This man deserves way more praise

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Yea, that's called being smart and using tactics to acheived your objective. Of course he waited to the villiage was weak he had a plan and saw it all the way thru.

Obito waited until kushina was giving birth to take the kyuubi, does that make him weak also because he waited to the perfect moment?

Itachi waited until the Uchiha was sleep to slaughter them. Should he had attacked in brod daylight while they were running drills?


my point is, yes he's very smart, yes he's very strategic, but he is NOT strong like you claim him to be.

even with precise planning, advantagesn and numbers on his side, he lost. thats just... disgraceful.
 

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- Body switching was not a pastime for Orochimaru. He didn't take Sasuke's body after Madara's defeat because he didn't want to. He wanted to save him and watch Sasuke's flame.
- Didn't take Sasuke's body from Kakashi because he knew Sasuke would come to him, which is what he wanted.

Itachi seems to be the motivation for this new Akatsuki and you just called him irrelevant to the current story.
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wish i could rep you.
 

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my point is, yes he's very smart, yes he's very strategic, but he is NOT strong like you claim him to be.

even with precise planning, advantagesn and numbers on his side, he lost. thats just... disgraceful.

Lost where lol? He's still alive

Itachi, Madara, obito and the rest of the Akatsuki are dead. So Who lost?

People who are much stronger than him couldn't kill him. Yet people who are much weaker than all ther other villains died by them. Sad. In fact that's actually pathetic.

Hidan lost to a weak ass shikamaru

Kakazu lost to a weak ass Naruto

Deidara lost to a 3 tomoe Sasuke

Sasori lost to Sakura lmao

Pain lost to a SM Naruto

Nagato lost to TNJ

Kisame lost to guy 3 times

Madara died by black zetsu

Itachi inadvertently died by his weaker brother

Obito a jj, lost to Sasuke and Naruto then was finished off by kaguya

Kaguya was sealed by a much weaker Naruto and Sasuke

Konan is the only one who went out like a boss


Absolutely f*ckin pathetic smh
 
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Lost where lol? He's still alive

Itachi, Madara, obito and the rest of the Akatsuki are dead. So Who lost?

People who are much stronger than him couldn't kill him. Yet people who are much weaker than all ther other villains died by them. Sad. In fact that's actually pathetic.

Madara died by black zetsu

Itachi inadvertently died by his weaker brother

Obito lost to Sasuke and Naruto then was finished off by kaguya

Kaguya was sealed by a much weaker Naruto and Sasuke

Absolutely pathetic

madras defeat was pathetic writing. you know it, i know it, kishi knows it.

itachi never had intention to win, so he's exempt from the discussion from the start.

obitos loss was valid, and naruto and sasuke together were very strong; its not that surprising he lost, and certainly not pathetic.

kaguya was brain dead a incapable of formulating real battle strategy. plus, naruto and sasuke together is, once again, a deadly combination, and it is understandable that she lost. don't forget kamui shurikens helped. and that pink thing.

now orochimaru on the other hand... fought a decrepit od man with every battle planned in the palm of his hand, with every imaginable advantage, edo tensei, and even trapped his one and only opponent... and failed to destroy the village. theres just no excuse. as someone of supposed legendary status, he should've easily won. itachi, minato, nagato, any akatsuki member or kage, would have been able to to destroy the village if they were in his situation and wanted to do so that day. but orochimaru couldn't even accomplish that.
 

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well if you didn't see things in black and white, you'd see that every villain represented different pains of the world, and that each time was completely different. everyone is the hero in their own story, except orochimaru, who clearly has some sort of severe psychopathic disorder, because he knows he's wrong, and likes it. meanwhile, all other villains weren't real villains, but were just people who had different ideas of what peace is or how to achieve it, and thats why they fought naruto about it.

in my opinion, deep character development, real emotions, understandable cause, and a real goal for a better world in their own eyes is a much better format for writing a villain, and it doesnt get old just because they aren't really evil. each one was completely different.

In my eyes, in my opinion a true good villain has no reason for being evil, the sob stories get boring. The standard "Good intentions but bad way of doing it" type of villains never appealed to me when I was younger and even now... That completely turned me off of having Itachi as my fave, it shat on my opinion of Pein, ****ed over my opinion of Madara... In my opinion, Orochimaru is the only villain to be a true villain in the whole series :coffee:

Villains are meant to be evil, villains were not meant to be basically tragic heroes... Villains do not need to have a horrible back story, they do not need a reason to be evil.
 

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What people dont realize is that if Orochimaru fails to take someones body it does not mean the person is stronger than him, it only means the person is too strong to take their body. Im sure Orochimaru with all his experience and forbidden jutsus could have killed Itachi if he wanted, but why would he hurt his potential future body?

By the way did Orochimaru EVER went all out? No, he even played with the 4 tail naruto while having his arms sealed. And Orochimaru has to be pretty strong if the whole Akatsuki (including Obito and Pain) are not able to hunt him down and kill him after all the years he left the organisation, but they are strong enough to destroy the whole Konoha village.
 
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i didnt realizethere were so many oro haters

he is undoubtedly the best character kishi has ever created.
 

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1. Orochimaru didn't take his chance at an Uchiha body seriously? Who are you kidding.

2. Because he is even stronger than myself. That is why I left that organization.

Sounds like he took his L pretty seriously to me. But then again, I'm literally reading the manga for you at this point.

Funny how Itachi was mentioned before him in Gaiden. :lol
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you should change your name from Truth to Retard.

cuz obviously you dont have the brain capacity to tell facts from your own delusions, you miserable little two faced Feltch.
 

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you should change your name from Truth to Retard.

cuz obviously you dont have the brain capacity to tell facts from your own delusions, you miserable little two faced Feltch.
Mkay, not in the mood for dissing, but you have fun. ^^
 

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you should change your name from Truth to Retard.

cuz obviously you dont have the brain capacity to tell facts from your own delusions, you miserable little two faced Feltch.
Why so mad though? Only DrDoom is rustled this badly by Truth. :lol
 

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We're sitting here going "This guy has taken so many lives and done so much evil and ruined so many lives and done so many inhumane experiments on lives. Give him a medal." You ****ed up son.

Exactly this. :lol
 

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Lost where lol? He's still alive

Itachi, Madara, obito and the rest of the Akatsuki are dead. So Who lost?

People who are much stronger than him couldn't kill him. Yet people who are much weaker than all ther other villains died by them. Sad. In fact that's actually pathetic.

Hidan lost to a weak ass shikamaru

Kakazu lost to a weak ass Naruto

Deidara lost to a 3 tomoe Sasuke

Sasori lost to Sakura lmao

Pain lost to a SM Naruto

Nagato lost to TNJ

Kisame lost to guy 3 times

Madara died by black zetsu

Itachi inadvertently died by his weaker brother

Obito a jj, lost to Sasuke and Naruto then was finished off by kaguya

Kaguya was sealed by a much weaker Naruto and Sasuke

Konan is the only one who went out like a boss


Absolutely f*ckin pathetic smh

So true. She went "yamamoto" on Obitio!
 

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The same man who made snakes look like chickens in front of the Uchiha.
 

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That man of course is Orochimaru. The same man who attacked the strongest villiage on a whim. The same man who murdered the 4th Kazekage. The same man who murdered the third Hokage. The same man who murdered the most powerful ninja in Suna. The same man who murdered the most powerful man in Konoha. The same man who murdered his own teacher. The same man who toyed around with a four tail kyuubi while sick. The same man who stalemated the 5th Hokage and Jaraiya while fighting them simultaneously. The same man who had the most powerful organization weary and cautious of. The same man who took his initiation exam into said organization lightly. The same man who had Kakashi shook (never has happened before). The only villian still alive

We need an Orochimaru Appreciation thread. My son is a beast

You called for it. Appreciation thread coming soon
 

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The same man that's a super duper fodder now.

Too soon to say that. He may be a threat in Gaiden.

Lost where lol? He's still alive

Itachi, Madara, obito and the rest of the Akatsuki are dead. So Who lost?

People who are much stronger than him couldn't kill him. Yet people who are much weaker than all ther other villains died by them. Sad. In fact that's actually pathetic.

Hidan lost to a weak ass shikamaru

Kakazu lost to a weak ass Naruto

Deidara lost to a 3 tomoe Sasuke

Sasori lost to Sakura lmao

Pain lost to a SM Naruto

Nagato lost to TNJ

Kisame lost to guy 3 times

Madara died by black zetsu

Itachi inadvertently died by his weaker brother

Obito a jj, lost to Sasuke and Naruto then was finished off by kaguya

Kaguya was sealed by a much weaker Naruto and Sasuke

Konan is the only one who went out like a boss


Absolutely f*ckin pathetic smh

Sasuke was better than Deidara.
 
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