Tobi who fought minato vs itachi

[Necron]

I'll break your post in 2 parts:
A)

You think it would be that difficult to stay alive? Sasuke managed to survive 10, count them 10 Izanagis.

All you ever do is go on threads and bash Minato. Don't you have anything better to do than get upset at a fictional character and why they are awesome?

What I actually like is anoying minato fanboys, by proving them their idol is lame. About minato himself, I don't give a sh*t: As you said yourself, he is a fictional character...
About the Izanagi: Let's assume you have enough IQ to understand that much: Sasuke was fighting long range, and Danzo didn't have a tech that could seal him instantly. Tobi on the other hand, had such a jutsu, and minato would practically teleport on him!!! As soon as minato stabs him, Tobi sucks him in, and survives thanks to Izanagi.

Minato beat Tobi.

Minato tied the 9-tails. He could have won if he wanted to but he chose to die with his wife. In case you can't read I'll tell you what happened in that chapter. Kushina wanted to take the 9-tails inside of her when she died, so Minato and Naruto would still be alive.

Minato didn't want to do that, so he permanently sealed half of the 9-tails chakra into the death reaper, and put the other half into baby Naruto with the 8 trigrams seal.

Minato basically suicided so he could die with his wife. End of story, no one ever beat him except himself.

Hell no one even hit him in any of the fights we have seen, not one person has managed to hit him with anything.

That second part about him suasiding to die with his wife just proves how retarded you trully are... U_U What kind of father would suaside to be with his wife, leting his own son face the cruel world alone? I was trying to argue with you nicelly and in logical maner, but your claims are so stupid, I just waste my time on you! U_U

I'm not Basing it around "if Tobi has Izanagi Or not".

Tobi Can't suck Minato In, He is just to Fast. Also Tobi can't React to FTG's speed, As shown when Minato rasenganed him.

He wouldn't Know when or How Minato would Teleport to the Marking Planted on him.
I Doubt he could Even react to to it since he couldn't even react to the Rasengan attack.

It's funny that you think Tobi could just Simply Guess when Minato would Teleport to the Marking On him and Set a Trap and Warp him in an instant.

Boy, You're out of your League. Come back when you have a Valid argument or gtfo.



Funny how You didn't Reply the Facts in That post, Just Replyed to my "theres no Point aruging with you" Part.

You're Only defense Vs my arugments is calling me a Fanboy.

I can't argue with your points: you have no points! You just say what you assume, in a retarded way... You're lame, grow up: are you like 10 or something?

also, just in case, try reading all my posts on this thread... your so called "points" have already been countered. I refuse to repeat myself, just because you are a retard! U_U

 

[Exaar]

I'll break your post in 2 parts:
A)

What I actually like is anoying minato fanboys, by proving them their idol is lame. About minato himself, I don't give a sh*t: As you said yourself, he is a fictional character...
About the Izanagi: Let's assume you have enough IQ to understand that much: Sasuke was fighting long range, and Danzo didn't have a tech that could seal him instantly. Tobi on the other hand, had such a jutsu, and minato would practically teleport on him!!! As soon as minato stabs him, Tobi sucks him in, and survives thanks to Izanagi.

You're very quick to insult other people.

Tobi's Warp Isn't "instant", It takes a second or Two. Unless you can Show us a Manga scan?.

That second part about him suasiding to die with his wife just proves how retarded you trully are... U_U What kind of father would suaside to be with his wife, leting his own son face the cruel world alone? I was trying to argue with you nicelly and in logical maner, but your claims are so stupid, I just waste my time on you! U_U

He did want to be with kushina, It was a Selfish act i admit.

Thats why he Said he would Seal their Chakra's Inside naruto, SO they could see him again one day.

kushina Was GOing to Die anyway, Yet Minato still did the Death Reaper Seal (befor he even Got Stabbed) So he was GOing to Die aswell even if the Fox did nothing.

He Also Killed himself To Protect the Village and Keep the balance of Power between the Villages (by sealing the Fox into Naruto)

I can't argue with your points: you have no points! You just say what you assume, in a retarded way... You're lame, grow up: are you like 10 or something?

also, just in case, try reading all my posts on this thread... your so called "points" have already been countered. I refuse to repeat myself, just because you are a retard! U_U

You must have Trouble Reading then.

My Points are:
Tobi didn't Kill Minato, he killed himself.
Tobi Retreated, So he Lost.
Even If Tobi had Stuck around he would have Lost.

You havn't Countered Any of my Posts, All you have done is call me a fanboy and Names.

I know its hard for you to understand, But just accept minato Beat tobi.

I have Answered all your Claims, Yet you only Reply with insults.


Also you say i All i do is Asuume?, Let me list all of your assumptions.
Tobi Has izanagi.
Tobi can Warp Minato
Tobi can Track/React when Minato Uses FTG to teleport to him.

hypocrite Much?

Bring on all your Arugments and COunters to my Post, I shall Beat them all Incase i already Havn't

 

[Necron]

Instead of wasting my presious time, repeating myself, I just bolded and underlined the last sentance of my previous post.

 

[Wakoo]

tobi would reck itachi he will play with him the whole time all he has to do is let itachis attacks go right through him and then just destroy him i love itachi but he doesnt have a chance

 

[acdcrockgods]

itachi would win simply b/c tobi was terrified of itachi. he did what ever itachi ask he. he didnt go after the leaf b/c itachi said so, he didnt go after sasuke b/c itachi said so, and he didnt try to step of itachi toe's b/c itachi said so, plus tobi said it in the manga's along with zetsu that itachi was to strong to live under his leadership and he wreck him in a fight

 

[acdcrockgods]

ppl forget that itachi has that crazy blade that can suck you into a bottle forever! that blade can suck anything into it, bijuu's, ****ing demonic statues, zombi ninja's there's no limit to it. plus im sure itachi had much more shit to wreck tobi b/c tobi was very scared of itachi did you see how he wrecked that ****ing rinnagan monster that nagato had with him with ease? than went to to wreck nagato so point made

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

He didn't defeat him Tobi retreated, if that counts as winning I guess he did

People need to re-evaluate what a "win" means.

A win is not using Death Reaper Seal or Deidara's suicide technique. That is called a draw if you both die.

A win is when you force your opponents to retreat, seeing as Minato took off Tobi's arm, meaning no handsigns.

A win is when you kill your opponent.

A win is when your opponent uses a suicide jutsu to take you out but you still survive.

So Minato won against Tobi. Minato lost to the Kyuubi, seeing as Minato is dead and the Kyuubi is currently working with Naruto.

Deidara lost to Sasuke, seeing as Sasuke caused him to use a move that failed.

Hiruzen lost to Orochimaru. Hiruzen died and Orochimaru lost his arms which he later regained. I don't care about prime Hiruzen, point is, he lost.

And nobody be smart with me and mention the Sasuke vs. Itachi fight. We know why Sasuke won.

 

[Uchiha Madara.]

Itachi

 

[Madara mhm]

Itachi may have had a chance considering the fact that he used his susano'o, but i doubt he'd use that in his condition and tobi weilds the ems / ms. so he probaly knows how to counterattack susano'o

 

[Onion Soda]

Spoiler

Well Minato is actually the perfect opponent for people using summons or controlling others. ( He is also the perfect opponent for non-perfect jinchurikki for the same reason that I am about to tell you)

Minato's sealing jutsus give him a huge advantage over anyone using summons because all he has to do is break the contract with his sealing jutsu. He did it to the 9-tails and Tobi while marking him with an FTG tag at the same time.


The reason why he is the perfect opponent for jinchurikki who aren't partners with their bijuu is that he can undo the seal, or alter it, to make the tailed beast gain control and go on a rampage. Or he can just use a sealing jutsu to mess up their ability to access their chakra.

Orochimaru did it to Naruto in Part 1 and Minato is infinitely better at sealing than Oro.

Well it is all about match ups. I explained in the spoiler why Minato was the perfect opponent in that fight.

Itachi might be able to win but he would have a hard time with the 9-tails. His only hope would be to use the Totsuka sword on the 9-tails, and then fight Tobi.

Totally agree.

BTW, the matter with Tobi "fearing" Itachi, doesn't mean Itachi>Tobi. if it were that way, answer me this: why didn't Itachi just took on him, thus freeing konoha from a future treat which is Tobi? Because he couldn't.
Tobi didn't wanted to fight Itachi 'cuz, in spite of winning, it will mean a pyrrhic victory that would let him very woundeed and his plans in danger.

 

[Onion Soda]

The matter with Tobi "fearing" Itachi, doesn't mean Itachi>Tobi. if it were that way, answer me this: why didn't Itachi just took on him, thus freeing konoha from a future treat which is Tobi? Because he couldn't.
Tobi didn't wanted to fight Itachi 'cuz, in spite of winning, it will mean a pyrrhic victory that would let him very woundeed and his plans in danger.

So, Tobi (specially with kyuubi) > Itachi

 

[jtolliver87]

tobi takes this because honestly you cant defeat S/T without S/T or some all encompassing jutsu that covers alot of area and itachi has neither

 

[xxSAGExx]

I created this thread cause minato defeated him, and I want to see if u guys think itachi can

He didn't defeat him Tobi retreated, if that counts as winning I guess he did

Tobi had to leave, Minato used a seal to break Tobi's control over the fox but before he did that Minato marked him with his FTG seal. Tobi didn't notice until Minato teleported to him and stabbed him with a kunia, so yes Minato won. Tobi knows when he can't win, if he could of won then he would have.

Well minato delt with both y cant itachi

Because it was already said Itachi wanted to kill Tobi but obviously he couldn't. We get this info from how Tobi talked about how Itachi joined Akatsuki to watch him and protect Konoha. Itachi even put Amaterasu in Sasuke's eye to protect him frm Tobi, Itachi knew Tobi would go after Sasuke after he died so don't you think Itachi would have killed him if he could. Tobi has said himself he knew everything about Itachi and knows more about the Uchiha's history and jutsus than Itachi does. It's pretty easy to figure all of that out, Amaterasu didn't kill him and Kamui wouldn't either. Tobi is the 2nd Uchiha shown to control the fox with the 3 tomoe sharingan (1st being Madara) and even managed to control a perfect jinchuuriki from some unknown means so I highly doubt Tsukuyomi would have any effects on him too since Madara was only able to control the fox with 3 tomoes after geting EMS.

 

[chaeluwa]

are you guys sure that tobi is the one who fought minato that year ago.. remember the tale of kakashi there still young ang tobi died on there after saving kakashi... i think the mask man who fought minato was uchiha shisui friend of uchiha itachi..

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

are you guys sure that tobi is the one who fought minato that year ago.. remember the tale of kakashi there still young ang tobi died on there after saving kakashi... i think the mask man who fought minato was uchiha shisui friend of uchiha itachi..

Ur talking about obito

 

[Virus..]

tobi

 

[Naruto Boss]

tobi over itachi

 

[destined 2 win]

tobi wins 100% everytime beacuse

1.tobi's speed is on par of minato. remeber it was a very fast fight.
2.itachi do not have any answer to tobi's space time ninjutsu
3.tobi can fight for hours and has a strong sharingan and could summon even 9 tail fox. so all itachi could do is fight with M.S and susanoo amatersu.
4.totsuka sword cant seal tobi and amatersu cant burn tobi bcz he will teleport himself and makes himself intangeble
5.tobi can use 9 tail fox to attack and break up itachi's susanoo and kill him with constant attack of TTb
6.itachi's tsukuyomi might be a factor but tobi knows everything about itachi . in fact he seeems to know everything everydetail hence he knows how to break it or evade it. he even knows weakness and secrets of itachi.

7 finally dont forget the sharingan not in M.S form of tobi if could control 9 tail fox then just feel how strong tobi is???? he is way above itachi:izuna:

 

[mikeyboy]

who's to say itachi can't put up an exploding shadow clone and make tobi think its the real one only to have it detonate neaer his brain. Cmon now you guys r underestimating itachi. Even tobi stated that if itachi knew everything about him he would have been dead.



Plus for the people w say tobi didn't lose to minato he simply ran away and won. Let me ask u, if we r in a fight and I kick your ass and make u run away and then I get killed in a drive by 5 mins later did you beat me?

 

[Adamx1337]

tobi