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[Uchiha Dan]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

iLike the idea. Could possibly happen. Only time can tell.

 

[Hipster Madara]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

Too much to read.

there is no way in hell im reading all of that, all icould say is its not obito or shisui

lol, then dont comment

but i sure hope its not obito or shisui...

 

[Disquiet]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

to give more on that shisui theory, look at my thread, he was definitely up to something, but was it good or bad?

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[Roy]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

Tobi is neither Obito or Shisui, for reasons given countless of times already so I won't even bother explaining U_U

 

[Rexoniel]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

Neither of the two are nameless. They're named Uchiha and that alone is enough to turn my stomach. Shishui doesn't even get face time in the manga yet even he gets some random power boost from part one (suddenly he's a MS user when it was never mentioned before) simply because he's an Uchiha. No, I don't think there's any chance of him being Tobi since the story went through the trouble of explaining that he loved Konoha so much that somehow a raven with his eye that Naruto spat out is enough to get Edo Itachi to break free from Kabuto's control so he can protect Konoha. I swear, just saying this plot doesn't sound realistic to me. Sounds like the writers were high when they came up with this way for Itachi to gain control of himself. As for Obito, I'm not going to waste my breath for why it wouldn't be him,because even with all the evidence against it, people will go on clinging to the idea.

 

[Ascendant]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

I doubt Tobi put his life on the line for anyone

 

[Uchiha Kentaro]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

oh im def gunna read that

 

[Armilli]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

Neither of the two are nameless. They're named Uchiha and that alone is enough to turn my stomach. Shishui doesn't even get face time in the manga yet even he gets some random power boost from part one (suddenly he's a MS user when it was never mentioned before) simply because he's an Uchiha. No, I don't think there's any chance of him being Tobi since the story went through the trouble of explaining that he loved Konoha so much that somehow a raven with his eye that Naruto spat out is enough to get Edo Itachi to break free from Kabuto's control so he can protect Konoha. I swear, just saying this plot doesn't sound realistic to me. Sounds like the writers were high when they came up with this way for Itachi to gain control of himself. As for Obito, I'm not going to waste my breath for why it wouldn't be him,because even with all the evidence against it, people will go on clinging to the idea.

He casted Koto Amatsukami on him so he would be ignorant of even suspecting the true identity of tobi. If he isnt Shisui, it's possible he worked with Tobi. There is definitely a connection though.

 

[BelievesItsNotButter]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

As for Obito, I'm not going to waste my breath for why it wouldn't be him,because even with all the evidence against it, people will go on clinging to the idea.

I am not exactly pro obito theory but this sort of thing is exactly why the theory won't go away. There are lots of things you can argue and claim as to why tobi can be obito or shisui but very little is every brought up as an argument. People just respond like this saying they won't waste their breathe why its not possible. If you are really tired of seeing the theory, post a logical reason why it can't be him. There are countless theories on why its possible. Don't just dismiss the idea because you don't like the possibility. As I said, I am not exactly pro obito theory but I can't deny their is support for the claim more than any other theory i have seen

 

[ImLazyGetOverIt]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

Make a summary of your point and I'll read it

 

[Armilli]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

Shisui is really relevant to Tobi. There is a relation between these two, If not him being Tobi. He is 1 of the biggest mysteries. Then again.... Obito means ''Unknown'' and Tobi refers to himself as ''No one'' Obito and Shisui bear equal relevance to Tobi if you ask me.

 

[Ascendant]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

Shisui is really relevant to Tobi. There is a relation between these two, If not him being Tobi. He is 1 of the biggest mysteries. Then again.... Obito means ''Unknown'' and Tobi refers to himself as ''No one'' Obito and Shisui bear equal relevance to Tobi if you ask me.

Tobi is old Shisui was young when he got killed so how could it be him?

 

[Armilli]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

Tobi is old Shisui was young when he got killed so how could it be him?

We do not know the approximate age of Shisui Uchiha. But due to the fact Ao suspected him of manipulating the 4th mizukage, i'd say he's been alive since before that. This is the first and earliest time the supposed Uchiha Madara makes an appearance after the battle with Hashirama Senju, based on what we've seen so far. It is unknown if he stepped out of his ''shadow'' and into the light to reveal himself to anyone else other then Kisame. But as far as we know based on the latest chapters, Kisame is the first person he introduces himself to.

 

[Rexoniel]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

I am not exactly pro obito theory but this sort of thing is exactly why the theory won't go away. There are lots of things you can argue and claim as to why tobi can be obito or shisui but very little is every brought up as an argument. People just respond like this saying they won't waste their breathe why its not possible. If you are really tired of seeing the theory, post a logical reason why it can't be him. There are countless theories on why its possible. Don't just dismiss the idea because you don't like the possibility. As I said, I am not exactly pro obito theory but I can't deny their is support for the claim more than any other theory i have seen

There are also countless threads why it isn't possible so why should I post paragraphs of explanation when its already been said hundreds of times? Use the search button if you really want to know. I don't say it because I don't like the idea, I say it because it's illogical. Obito is just filler to explain Kakashi's sharingan but people want to turn it into something more. The idea should have been long dismissed ever since Tobi was shown possessing sharingan in both eyes. Obito should be sbout 25-30 like Kakashi yet what we've seen of Tobi's face, he looks to be about as old as Danzo, and no I'm not accepting boulders smashing his face is the cause of his wrinkles or he used some kind of techinque that aged him into a senior citizen.

 

[MAXpayne]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

It's not obito or shisui. probably sage's older son using some weird life extension jutsu.

 

[Armilli]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

There are also countless threads why it isn't possible so why should I post paragraphs of explanation when its already been said hundreds of times? Use the search button if you really want to know.

Shisui or Obito is Tobi. Prove me wrong right now. Why would you take other people threads defeat my theory? Trying to take peoples creditablity of supposedly ''defeating'' my claim of Shisui or Obito being Tobi? You cant compose your own reason on why this theory is wrong? You are very unoriginal and mentally disabled.

 

[veggetta13]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

I read it. It could all be applied to any other Uchiha but, Obito and Shisui.

They have been put apart from the list of possible suspects for just dying man, sorry, but they can`t be revived. Obito`s corpse, lost, Shisui`s corpse hidden and perverted by Danzou surely.

They`ve given to the manga their symbolic existence, let them go.


Nice run, but meaningless.

 

[Ascendant]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

We do not know the approximate age of Shisui Uchiha. But due to the fact Ao suspected him of manipulating the 4th mizukage, i'd say he's been alive since before that. This is the first and earliest time the supposed Uchiha Madara makes an appearance after the battle with Hashirama Senju, based on what we've seen so far. It is unknown if he stepped out of his ''shadow'' and into the light to reveal himself to anyone else other then Kisame. But as far as we know based on the latest chapters, Kisame is the first person he introduces himself to.

It doesnt matter shisu is dead so it cant be him

 

[Armilli]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

I read it. It could all be applied to any other Uchiha but, Obito and Shisui.

I dont't get it? Why would he be applied to any other Uchiha other than Obito and Shisui?

They have been put apart from the list of possible suspects for just dying man, sorry, but they can`t be revived. Obito`s corpse, lost, Shisui`s corpse hidden and perverted by Danzou surely.

Again, why are they not possible suspects anymore? They haven't been put apart at all really. You personally out of your own opinion put them apart from being possible suspects. Obito and Shisui are more then ''possible suspects'''. They are prime suspects. The most information we have out of all these ''possible suspects'' are Obito and Shisui. We know more information on them then any other ''possible suspect''. It's too late in the manga for Kishimoto to introduce to us a new character, were too far into the story for that. I also never said anything about them being revived. 1 of them is indeed dead and the other is Tobi. Kabuto could not find his corpse most likely because he IS Shisui or kept hold of his body just like he did with Uchiha Itachi. Why would Kabuto
revive Obito? I dont even have to explain this. It's self explanatory.

They`ve given to the manga their symbolic existence,

Yes they symbolize ''the nameless shinobi's'' and Tobi refers to himself as a ''No one''. So somehow, one of them has a deep connection with Tobi.

let them go

Nah, they're hanging in there.

Nice run, but meaningless.

That meant alot thanks.

It doesnt matter shisu is dead so it cant be him

You don't know this for sure since we don't see him actually die.

 

[Ascendant]

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

I dont't get it? Why would he be applied to any other Uchiha other than Obito and Shisui?



Again, why are they not possible suspects anymore? They haven't been put apart at all really. You personally out of your own opinion put them apart from being possible suspects. Obito and Shisui are more then ''possible suspects'''. They are prime suspects. The most information we have out of all these ''possible suspects'' are Obito and Shisui. We know more information on them then any other ''possible suspect''. It's too late in the manga for Kishimoto to introduce to us a new character, were too far into the story for that. I also never said anything about them being revived. 1 of them is indeed dead and the other is Tobi. Kabuto could not find his corpse most likely because he IS Shisui or kept hold of his body just like he did with Uchiha Itachi. Why would Kabuto
revive Obito? I dont even have to explain this. It's self explanatory.

Yes they symbolize ''the nameless shinobi's'' and Tobi refers to himself as a ''No one''. So somehow, one of them has a deep connection with Tobi.



Nah, they're hanging in there.



That meant alot thanks.



You don't know this for sure since we don't see him actually die.

How do we know that Tobi is a actual Uchiha?