Tobi is NOT Madara's shell OR Madara's Clone or his BROTHER!

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Tobi could have being a rouge uchiha ninja,and tobi cannot be obito because if obito was still alive he would not have being this old...however we cant say tobi is not related to madara after all he is from the uchiha clan.
 

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This is a pretty stupid reason, you always make bold statments and act like there facts.
 

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They arent same but they just look similar
 

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Madara and his younger brother both had light skin. In the recent episode, you can see Tobi's face is DARK. In the manga, that part of the face wasnt even shaded. Hes most likely not Madara's clone and he is not his brother. End of story.

^^ agree ~

for those who aren't convinced that tobi is Obito , may i ..?

1: when Obito awakened the sharingan for the first time : he started with 2 tomoes level ; doesn't that shows he has a kind of special eyes ..?

2: Tobi controlled the kyuubi : which means he has MS : though we never saw it : but what we know that when he uses the t/s ninjutsu he doesn't use the 3 tomoes sharingan : witch means he uses MS at this moment : but why we haven't see it ??

that's the 3 : i think kishi will show off Obito's MS which is the same as Kakashi's it may be a kind of a suspense thing as we used to see from kishi !

4 : remember that since kakashi used MS he never suffered from the decrease of the eye sight --> that takes us back to the "1" obito's eyes were special

5 : how is he revived ??? (have we seen a Clear view of a dead Obito ..? NO what we saw was him under Rocks and his right side completely crushed ; in his fight with danzo's subordinates, he cut off his own arm showing off that white thing which made us wonder if zetsu didn't use a jutsu of his own to fuse with Obito's body !

those who don't agree will say : Obito isn't tobi because tobi gave Nagato rinnegan and Nagato older than Obito !
answer : it's plausible but let me remind you : Tobi is considered a big liar since we discovered he isn't madara so his words can't be trusted : and he may 's said that only to break konan's logic !

:sy: tbh : i just gave up trying to know who Tobi is ! Many possibilities regarding this issue and they are all valid !
 
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i think he is madara younger brother but that's just a guess and we dont know anything as of yet about him so tobi is tobi i just cant wait to see what they come up with for his i.d.
 

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I think he is Obito, they never retrieved his body after all and we don't know what his powers would have been like had he lived. Also Kakashi has a similar power to Tobi which would make sense if Tobi turned out to be Obito. Kakashi can send things to another place with a space/time technique using sharingan, Tobi can transport himself and whoever he is touching anywhere with the technique that looks similar to this.
 

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^^ agree ~

for those who aren't convinced that tobi is Obito , may i ..?

1: when Obito awakened the sharingan for the first time : he started with 2 tomoes level ; doesn't that shows he has a kind of special eyes ..?

2: Tobi controlled the kyuubi : which means he has MS : though we never saw it : but what we know that when he uses the t/s ninjutsu he doesn't use the 3 tomoes sharingan : witch means he uses MS at this moment : but why we haven't see it ??

that's the 3 : i think kishi will show off Obito's MS which is the same as Kakashi's it may be a kind of a suspense thing as we used to see from kishi !

4 : remember that since kakashi used MS he never suffered from the decrease of the eye sight --> that takes us back to the "1" obito's eyes were special

5 : how is he revived ??? (have we seen a Clear view of a dead Obito ..? NO what we saw was him under Rocks and his right side completely crushed ; in his fight with danzo's subordinates, he cut off his own arm showing off that white thing which made us wonder if zetsu didn't use a jutsu of his own to fuse with Obito's body !

those who don't agree will say : Obito isn't tobi because tobi gave Nagato rinnegan and Nagato > Obito !
answer : it's plausible but let me remind you : Tobi is considered a big liar since we discovered he isn't madara so his words can't be trusted : and he may 's said that only to break konan's logic !

:sy: tbh : i just gave up trying to know who Tobi is ! Many possibilities regarding this issue and they are all valid !
Tobi could be many people but him being Obito is the most stupid.
 

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Tobi could be many people but him being Obito is the most stupid.

Why is it stupid? Very plausible reasoning, he didn't just go outright OBITO IS TOBI, he gave actual facts so how about you give some facts as well as to why he CAN'T be tobi
 

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u give too much importance to appearence
 

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Why is it stupid? Very plausible reasoning, he didn't just go outright OBITO IS TOBI, he gave actual facts so how about you give some facts as well as to why he CAN'T be tobi

Those are not facts, there assumptions. Obito was the same age as Kakashi and from what we saw of tobi's face hes near the age of Danzou, which is 70. Kakashi is in his late 20's/ early 30's so give me facts to counter that and why would he be evil if he was willing to give his life to save his friend?
 

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Those are not facts, there assumptions. Obito was the same age as Kakashi and from what we saw of tobi's face hes near the age of Danzou, which is 70. Kakashi is in his late 20's/ early 30's so give me facts to counter that and why would he be evil if he was willing to give his life to save his friend?

WOW ! good logic ! jk : FAIL !!

Does Danzo have the T/s ninjutsu ?? NO

Is Danzo the leader of the Organization he wanted destroy along with Hanzo ?? Nonsense

Danzo Died while saying he wanted to be a hero like Hiruzen
Does Leading Akatsuki, declaring the 4th Ninja War against Konoha makes him a hero like Hiruzen as he dreamed to be ?? how reasonable

Sorry but with those questions Along with others shows you that Danzo is Tobi is a mere assumption that has NO facts but the wrinkles on tobi's face

as i Said these are POSSIBILITIES ! so don't come Saying there's NO FACTs !! We know these ARE POSSIBILITIES !
 

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WOW ! good logic ! jk : FAIL !!

Does Danzo have the T/s ninjutsu ?? NO

Is Danzo the leader of the Organization he wanted destroy along with Hanzo ?? Nonsense

Danzo Died while saying he wanted to be a hero like Hiruzen
Does Leading Akatsuki, declaring the 4th Ninja War against Konoha makes him a hero like Hiruzen as he dreamed to be ?? how reasonable

Sorry but with those questions Along with others shows you that Danzo is Tobi is a mere assumption that has NO facts but the wrinkles on tobi's face

as i Said these are POSSIBILITIES ! so don't come Saying there's NO FACTs !! We know these ARE POSSIBILITIES !
You called my logic a failure when you dont even understand it, I didnt say Tobi was Danzou, i was compaing their age. How can someone who looks 70 be a 30 year old man? Some real idiots here.
 

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Those are not facts, there assumptions. Obito was the same age as Kakashi and from what we saw of tobi's face hes near the age of Danzou, which is 70. Kakashi is in his late 20's/ early 30's so give me facts to counter that and why would he be evil if he was willing to give his life to save his friend?

Kakashi is 29-30... Obito was crushed by rocks and on the verge of death, of course he will be scarred, also can't count out that Zetsu could have saved his body somehow. As to why he turned evil, he doesn't think of it as evil he thinks of it as world peace and no more war. Remember he was part of the war and everyone thought he died.
Could be a similar story to Nagato, maybe they knew each other since after that incident. Lots of possibilities for these things, you never know until the chapters come out where we find out his identity if we ever do. For now its just fun coming up with these things :p
 

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Kakashi is 29-30... Obito was crushed by rocks and on the verge of death, of course he will be scarred, also can't count out that Zetsu could have saved his body somehow. As to why he turned evil, he doesn't think of it as evil he thinks of it as world peace and no more war. Remember he was part of the war and everyone thought he died.
Could be a similar story to Nagato, maybe they knew each other since after that incident. Lots of possibilities for these things, you never know until the chapters come out where we find out his identity if we ever do. For now its just fun coming up with these things :p

How do you explain himhaving all of Madara's memories, he must have lived while Madara was alive cause Madara knew him and Madara died relativly young so Tobi is over 60-70.
 

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Since when does he have all of Madara's memories and when did Madara die relatively young it was never showed how he died or when.
 

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You called my logic a failure when you dont even understand it, I didnt say Tobi was Danzou, i was compaing their age. How can someone who looks 70 be a 30 year old man? Some real idiots here.

LOL !! - said the guy who said that my theory is the most Stupid of all others without giving any Reasonable cause.

you could Compare Tobi to Hiruzen regarding the age but "unintentionally" you compared him to Danzo. ! and you didn't mean to give a "hint" that you believe that danzo is tobi !
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He was hit by Konans explosive tags, you know? Explosion = Fire, Fire = Smoke, Smoke + Tobi's skin = darker skin color?
 
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