 hours of fighting and switching in and out with Neko.

And what’s crazy is you literally just said Shutenmaru will be Zoros first major fight and then said that King would be the next one. What in the hell would Zoro gain from beating two people on the same level according to your logic? You believe Shutenmaru is YFM level right? Well him and King can’t both be YFM level or else the battle with King is going to be tension less. You pretty much proved that Shutenmaru isn’t YFM level by saying this. He’s YC4 level at best and beneath the disasters. He will still fight Zoro imo but he will be a YC4 fighter for Zoro to beat before he moves his way up to fight King.

I’m not mad at you or nothing but there’s clearly some errors in your logic that I had to point out.
Ok when you say it like that.... :shy:
 
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Are you saying that without any flight or aerial attacks then you cant beat DD?
Not just dd but anyone who flies would give anyone who doesn't have means to get them out of the air a run for their money. I mean almost every top tier (and under) has some sort of arieal moves
Vista mihawk flying slashes
Marco kizaru flight
Kuzan can freeze virtually anything he pleases
Akainu has volcanic eruptions that can be used for long range
Black beard can use his darkness to pull people towards him and his quakr fruit
Big mom flies also her soul ability
Katakuri while he doesn't have flight his fruit is awakened there for he can throw mass amounts of mochi at an aerial opponent
Shanks attack with white beard split the sky so to him being able to attack someone out of the sky isnt far fetched
Kaido is a mofo dragon
Fuji can use his gravity to bring someone out of the sky


Did I miss anyone
People like jozu jack cracker etc
May have extremely high haki ardamet or physical strength but they cannot really attack (until proven otherwise) someone who is in the air out of range (well I guess jozu could throw boulders like how he threw that huge piece of ice but he's leaving himself wide open).
 

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He didn't have to have a hit and run strategy because he didn't need it at the time. Also it's not running if you are just floating/flying in the air. Have you never heard of long range fighters? Are they running away because they are maintaining distance from their opponent? No. As for cracker he's literally a glass cannon in no way shape or form could he take all of the damage doflamingo took. Yes as I said before his ardament haki is greater then doffys and hell there is a chance his physical attack is as well
But as for intellect endurance speed df mastery etc all plays into effect and doffy wins in those
If your opponents Armament is better n his physical attacks are also better than how can someone beat him???
You bring Speed- Cavendish is one of the strongest guy in speed department. Do you see him beating top lvl guys???
U bring that he will keep distance but his overheat was stopped by Law casually n his awakening hit luffy when he was in his base form. We know that to do a considerable amount of damage your armament needs to be stronger than your opponent. And you yourself agree that Jack's armament might be stronger than Doffy. So how will his keep distance strategy works in first place if he cant do any damage?
Neither jack nor cracker displayed attacks that can take out someone flying (they may have them but from what we've seen no not yet)
Doflamingo is called the Sky demon for a reason so its not far fetch for him to maintain distance from someona e who can harm a considerable amount within battle. Or to be in the air during the fight as that is considered to be his territory. Both cracker or jack can do that but they'd have to knock him out of the sky in order to do so.
If he remains at sky then he himself wont do much. How to explain this.
You saw whenever he uses his strings he tried to close the gap to hit his opponents. If hes keeping distance than the whole speed and maneuverability is zero as he's basically trying to stay away from these guys.
I do consider crackers clones to be apart of his strength, however, when it comes to durability/endurance his clones being there won't matter if his main body is hit.
thats the thing. He wear those biscuits like an armor n can created infinite no.of those clones. We saw one need G4 sort of power to break one n still it does nothing to his main body.
To reach to his main body Luffy struggles for 11some hours that too when he had Nami.
Which it can def be so with awakening. I mean cracker literally let nami weaken his soldiers for 11hrs I believe doflamingo could get one over on him if nami was able to (in terms of intellect)
How can Doffy wet those biscuits is beyond me.
But yes my point still stands if neither of these fighters have a way of bringing him out of the sky how do they win this fight?
It's like someone without full body haki going against kuma. It's going to be hard af because he has the potential chance to one shot you at any given moment. Same with doffy if he's in the air and you cannot bring him to the ground what are you going to do against him?
Even Enel had flight. do you think Akainu or Shanks cant beat him?
Keeping distance is one strategy but when it is a deathmatch one need to use skills which he/she is best at and in doffys case it is fight in close quarters with his threads. Thats the way he has always fought.
 
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