[Theory] Tobi: Thread for all Tobi theories and related discussions .

Who do you think Tobi is:

  • Jubbi

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Sage of Six Paths

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Elder son of Sage of Sixth Path

    Votes: 65 9.3%
  • Izuna uchiha

    Votes: 105 15.0%
  • Kagami uchiha

    Votes: 71 10.1%
  • Obito Uchiha

    Votes: 77 11.0%
  • Fugaku Uchiha

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Zetsu

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Madara's split personality (created before original body died.)

    Votes: 66 9.4%
  • A copycat whose rolemodel is Madara.

    Votes: 13 1.9%
  • Tobirama

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • An unknown Uchiha

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Real Madara in Zetsu body

    Votes: 28 4.0%
  • Some one from Madara's time ( can't decide though)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Danzou

    Votes: 8 1.1%
  • Setsuna Uchiha

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Shisui

    Votes: 14 2.0%
  • An Uzumaki

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • Madara's Son

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • A woman

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Obito's father

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Someone Other than these

    Votes: 24 3.4%
  • First Edo tensie

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • An alien ( Superman/ HeMan/whatnot)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • I am the best. I have no theory. ( Not anymore at least.)

    Votes: 22 3.1%

  • Total voters
    700
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Re: TOBI can possibly be kagami (theory)

Why would tobi be a character that we saw in a flashback?

Even if it was, wouldn't danzo recognize him and his S/T technique?
 

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Re: TOBI can possibly be kagami (theory)

I agree it is Kagami Uchiha or Izuna Uchiha.

Kagami Uchiha wasn't even there during the 9 nine tails attack ethier.
 

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Re: TOBI can possibly be kagami (theory)

and also i nagato was madaras son too with an uzumaki woman and i think because the uzumaki are related to the senju when the kid was born he had rinnegan because he had senju and uchiha dna but it is a theory and i have bo proof but what ever time will tell
 

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Re: TOBI can possibly be kagami (theory)

and also i nagato was madaras son too with an uzumaki woman and i think because the uzumaki are related to the senju when the kid was born he had rinnegan because he had senju and uchiha dna but it is a theory and i have bo proof but what ever time will tell
Nagato wasn't Madara's son. Nagato was a random Uzumaki from Ame and Tobi implanted the Rinnegan eyes on him. And the Rinnegan has nothing to do with Senju blood, it's purely an evolution of the Sharingan.
 

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Re: TOBI can possibly be kagami (theory)

you are all blind fans of naruto. tobi is izuna, listen

madara was ones in the same team with the rikudou sennin and an hyuga girl, and all the 3 were fighting to insure peace in the world. but before the rikudou died he revealed the juubi secret to madara and hoped that madara will make sure the biju do not meet to awake the juubi. he even engrave the secret on a stone and put it within the uchiwa clan to remember madara that his is to ensure that the 9 biju do not meet. in case they accidentally meet and the juubi awakes, he showed madara a jutsu that will enable him seal the juubi power into hiself and another jutsu to control the juubi power to his advantage, all this to ensure that the juubi do not bring disaster to the world. as time went on, madara could not keep that promise and concluded that he want to be powerful and praised like his old friend(rikudou) and then revealed the secret to his brother izuna. izuna decided to help him do his evil plans so was rewarded with the sharigan.they decided to train hard to become powerful enough to capture the 9 biju and awake the juubi, after which madara will use the jutsu showed to him by the rikoudou to seal into hiself the juubi power and control it to his advantage. everyday they went separately from village to villages challenging and killing the strongest and in the end of the day they meet to have a fight to see who is improving faster. madara then meets the senju hashirama and challenges his but he could not defeat him, they then became friends and founded a village(konoha). madara told then about that to his brother and ask him to go ahead and locate the 9 biju, when he is done, madara himself will use the jutsu giving to him by the senin to unit their powers and seal it into his own body. madara also revealed the secret to senju believing that senju will help him go about his evil plans. senju the concluded that madara is dangerous and he wants to break all realtion with him, but since they are the founders of konoha, they will fight and the loser will leave the village. the winner was senju and became the first hogake. after the fight madara predent to bve dead because of the shame, when the senju get away from the battle field, madara goes back to meet his brother. they continue trainning but because of what happened to him at konoha he gain more hatred and killed more then his brother even people close to him. by so doing he ignored that his sharigan was getting powerful and he will soon be in darkeness. they then detected the 9th biju(kyuubi) who was very noisy, but madara became blind and so he showed on of jutsu to his brother to control the kyuubi gave the remaining sharigan power in his eyes to izuna. by doing so they automaticaly discovered the ultimate mangyeku sharigan. he then tell izuna to use the jutsu to controle kyuubi and destrot konoha and his old friend who defeated him to become hokage(senju hashirama) otherly he will be an obstacle to them since he did not agree to help he madara to go about his evil plan. he also warned izuna not reveale that he is dead or it will be a shame on him. so izuna then uses the identity of madara to accomplish madara's will. he controls kyuubi to destry konoha for the 1st time. the 2nd time he failed because the hogake a that time was minato mamikaze and his was already alert about the man who uses kyuubi to destroy konoha so he prepare for him. minato then seals the kyuubi power into his own son knowing that one day the so called madara(izuna) will come again, but then his son naruto will face him with the help of the kyuubi power. izuna then lost the kyuubi so he disappeared for sometime when he head of the akatsuki and he took that chance to continue his brother wishes. he then convainced the akatsuki leaders and enter the organization with the name of tobi. in the 4th ninja war the real madara appear with bandage all over his body and dark eyes which show that he really gave his eyes his brother but not the versa. he came to help his brother killed the 5 kage and then take the remaining jubi so that he can get his real appearance and become ultimate like the rikudou, but they will fill.

someone will ask if tobi is izuna why is it that he has one eye, because izuna has two eyes.
the fact that tobi is wearing the mask do not mean that he has one eye, have you eve seen the face behind the mask?
the mask with one eye holl symbolizes the juubi one eyes and the circle on the mask symbolizes the circle in the juubi eyes. the sharigan tods symbolizes the one in the juubi eyes. izuna chose this mask to symbolizes he and madara dream to get to juubi's power.
 

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Re: TOBI can possibly be kagami (theory)

LET ME PUT MY FLAME PROOF JACKET ON , i made this thread becuz i belive that tobi is kagami, kagami time space ninjutsu has been said to be similar to the 2nd hokage, Tobirama's jutsu and kagami was in the same team as him so it is possible he somehow learned it and perfected it.
Tobi might be UCHIHA KAGAMI.. who might be the son of madara and probably possesses his eye(s). He has been shown to have similar hair as shisui which may have led him to hold a grudge against danzo and co. and probably the reason why he got angry when kabuto talked about reviving him through his eye. We know that kagami and danzo had similar goals/interests so its possible that this is the reason why the blood mist village while under the control of tobi and root under the control of danzo had similar practices.

Tobi constantly refers to himself in the third person just as he did with kakashi,yamato and naruto just before the kage summit which means he seems determined that people know this, as if trying to decieve them into thinking and fearing the fact that he is madara. While madara was fabled to hold the Eternal Mangakyou Sharingan, Tobi has failed to even show us a mangakyou sharingan. He has not used ameterasu once as has been said that madara was one of the first use it.

This leads me to a theory. We all know that Kagami Uchiha was amoungst the ranks of the past and present powers of konoha. Who is to say he kept on good terms?
Check this, Tobi was said to have helped Itachi with the massacre for the greater good of konoha but Madara would've never agreed to such a thing, with the pride of his clan in his heart, who would? Kagami was friends with someone thought to conspire against the uchiha, he would've been an outcast amoungst the uchiha and whilst this is happening his team might have his back but the other villagers would grow suspicious.

As years go on He begins to start a family with a woman and bear a child named "Shi Sui" (as some people have noticed the resemblance). As years go on so do relations age. The elders made the decision to kill off the uchiha and danzou and Itachi Obliged. Danzou kills Kagami's and took his eye. The elders had all decided to kill off the uchiha regardless of there ties with kagami and kagami decided to go on the war path not against konoha but his heartless friends by using the one weapon to which they didn't expect, an uchiha surviver. He uses the name "Tobi" as an antagonisation to his former friends, a play on the name "Tobirama" his former teacher who he had trusted as his friend and mentor and who would have saved his clan and the village at the same time. i save the ther best for last, more details later, your thoughts
Where does it say that Kagami was a space time ninjutsu user?
 

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Our good boy tobi

Tobi is a special madara+ harishima clone..reasons why..
(predictions for that:he is half madara and half harishima clone rite side madara and left harishima just like zetsu but with full powers..even the faces)
1. He used izangi frm left eye having half senju body just as danzo
2.has planted rinnegan only in left eye coz a lot of chakra which senju hav is required
3.only possibly then he knows truth about madara and so secrets of sharingan & rinnengan
4. say what is behind the mask and not who is behind the mask...if it were izuna or obito or any other theory man he would have said 'who is'
 
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