Tobi was NOT scared of Itachi.

[KidGamer65]

now your just clutching straws

No i'm not.

When Tobi said he would be dead, he said right now, just after he got hit by Amaterasu, you are assuming he meant that Itachi could kill him at any given time when that's not what he said.

You are assuming just because they partnered up during the massacre and agreed not to kill Sasuke that he was sacred of him.

Even if Itachi knew everything about Tobi's Kamui, it's pointless if he doesn't have the necessary abilities to counter it.

 

[-Broly-]

No i'm not.

When Tobi said he would be dead, he said right now, just after he got hit by Amaterasu, you are assuming he meant that Itachi could kill him at any given time when that's not what he said.

You are assuming just because they partnered up during the massacre and agreed not to kill Sasuke that he was sacred of him.

Even if Itachi knew everything about Tobi's Kamui, it's pointless if he doesn't have the necessary abilities to counter it.

"Id be dead right now" so now your breaking down his sentence lol id be dead right now could mean at any point in time before that sentence he could have been dead due to something that happened in the past. See your making assumptions as well that he was talking about that one incident

SOOOOOO is that why tobi said itachi was a problem to his plans lol.

its an assumption but a pretty good one no? He listened to whatever Itachi said with him and clearly Itachi threw a wrench in his plans. Now if he were stronger than itachi and he was a problem why not kill him?

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

Haven't seen one person be scared of itachi. Or run from him. He's overrated. Tobi can easily beat itachi. If you disagree you are a fanboy.

 

[Kinimaster]

Thats only one of the million translations on which he indirectly says he was afraid.

 

[-Broly-]

Haven't seen one person be scared of itachi. Or run from him. He's overrated. Tobi can easily beat itachi. If you disagree you are a fanboy.

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But just to prove you wrong
In the ninja war the people at the headquarters were scared that Itachi had been brought back because they thought he had put a whole squad in genjutsu

 

[sanchy]

I understand where u coming from. They had a deal. I believe the deal was " I will kill the whole Uchiha clan and while I'm still alive (Itachi), u will promise to never lay ur hands (Tobi) on Konoha". Gat to give it to Tobi and the Atkasuki for honouring that deal until Itachi's death.

 

[KidGamer65]

"Id be dead right now" so now your breaking down his sentence lol id be dead right now could mean at any point in time before that sentence he could have been dead due to something that happened in the past. See your making assumptions as well that he was talking about that one incident

SOOOOOO is that why tobi said itachi was a problem to his plans lol.

its an assumption but a pretty good one no? He listened to whatever Itachi said with him and clearly Itachi threw a wrench in his plans. Now if he were stronger than itachi and he was a problem why not kill him?

He most likely did not want to get into any unecessary battles (Assumption)

Still does not change the fact that Itachi can't beat Tobi.

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

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Truth hurts right?

There is no way in hell itachi can beat obito. I want you to tell me how itachi can inflict any kind of damage to obito? How? He can't. Obito knows everything there is to know about itachi from his base sharingan to his MS. Amaterasu won't work on him manga proved that. Obito knows all about itachis tsukuyomi and wouldn't allow himself to be caught in it. How will susanoo hit obito if he can't be hit?!

Please explain to me how itachi beats him cause I just don't see it. I'm waiting...

 

[Somnath Ghosh]

if tobi was not scared of itachi then why didn't he attacked konoha when itachi is alive.i am not saying that obito was weak but he was pretty much afraid of itachi's amatersu and sasunoo

 

[-Broly-]

Truth hurts right?

There is no way in hell itachi can beat obito. I want you to tell me how itachi can inflict any kind of damage to obito? How? He can't. Obito knows everything there is to know about itachi from his base sharingan to his MS. Amaterasu won't work on him manga proved that. Obito knows all about itachis tsukuyomi and wouldn't allow himself to be caught in it. How will susanoo hit obito if he can't be hit?!

Please explain to me how itachi beats him cause I just don't see it. I'm waiting...

lol yes even though i proved your first point wrong right? Ayy but you know what kishimoto seems to know how Itachi can beat him which is why he put these type of things in his manga lol. Now if you dont like the way he's written his manga you gotta argue with him my brother lol

He most likely did not want to get into any unecessary battles (Assumption)

Still does not change the fact that Itachi can't beat Tobi.

lol there you go assuming
Unnecesary battles? he was a problem in his plans lol all the OTHER people that were problems were killed by him or he fought them in some way. The 4th, Konan, Danzo but guess what the one person he didnt dare try to fight was Itachi. Its so obvious that obito said itachi could have killed him and like another member posted earlier that was one of many translations that indirectly said he was scared. And the proof that he was scared is allll there. He didnt attack konoha, He didnt kill sasuke, He didnt try to attack Itachi, not directly or indirectly and he said Itachi was a problem lol i think you just dont WANT to believe the facts really

 

[Bogard]

Obito was never scared of someone besides from Madara, and it was pretty clear when Kabuto arrived with his Edo tensei army. Kabuto brought back Itachi, Nagato and others, but Obito was still speaking arrogantly as if he didn't fear them at all. The only moment he feared is when he saw Madara being summoned. He never feared Itachi. Don't know where this BS come from

 

[KidGamer65]

lol there you go assuming
Unnecesary battles? he was a problem in his plans lol all the OTHER people that were problems were killed by him or he fought them in some way. The 4th, Konan, Danzo but guess what the one person he didnt dare try to fight was Itachi. Its so obvious that obito said itachi could have killed him and like another member posted earlier that was one of many translations that indirectly said he was scared. And the proof that he was scared is allll there. He didnt attack konoha, He didnt kill sasuke, He didnt try to attack Itachi, not directly or indirectly and he said Itachi was a problem lol i think you just dont WANT to believe the facts really

YOU don't want to believe the facts, it as simple as this: Itachi can't hit Tobi, so how does he win, what does Itachi do to defeat Tobi, tell me this and then i'll believe Itachi>Tobi, but until then i'll stick with Tobi>Itachi.

Also this is the absolute translation because it's VIZ no other translation is better than this,

 

[-Broly-]

Then he said he would be back "and this time, I won't lose." And then Minato said "Somehow I get the feeling he wasn't lying..." Yeah, he lost his arm, but he didn't seem too incapable of continuing on. I know Minato put the seal on him, but Tobi's intangibility is almost like a reflex. The only reason Minato hit him was because he was beginning the process of absorbing and didn't switch back.

With one arm im almost sure Minato would have finished him off in due time, but you do bring up some good points although tobi did say that im almost sure that Madara would squash him lol

YOU don't want to believe the facts, it as simple as this: Itachi can't hit Tobi, so how does he win, what does Itachi do to defeat Tobi, tell me this and then i'll believe Itachi>Tobi, but until then i'll stick with Tobi>Itachi.

Also this is the absolute translation because it's VIZ no other translation is better than this,

So you see all this manga fact and all the proof backed up by manga and you are still asking me how he'd beat him right? Im just asking so I can know my next course of action. If you can counter MY manga proved points with manga prove points and please note that "oh how would he hit him" is not one of them then ill tell you

 

[Strata Uchiha]

Let me put it like this....

If Tobi was stronger than Itachi, then he wouldn't of made a truce with him.

He was intimidated by Itachi's power which is why he left Konoha alone.

 

[KidGamer65]

With one arm im almost sure Minato would have finished him off in due time, but you do bring up some good points although tobi did say that im almost sure that Madara would squash him lol



So you see all this manga fact and all the proof backed up by manga and you are still asking me how he'd beat him right? Im just asking so I can know my next course of action. If you can counter MY manga proved points with manga prove points and please note that "oh how would he hit him" is not one of them then ill tell you

Your manga points are all based on the assumption that Tobi was scared of Itachi, I'm using their abilities.

You obviously have no answer since you're trilling me to counter your "manga proved points" before you tell me, when you could end the debate by telling me right here.

Now If Itachi were to ever attack Tobi and try to kill him, how would he win.

 

[-Broly-]

Obito was never scared of someone besides from Madara, and it was pretty clear when Kabuto arrived with his Edo tensei army. Kabuto brought back Itachi, Nagato and others, but Obito was still speaking arrogantly as if he didn't fear them at all. The only moment he feared is when he saw Madara being summoned. He never feared Itachi. Don't know where this BS come from

Why the manga of course my good sir. Like i said i have proven points backed by tobi's prior actions, statements from him and just the manga in general that cannot be denied. Now if you can come up with something other than "how would he beat him" Ill concede. How did Hashirama beat Madara? Can you honestly give me a proven way Hashirama beat him based on what weve seen? or how about how the 3rd is better than hashirama? After all it was stated in THE MANGA that the 3rd was the strongest hokage of all time and I bet you cant come up with a way that hed beat hashirama full powered with the knowledge that Hashirama beat madara. If we went by ability then wed say nagato could defeat Hashirama right? But from who Hashi has beat and what has been said about him we know that thats just not true? See what happens when you go by ability instead of fact. Clearly Kishimoto thinks that Itachi could have killed obito and if you want proof youll just have to ask him i suppose. You see your going off what YOU believe and im going from what kishimoto has said throughout the manga


This goes out to you as well KidGamer

 

[Bogard]

Let me put it like this....

If Tobi was stronger than Itachi, then he wouldn't of made a truce with him.

He was intimidated by Itachi's power which is why he left Konoha alone.

When did he encountered Itachi? When he was 13 i think. The last time he attacked the leaf was when Itachi was something like 4 or 5. So 8 or 9years passed since that time. So if it's his meeting with Itachi that made him change his point of view, why didn't he attack Konoha before that, during all that time? It's the question you must ask yourself. And we still don't know the answer yes, maybe he was still hurt because of his battle against Yondaime? Maybe he had another important task to do? So nothing shows that whether he made the pact with Itachi or not was really important for him at that time, since nothing proves he really wanted to attack Konoha at that time. If he really wanted he could have done it earlier, why didn't he tried to capture Naruto since then for example(with his jutsu it would have been simple)? There are many things we don't know

 

[-Broly-]

When did he encountered Itachi? When he was 13 i think. The last time he attacked the leaf was when Itachi was something like 4 or 5. So 8 or 9years passed since that time. So if it's his meeting with Itachi that made him change his point of view, why didn't he attack Konoha before that, during all that time? It's the question you must ask yourself. And we still don't know the answer yes, maybe he was still hurt because of his battle against Yondaime? Maybe he had another important task to do? So nothing shows that whether he made the pact with Itachi or not was really important for him at that time, since nothing proves he really wanted to attack Konoha at that time. If he really wanted he could have done it earlier

Thats why lol. The fact is if he really wasnt scared why didnt he kill sasuke? Whats one more no name uchiha to kill? Because Itachi told him not to and he obeyed. Why not just kill itachi at ANY point throughout the time he was alive if Itachi was a problem? Thats the question you must ask yourself

 

[KidGamer65]

Why the manga of course my good sir. Like i said i have proven points backed by tobi's prior actions, statements from him and just the manga in general that cannot be denied. Now if you can come up with something other than "how would he beat him" Ill concede. How did Hashirama beat Madara? Can you honestly give me a proven way Hashirama beat him based on what weve seen? or how about how the 3rd is better than hashirama? After all it was stated in THE MANGA that the 3rd was the strongest hokage of all time and I bet you cant come up with a way that hed beat hashirama full powered with the knowledge that Hashirama beat madara. If we went by ability then wed say nagato could defeat Hashirama right? But from who Hashi has beat and what has been said about him we know that thats just not true? See what happens when you go by ability instead of fact. Clearly Kishimoto thinks that Itachi could have killed obito and if you want proof youll just have to ask him i suppose. You see your going off what YOU believe and im going from what kishimoto has said throughout the manga


This goes out to you as well KidGamer

We have seen Hashirama's jutsu so that comparison is moot, every Mokuton jutsu ever used belongs to him, and even based on ability Nagato can't beat Hashirama.

Hashirama vs Madara comparison is also moot because it was already outright stated who won that fight.

In the end you have to go off of ability because that's how all conclusions are solved in Naruto by fighting with abilities.

You still haven't told me how Tobi can beat Itachi.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

I agree