while i am a tobito supporter that is definitely a good point. the only thing i could say is if tobi only controlled him at a later point. unless masked man a tobi are different (since masked man had kamui when fighting yamato).Zabuza graduated the academy at the age of 9 and slaughtered the rest of the graduates. Tobi was in charge of the 4th mizukage and brought in that time known as the bloody mist. Problem is, Zabuza is the same age as kakashi, so with that being said it is conceptually impossible according to the manga for Obito to of controlled the 4th Mizukage let alone of been tobi as that time.
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There has to of been two tobi's for the mizukage to of continued to be controlled. Not only was Obito not old enough, he didn't even have a sharingan. This is absolute proof that they're two tobi's and that the previous tobi might of switched into obito's body.while i am a tobito supporter that is definitely a good point. the only thing i could say is if tobi only controlled him at a later point. unless masked man a tobi are different (since masked man had kamui when fighting yamato).
Seems like your "nigga zabuza" missed out one of the graduates for his 'number of mist shinobi killed' collection. xdMy nigga zabuza!!!
This. It's quite obvious. Its either that or time traveling.Tobi might have been another person, back then?!![]()
possible, but how did (tobi 1 is pre naruto tobi) (obito will be this tobi) tobi 1 gets obito's eye? we clearly see tobi 1 use kamui on yamato. unless obito was fighting yamto at the point, and tobi 1 was controlling mizukage. though long haired tobi also appears during uchiha massacre. I don't think Madara would murder the uchia nor izuna. obito could have controlled the mizukage much later. the rules about graduating could have been the mizukage's and not that of obito. i guess all will be revealed soon enoughThere has to of been two tobi's for the mizukage to of continued to be controlled. Not only was Obito not old enough, he didn't even have a sharingan. This is absolute proof that they're two tobi's and that the previous tobi might of switched into obito's body.
Yeah I think there was two tobis alsoFalse because Kishi doesn't care about timelines.
Other than this^, my theory for two Tobi's is becoming complete.
The uchiha forsook Madara, that's why he attacked konoha. Not to mention he wanted Hashirama's DNA.possible, but how did (tobi 1 is pre naruto tobi) (obito will be this tobi) tobi 1 gets obito's eye? we clearly see tobi 1 use kamui on yamato. unless obito was fighting yamto at the point, and tobi 1 was controlling mizukage. though long haired tobi also appears during uchiha massacre. I don't think Madara would murder the uchia nor izuna. obito could have controlled the mizukage much later. the rules about graduating could have been the mizukage's and not that of obito. i guess all will be revealed soon enough
agreed! and his tongue licking... eeks!! :sy:But no ones as much pedo as Orochimaru :zonder:
Unless the whole kamui allows Tobo to go back in time sadlyAfter chapter 599, I am pretty sure that Tobi is not Obito!
First lets start with the beginning.
Uchiha Madara!
Was around 25 years old when Konoha was founded.
Around 10 years later he fought Hashirama and was "defeated", but got Hashirama's cells.
He was very injured after this fight, and the coming years he created Zetsu! And around the same time he got the rinnengan. And shortly after he got the rinnengan he died. Not much older than the fight between him and Hashirama. Here somewhere Tobi must already have been involved. He got the rinnengan. And approximately 40 years later. Nagato was born. Tobi gave the eyes to Nagato. To use them to revive Madara.
Now here is where the things get weird. If Madara died about 30 years before Nagato was even born. How in the world would he even know about Nagato. But Madara resturrected did know about him! but looked just as he did in his prime. and this is the only thing my theori cant fit in.
But here it goes.
Madara created White Zetsu and Black Zetsu. And a third! Tobi. beein half madara half zetsu. As we have seen some of white zetsu's ability, to take chakra and copy the enemy looking just like them (dont know if he can use their abilities but yes) What if the third creation Tobi had that ability just way better, with some of madara's conciseness. He first took Madara's body. thu's having the long hair we have seen in some chapters aswell Madara's memories therfore knowing everything about his past and so on. In the world war were Obito presumably died. What is Tobi used that same ability to change into Obito's body! He did and he really liked his Sharingan technique, but at the sametime he got some of obitos personality (aswell as obitos memories, he dreams and so on). just as he got from madara' the first time. Thus he used the Madara body, when meeting with Kisame, Itachi etc.. Making them believe he was the real Madara. Using tobi's body when he needed that and using his Sharingan.
Before this chapter I thought, well maybe it is Obito! But when I saw obito, I just got a feeling it is not Obito. Because it just does not make sense that. Madara gave Nagato the Rinnengan and still beeing this young. I think that had chakra within tobi so when he was revieved he knew what tobi had done "like kage bunshin" it came back to him. When he switched to Obito's body, Madara could not sense what he was doing no more. Tobi attacked yondaime, a couple of years after Obito died. And if it was Obito, how in the world could he had learned sooo much, in such a short time. Did Madara teach him? I doubt it
Did white and black zetsu find him and teach him. Possibly but very unlikely. Pluss Akatsuki, was already created before Obito died!
Tobi is Obito?
It seems as if everybody thinks that now! But I just have my doubts.
What do you guys think??
is Tobi really Obito?
false, kakashi is 2-3 years older than zabuzaZabuza graduated the academy at the age of 9 and slaughtered the rest of the graduates. Tobi was in charge of the 4th mizukage and brought in that time known as the bloody mist. Problem is, Zabuza is the same age as kakashi, so with that being said it is conceptually impossible according to the manga for Obito to of controlled the 4th Mizukage let alone of been tobi as that time.
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Oh this explained everything! So a 2 to 3 year old Obito controlled the Mizukage...false, kakashi is 2-3 years older than zabuza