[VS] Tobirama vs 1MS Obito

[Gold Lightning]

FTG slash gg.

Plants an FTG kunai in his blind spot, then blitzes an unaware Obito from behind.

 

[Penguin]

Tobirama has literally no info on kamui if we go by the manga, he only fought juubito & he never even encountered intangibility/warps.

Obito can take this with mid diff, tobirama will never think to mark his clones & he'll never think to even use FTG. The fight will start in cqc & once tobirama or obito makes contact tobirama gets warped away.

With full info obito would need a summon to win.

He doesn't need to mark his clone to teleport to his clones.

His clones are made of his chakra.

He can freely teleport to them at will.

If he finds out Obito is an Uchiha, he would definitely make clones to help neutralize genjutsu. If we is getting warped, due to his reactions, he could teleport to a clone mid warp.

After that, Obito has nothing that can hurt Tobirama.

 

[Draphsin]

He doesn't need to mark his clone to teleport to his clones.

His clones are made of his chakra.

He can freely teleport to them at will.

Okay fair enough, I still don't see tobirama creating them to deal with a single uchiha though.

If he finds out Obito is an Uchiha, he would definitely make clones to help neutralize genjutsu.

He didn't do that against izuna, & he's a sensor so he should be able to sense the genjutsu anyways.

I doubt a single uchiha will be enough to make tobirama want to create clones, minato didn't & he had full access to them & slight info on obito's abilities [more than tobirama has in this match].

 

[TRE MERCER]

^ This guy just doesn't quit. You Obito fans with the excuses, and the fanfic. (Obito reacting to JJ Madara's speed)

So he didn't react to Madara? Yes or No?

@Demonsenju Hop off me bro...

 

[VongolaX]

So does Obito stands still and do nothing at all, while Tobirama marks him?

His intangibility is instant, so he can just use intangible kamui alone with other means for offense.

If it to X amount of years for Izuna to get ftg slashed, what makes you think Tobirama can do it in one go?

I'll like to see how an ftg slash will GG an uchiha with his brothers cells, he can heal and use his monstrous strength.

 

[TRE MERCER]

So does Obito stands still and do nothing at all, while Tobirama marks him?

His intangibility is instant, so he can just use intangible kamui alone with other means for offense.

If it to X amount of years for Izuna to get ftg slashed, what makes you think Tobirama can do it in one go?

I'll like to see how an ftg slash will GG an uchiha with his brothers cells, he can heal and use his monterous strength.

Plus he could trap Tobirama in the Uchiha barrier...

 

[VongolaX]

Plus he could trap Tobirama in the Uchiha barrier...

And there you go.

Sharingan genjustu is instant too, fourth databook already confirmed.

 

[KidGamer65]

So he didn't react to Madara? Yes or No?

@Demonsenju Hop off me bro...

Did he react to JJ Madara's Shunshin? Nope. Besides, Kamui automatically lets him slip through things that make contact with him while it's active. That isn't a reaction.

 

[Draegod]

Tobirama stomps.

-Same Hiraishin as Minato that clowned Obito in the past.

-Tobirama's reflexes, and reaction speed>>>MS Obito's reaction speed and reflexes.

-Clones only make it worse.

Once again, Tobirama stomps. Izanagi does nothing but prolong his defeat.

SO whats the difference with the Raikages? They are almost equally fast and Aye has far better reflexes.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

SO whats the difference with the Raikages? They are almost equally fast and Aye has far better reflexes.

Neither minato or tobirama can physically react to kamui, but with ftg the requirements 4 escape is only mental.

Even if the raikages could mentally react the act of moving their actual bodies is far to slow. Where's ftg moves the hokages instantly.

 

[Draegod]

Neither minato or tobirama can physically react to kamui, but with ftg the requirements 4 escape is only mental.

Even if the raikages could mentally react the act of moving their actual bodies is far to slow. Where's ftg moves the hokages instantly.

SO Kamui is faster then Ama? No! Obito/Konan/Madara/Naruto/Kakashi all shown and stated it takes longer to warp others and they have to be at a still motion. So no, Obito does not warp instant, and no where close to instant in fact. He still has to some how restrain the faster opponents (naruto/gai/minato etc) other wise they would move.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

SO Kamui is faster then Ama? No! Obito/Konan/Madara/Naruto/Kakashi all shown and stated it takes longer to warp others and they have to be at a still motion. So no, Obito does not warp instant, and no where close to instant in fact. He still has to some how restrain the faster opponents (naruto/gai/minato etc) other wise they would move.

Kamui is faster than amaterasu by feats.
Kakashi warps moving objects all the time without problems. Konan never stated what you're claiming.

Either way my point is not about obito catching the raikage's it's about the raikages once caught not being able to escape. Obito grabbed minato (catching him) but minato escaped by moving his entire body to a new location instantly.
If obito grabs ay That's not an option. Since he can't move his body fast enough.

 

[Draegod]

Kamui is faster than amaterasu by feats.
Kakashi warps moving objects all the time without problems. Konan never stated what you're claiming.

Either way my point is not about obito catching the raikage's it's about the raikages once caught not being able to escape. Obito grabbed minato (catching him) but minato escaped by moving his entire body to a new location instantly.
If obito grabs ay That's not an option. Since he can't move his body fast enough.

Obito's Kamui is not the same os Kakshi's Kamui. Dont know where you got the notion from. Obito can not Kamui snipe with the right eye, fact! So why are you giving Obito's right eye his left eye feats again?

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Minato was grabbed because he has slow striking speed and would have hit obito but obito phased through him then grabbed him. The Raikages will never be grabbed with there speeds being faster then obito could touch the other. Anything else?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Obito's Kamui is not the same os Kakshi's Kamui.

You are the one that brought up kakashi's kamui.

Dont know where you got the notion from.

I didn't bring up the notion, you did.

Obito can not Kamui snipe with the right eye, fact! So why are you giving Obito's right eye his left eye feats again?

never said he could, but the speeds in which either warps is portrayed to be equal. Hence speed doubling.

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pointless. Since its speed is still far faster than that of a raikage.

Minato was grabbed because he has slow striking speed and would have hit obito but obito phased through him then grabbed him.

You're failing to realize what I'm arguing.

The Raikages will never be grabbed with there speeds being faster then obito could touch the other. Anything else?

Debatable but not the reason I replied to you:

"Either way my point is not about obito catching the raikage's it's about the raikages once caught not being able to escape."

For some reason you're arguing the above. What I'm saying is that if obito gets his hands on them escape is impossible.

 

[Draegod]

You are the one that brought up kakashi's kamui.
I didn't bring up the notion, you did.
never said he could, but the speeds in which either warps is portrayed to be equal. Hence speed doubling.

pointless. Since its speed is still far faster than that of a raikage.

You're failing to realize what I'm arguing.

Debatable but not the reason I replied to you:

"Either way my point is not about obito catching the raikage's it's about the raikages once caught not being able to escape."

For some reason you're arguing the above. What I'm saying is that if obito gets his hands on them escape is impossible.

"If" is correct, but even then what would he do to them in Kamui land? Regardless; they can shock him to the touch if the want to with there armor so he would at the very least would paralyze him (pokemon ref). They have react to far faster attacks opponents. He has to touch them then he mich have a chance, but with them watching each others blind spots and staying alert I don't see that happening.

 

[KidGamer65]

SO whats the difference with the Raikages? They are almost equally fast and Aye has far better reflexes.

Tobirama has Hiraishin, Raikage don't. That's the main difference....though I've changed my mind about Raikage vs. Obito, I think they can take it.

 

[heyguys]

almost like minato vs obito again and tobirama would win.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Tobirama Kage bushin bukkake fest, he doesn't even need Hirashin. A slower Gai was able to pressure obito with nunchuks and foot speed alone.

 

[Xlad]

Tobirama takes this.

 

[Penguin]

Okay fair enough, I still don't see tobirama creating them to deal with a single uchiha though.



He didn't do that against izuna, & he's a sensor so he should be able to sense the genjutsu anyways.

I doubt a single uchiha will be enough to make tobirama want to create clones, minato didn't & he had full access to them & slight info on obito's abilities [more than tobirama has in this match].

False. We saw the end of his fight, and they both looked very tired.

How do you know what went on beforehand?

And Minato had info on Obito without a sharingan that could spew lighter sized katons. Tobirama has more info on Uchiha that Minato.