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Who do you think Tobi is:

  • Jubbi

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Sage of Six Paths

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Elder son of Sage of Sixth Path

    Votes: 65 9.3%
  • Izuna uchiha

    Votes: 105 15.0%
  • Kagami uchiha

    Votes: 71 10.1%
  • Obito Uchiha

    Votes: 77 11.0%
  • Fugaku Uchiha

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Zetsu

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Madara's split personality (created before original body died.)

    Votes: 66 9.4%
  • A copycat whose rolemodel is Madara.

    Votes: 13 1.9%
  • Tobirama

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • An unknown Uchiha

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Real Madara in Zetsu body

    Votes: 28 4.0%
  • Some one from Madara's time ( can't decide though)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Danzou

    Votes: 8 1.1%
  • Setsuna Uchiha

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Shisui

    Votes: 14 2.0%
  • An Uzumaki

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • Madara's Son

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • A woman

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Obito's father

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Someone Other than these

    Votes: 24 3.4%
  • First Edo tensie

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • An alien ( Superman/ HeMan/whatnot)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • I am the best. I have no theory. ( Not anymore at least.)

    Votes: 22 3.1%

  • Total voters
    700
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Re: So what happened to Izuna?

If it is supposed to be like this, and yeah, I get what you mean, this still isn't a 100% fact anyway.

We know, that Izuna died, we also know, that Madara took his eyes, but we don't know the order. It could have been like this, that Madara took his eyes violently after he had to fight him and kill him.


And another point, who kinda destroys your " He had no eyes thingy " :

You stated by yourself, that they will be revived, shortly before their death, so tell me, why does Nagato look so different, was waay more powerful and was capable to handle everything different than before?
no, because izuna fought blind in war according to kishi's databook, secondly, in the manga it shows izuna's eyes being removed whilst he is alive by madara
 

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Re: So what happened to Izuna?

If it is supposed to be like this, and yeah, I get what you mean, this still isn't a 100% fact anyway.

We know, that Izuna died, we also know, that Madara took his eyes, but we don't know the order. It could have been like this, that Madara took his eyes violently after he had to fight him and kill him.


And another point, who kinda destroys your " He had no eyes thingy " :

You stated by yourself, that they will be revived, shortly before their death, so tell me, why does Nagato look so different, was way more powerful and was capable to handle everything different than before?
He sucked up Naruto's chakra then looked different. God sake I hate dumbasses.
 

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Re: So what happened to Izuna?

no, because izuna fought blind in war according to kishi's databook, secondly, in the manga it shows izuna's eyes being removed whilst he is alive by madara
Ok, I get what you mean.
But still no reason, not to search for his DNA and to revive him.
Remember, he found Madaras DNA, and was "updated" by Kabuto, so he was beyond his prime.
He could have done the same with Izuna.

And another point, all 6 Jinchuurikis, which are under control of, Tobi have Rinnegan and also Sharingan.

All your " He has no eyes garbage " makes no sense, Izuna was way to powerful, to let him "rest in peace".
 

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Re: So what happened to Izuna?

Ok, I get what you mean.
But still no reason, not to search for his DNA and to revive him.
Remember, he found Madaras DNA, and was "updated" by Kabuto, so he was beyond his prime.
He could have done the same with Izuna.

And another point, all 6 Jinchuurikis, which are under control of, Tobi have Rinnegan and also Sharingan.

All your " He has no eyes garbage " makes no sense, Izuna was way to powerful, to let him "rest in peace".
but why would he waste time looking for DNA, when he could spend dedicated time to somehow looking for the sage of six path's dna?
 

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Re: So what happened to Izuna?

but why would he waste time looking for DNA, when he could spend dedicated time to somehow looking for the sage of six path's dna?
You think after hundreds of years, there was still Dna of the Sage of the six path's and it was more plausible to look for his DNA than for Izuna's? Really?
 

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Tobi Conspiracy

OK, I see these threads about how Tobi is an Uchiha - has anyone thought he may be a senju? Nagato wasn't an Uchiha but had similar ideals... its possible that he may be a senju - what do you think
 

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Re: Tobi (Official Breakdown):All Tobi theories go here:-

No, Zetsu is older then Obito. Zetsu was created after he obtained Hashirama's cells. Zetsu is carrying out Uchiha Madara's plan of the Moon's Eye. He lived on after the death of Uchiha Madara. The real and main top dog Zetsu is who he refers himself as Tobi or ''No one''. Tobi is a split person. ''Tobi'' is the top dog Zetsu who lived on to carry out Uchiha Madara's ambitions. The ''No one'' is Obito, for his name means ''Unknown''. Tobi has a split personality, i'm pretty sure you know what i'm talking about, If you don't, i demand you to ask me. Zetsu and Obito merged together, joining forces. They rearranged the letters in his name to symbolize this. As ''Tobi'' means ''ten bijuus''.

Since Zetsu lived since the first hokage was alive, it is highly expected for Zetsu to know all the abilities of the sharingan for he is Uchiha Madara's creation. Zetsu became 1 with Obito. It should be self-explanatory on how he learned to do and know all these techniques in a short amount of time. Tobi used Shisui to manipulate the 4th mizukage. The same way he used itachi to collect the tailed beasts, stepping closer and closer to his goal.
If you really believe Tobi is a zetsu, that makes more sense than it being Obito but there really is no point to him using Obito's body. He's existed so long there is no point in taking over this random corpse of a kid unless you're implying Madara created him so weak, he isn't capable of killing his own fodder Uchiha's. Obito was a noob. He would of benefited far more taking over someone much more worthy and it is likely the person who's eye the sharingan in the right side of his face belongs to. You're completely dismissing how old Tobi looks from what we've seen of his face, while Kakashi looks so young, yet he and Obito are about the same age. Even if it were just a Zetsu face it wouldn't be so aged. And no he doesn't have a split personality like black and white Zetsu. He was just a very good actor so no one would suspect him being the head of Akatsuki. Get over it. Also don't make it sound like he just mastered all the Uchiha techniques so he can do what he does. Not once has he even been shown to use MS techniques such as amaterasu, susanoo, or tsukiyomi.
 
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why tobi isn't shisui

if you re read the chapter ( can't find it now i only remebered this when wacthing naruto vs sasuke in the valley of the end) they said they found shisuis corpse at the bottom of a river the uchiha clan had his body and most likely destroyed it to keep it from getting into enemy hands. this can't be a genjutsus as shisuis eyes were taken by itachi and danzo before his death.

why didn't they do this to madara you ask?
because they no longer liked madara they best they did for him was hide his body. infact there question if the uchiha even found his body after death and wasn't hidden by tobi.

so we have proof of a dead body they found it in the river.
 

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Tobi is really a woman?

Tobi could be Minato's genin teammate in team Jiraya. Apart from the voice, we have no proof that Tobi is a man. I think altering your voice, either temporarily or permanently musnt be a big deal. Younger Tobi did have long hair, and we do not know that Minato's teammate wasnt an uchiha. Even if tobi isnt madara, there is no reason to hide his/her face unless it immediately reveals it to be a female face.

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