Tobi is still NOT Obito!

Who is better as Tobi ?

  • Obito

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • Izuna

    Votes: 6 75.0%
  • Other character

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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After chapter 599, I am pretty sure that Tobi is not Obito!

First lets start with the beginning.

Uchiha Madara!
Was around 25 years old when Konoha was founded.
Around 10 years later he fought Hashirama and was "defeated", but got Hashirama's cells.
He was very injured after this fight, and the coming years he created Zetsu! And around the same time he got the rinnengan. And shortly after he got the rinnengan he died. Not much older than the fight between him and Hashirama. Here somewhere Tobi must already have been involved. He got the rinnengan. And approximately 40 years later. Nagato was born. Tobi gave the eyes to Nagato. To use them to revive Madara.

Now here is where the things get weird. If Madara died about 30 years before Nagato was even born. How in the world would he even know about Nagato. But Madara resturrected did know about him! but looked just as he did in his prime. and this is the only thing my theori cant fit in.

But here it goes.

Madara created White Zetsu and Black Zetsu. And a third! Tobi. beein half madara half zetsu. As we have seen some of white zetsu's ability, to take chakra and copy the enemy looking just like them (dont know if he can use their abilities but yes) What if the third creation Tobi had that ability just way better, with some of madara's conciseness. He first took Madara's body. thu's having the long hair we have seen in some chapters aswell Madara's memories therfore knowing everything about his past and so on. In the world war were Obito presumably died. What is Tobi used that same ability to change into Obito's body! He did and he really liked his Sharingan technique, but at the sametime he got some of obitos personality (aswell as obitos memories, he dreams and so on). just as he got from madara' the first time. Thus he used the Madara body, when meeting with Kisame, Itachi etc.. Making them believe he was the real Madara. Using tobi's body when he needed that and using his Sharingan.

Before this chapter I thought, well maybe it is Obito! But when I saw obito, I just got a feeling it is not Obito. Because it just does not make sense that. Madara gave Nagato the Rinnengan and still beeing this young. I think that had chakra within tobi so when he was revieved he knew what tobi had done "like kage bunshin" it came back to him. When he switched to Obito's body, Madara could not sense what he was doing no more. Tobi attacked yondaime, a couple of years after Obito died. And if it was Obito, how in the world could he had learned sooo much, in such a short time. Did Madara teach him? I doubt it
Did white and black zetsu find him and teach him. Possibly but very unlikely. Pluss Akatsuki, was already created before Obito died!


Tobi is Obito?
It seems as if everybody thinks that now! But I just have my doubts.
What do you guys think??
is Tobi really Obito?
 

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Re: why are you arguing that he is not obito

Why would zetsu "control him" if he ask's from tobi what do we do now? makes no sense xd use brains people... he's half man half mokuton (zetsu) that's for sure for now, and maybe has splitted personality like complete zetsu has (black'n white) and it maybe even more complicated than that.
 

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I think your going to get flamed so be prepared
 

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If he wasn't Obito, there's not a single reason to show flashbacks of him. There are indeed many questions unanswered, but we can only speculate for now and just hope that Kishi has thought this out well.
 

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Unfortunately, the manga, for now, shows Tobi is Obito. Manga>you
i'm with you bro+rep.

About your sig, your not allowed to ask for rep. It's one of the reasons why, along with the Grim rank, rep is becoming meaningless.
 

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I'm with you all anti Tobito fans unite it just doesn't add up
 

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There's a thread for this stuff now.

Kishimoto hinted at Obito being Tobi before Tobi vs Konan and the Minato and Kushina arc. Kishi would know how many inconsistencies and plot holes there are involved, and considering how important this reveal is, he will have to have 1 or 2 chapters explaining how this happened, he would have these ideas before he wrote those arcs as they aren't exactly small plot holes from a long time ago. Just wait, it looks like there is more than one masked man, but Kishi will explain it all.
 

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Re: Last chance to jump back on the bandwagon!

I too believe that Madara is controlling the body of Obito because in Japanese lore: the six paths is a rebirth cycle that allow a person to be reborn in a different path(world). Since Madara once had the Rinnengan, it would make since that Madara would posses/control another Uchiha. This is only theorized of course so don't hold me to my words.

One more thing: Itachi admits to Sasuke that he is a liar so don't believe everything he says.
 
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There's a thread for this stuff now.

Kishimoto hinted at Obito being Tobi before Tobi vs Konan and the Minato and Kushina arc. Kishi would know how many inconsistencies and plot holes there are involved, and considering how important this reveal is, he will have to have 1 or 2 chapters explaining how this happened, he would have these ideas before he wrote those arcs as they aren't exactly small plot holes from a long time ago. Just wait, it looks like there is more than one masked man, but Kishi will explain it all.

It Kishi trolled us with the appearance of who Obito really was as portraited in Kakashi Gaiden. And he actually had Tobi's personality all the way. I would make some sense to me!
 

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Re: Apologizing to all those who said that Tobi is Obito

You don't need to apologize :). Everyone had a theory, and one of em was correct. I wouldn't have apologized if it had been wrong.


Srsly? Their theories were full of dog sh!t. Just becouse they predicted 1 thing right doesnt make em right. Its like saying "Hitler dies becouse he got in a fight with the super saiyans". You only got 1 thing right, so in the end you are still adumbass

He mad. :D
 

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i still think that Obito isnt Tobi .. the time isnt fitting all well .. or maybe a 2 Tobi's .. but we will see
 

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It Kishi trolled us with the appearance of who Obito really was as portraited in Kakashi Gaiden. And he actually had Tobi's personality all the way. I would make some sense to me!

That is the whole point, that increases the impact of the revelation, it makes you question what could happen that would make him like this.
 

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Re: Last chance to jump back on the bandwagon!

I too believe that Madara is controlling the body of Obito because in Japanese lore: the six paths is a rebirth cycle that allow a person to be reborn in a different path(world). Since Madara once had the Rinnengan, it would make since that Madara would posses/control another Uchiha. This is only theorized of course so don't hold me to my words.

One more thing: Itachi admits to Sasuke that he is a liar so don't believe everything he says.

Itachi's only lies were the ones meant to protect Sasuke from the truth about the Uchiha betrayal. He didnt want his younger brother to lose respect for the clan. Everything concerning Madara, the MS and the EMS is not a lie. You should see that.
 

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Re: tobi could be fooloing every one!!

It's more likely that you (and the other body swappers) are just fooling themselves.
 

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Re: tobi could be fooloing every one!!

It's more likely that you (and the other body swappers) are just fooling themselves.


Sorry for double post, lag. :(
 

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Re: Apologizing to all those who said that Tobi is Obito

I m quite upset nd *confused*:confused:

I still thnj Tobi is nt Obito...
 
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