Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

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Re: Tobi is not Obito (manga proof)

Zabuza graduated the academy at the age of 9 and slaughtered the rest of the graduates. Tobi was in charge of the 4th mizukage and brought in that time known as the bloody mist. Problem is, Zabuza is the same age as kakashi, so with that being said it is conceptually impossible according to the manga for Obito to of controlled the 4th Mizukage let alone of been tobi as that time.

while i am a tobito supporter that is definitely a good point. the only thing i could say is if tobi only controlled him at a later point. unless masked man a tobi are different (since masked man had kamui when fighting yamato).
 

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Re: Tobi is not Obito (manga proof)

while i am a tobito supporter that is definitely a good point. the only thing i could say is if tobi only controlled him at a later point. unless masked man a tobi are different (since masked man had kamui when fighting yamato).
There has to of been two tobi's for the mizukage to of continued to be controlled. Not only was Obito not old enough, he didn't even have a sharingan. This is absolute proof that they're two tobi's and that the previous tobi might of switched into obito's body.
 

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Re: Tobi is not Obito (manga proof)

There has to of been two tobi's for the mizukage to of continued to be controlled. Not only was Obito not old enough, he didn't even have a sharingan. This is absolute proof that they're two tobi's and that the previous tobi might of switched into obito's body.
possible, but how did (tobi 1 is pre naruto tobi) (obito will be this tobi) tobi 1 gets obito's eye? we clearly see tobi 1 use kamui on yamato. unless obito was fighting yamto at the point, and tobi 1 was controlling mizukage. though long haired tobi also appears during uchiha massacre. I don't think Madara would murder the uchia nor izuna. obito could have controlled the mizukage much later. the rules about graduating could have been the mizukage's and not that of obito. i guess all will be revealed soon enough
 

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Re: Tobi is not Obito (manga proof)

False because Kishi doesn't care about timelines.

Other than this^, my theory for two Tobi's is becoming complete.
Yeah I think there was two tobis also :)

question for you. Why you have " king of games " written under your nickname and Yusei in your Signature if Yugi Moto is King of Games ? And you know that no other character of Yugioh will compare to him ? :rolleyes:
 

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Re: Tobi is not Obito (manga proof)

possible, but how did (tobi 1 is pre naruto tobi) (obito will be this tobi) tobi 1 gets obito's eye? we clearly see tobi 1 use kamui on yamato. unless obito was fighting yamto at the point, and tobi 1 was controlling mizukage. though long haired tobi also appears during uchiha massacre. I don't think Madara would murder the uchia nor izuna. obito could have controlled the mizukage much later. the rules about graduating could have been the mizukage's and not that of obito. i guess all will be revealed soon enough
The uchiha forsook Madara, that's why he attacked konoha. Not to mention he wanted Hashirama's DNA.

Also the 4th Mizukage was being controlled, therefore it was tobi's rules. Zabuza is the same age as kakashi which is the same age as obito. Therefore Tobi is not Obito unless they're two.
 

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Tiny theory, maybe when Tobi said, "I an no one." he meant No one person? That would explain pretty much all Tobi activities. Like I said Tiny theory but quite possible :shrug:
I do believe current Tobi is Obito though :scorps:
 

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the person fighting Minato during the Kyubi attack was Tobi=Obito, he looked a little younger and more a bit more slender, ahhhhhh.....Tobi/Obito killed Rin on purpose to get the Mangekyu Sharingan....or he babysat her...took care of her until she died...or she died in the Hidden Leaf Village, or maybe so can Kakashi gain his Mangekyu before Tobi.....???...because they have always shown Kakashis Mangekyu but never Tobis??? hmmmm...???
 

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Re: Tobi is not Obito (manga proof)

there were two tobis rocket scientist, i cant believe people are still denieing obito=tobi AFTER ITS ALREADY BEEN REVEALED write your fan fictions elsewhere the only tobi theories that are appropriate after the reveal are theory's on how kishi will explain it. everything else is useless bickering.
 
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After chapter 599, I am pretty sure that Tobi is not Obito!

First lets start with the beginning.

Uchiha Madara!
Was around 25 years old when Konoha was founded.
Around 10 years later he fought Hashirama and was "defeated", but got Hashirama's cells.
He was very injured after this fight, and the coming years he created Zetsu! And around the same time he got the rinnengan. And shortly after he got the rinnengan he died. Not much older than the fight between him and Hashirama. Here somewhere Tobi must already have been involved. He got the rinnengan. And approximately 40 years later. Nagato was born. Tobi gave the eyes to Nagato. To use them to revive Madara.

Now here is where the things get weird. If Madara died about 30 years before Nagato was even born. How in the world would he even know about Nagato. But Madara resturrected did know about him! but looked just as he did in his prime. and this is the only thing my theori cant fit in.

But here it goes.

Madara created White Zetsu and Black Zetsu. And a third! Tobi. beein half madara half zetsu. As we have seen some of white zetsu's ability, to take chakra and copy the enemy looking just like them (dont know if he can use their abilities but yes) What if the third creation Tobi had that ability just way better, with some of madara's conciseness. He first took Madara's body. thu's having the long hair we have seen in some chapters aswell Madara's memories therfore knowing everything about his past and so on. In the world war were Obito presumably died. What is Tobi used that same ability to change into Obito's body! He did and he really liked his Sharingan technique, but at the sametime he got some of obitos personality (aswell as obitos memories, he dreams and so on). just as he got from madara' the first time. Thus he used the Madara body, when meeting with Kisame, Itachi etc.. Making them believe he was the real Madara. Using tobi's body when he needed that and using his Sharingan.

Before this chapter I thought, well maybe it is Obito! But when I saw obito, I just got a feeling it is not Obito. Because it just does not make sense that. Madara gave Nagato the Rinnengan and still beeing this young. I think that had chakra within tobi so when he was revieved he knew what tobi had done "like kage bunshin" it came back to him. When he switched to Obito's body, Madara could not sense what he was doing no more. Tobi attacked yondaime, a couple of years after Obito died. And if it was Obito, how in the world could he had learned sooo much, in such a short time. Did Madara teach him? I doubt it
Did white and black zetsu find him and teach him. Possibly but very unlikely. Pluss Akatsuki, was already created before Obito died!


Tobi is Obito?
It seems as if everybody thinks that now! But I just have my doubts.
What do you guys think??
is Tobi really Obito?
Unless the whole kamui allows Tobo to go back in time sadly
 

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Re: Tobi is not Obito (manga proof)

Zabuza graduated the academy at the age of 9 and slaughtered the rest of the graduates. Tobi was in charge of the 4th mizukage and brought in that time known as the bloody mist. Problem is, Zabuza is the same age as kakashi, so with that being said it is conceptually impossible according to the manga for Obito to of controlled the 4th Mizukage let alone of been tobi as that time.

false, kakashi is 2-3 years older than zabuza
 

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Re: Tobi is not Obito (manga proof)

false, kakashi is 2-3 years older than zabuza
Oh this explained everything! So a 2 to 3 year old Obito controlled the Mizukage...

Yeah, I'll go with Tobi being Izuna initially, and then transferring bodies with Obito when he was nearing his end and needed a new body.
 

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comical reason why tobito is indeed obito. Tobi-to t-obito

or Obito liked rin rin rejected him he faked his death, murdered rin then hit puberty giving him a growth spurt
 
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