This man deserves way more praise

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We're sitting here going "This guy has taken so many lives and done so much evil and ruined so many lives and done so many inhumane experiments on lives. Give him a medal." You ****ed up son.

Seriously wish i could rep u right now XD
 

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itachi certainly did not. orochimaru attempted an ambush, and itachi annihilated him.

Assuming itachi was 13 at that time, that was hardly a scuffle. Orochimaru doesn't take anything that serious. That little arm he lost was regenerated minutes later if that.

U see what happens when oro Rly plans an ambush? An entire villiage falls apart and a kage dies
 

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But there's an entire base dedicated to men who slaughtered their entire family name and men who wanted to enslave the entire human race.

Where's the orochimarubase?

so what? money see, monkey do? at least the family murderer did it in good will, and truthfully, the clan was ****ed up on so many levels... and madara was trying to accomplish everlasting peace. any good villain has more depth than "lol ima be bad, I'm so evil"

actually celebrating the character of orochimaru in any way other than his scientific interest is twisted because of what his character represents. theirs really nothing worth celebrating.
 
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Orochimaro is the classical Naruto villian , he has a sinister feel to him , he rapes children for sure , he has a long nasty tongue which goes in one ear and comes out the other , he is something like the Michel Jackson of NV.
He had a tough childhood and never really developed adequate relations with the people.
He was living in his own fantasy , which is to live forever and learn everything he could , and of course to have a sexy young body.


Oro has been molested , he is still a child inside.
 

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Assuming itachi was 13 at that time, that was hardly a scuffle. Orochimaru doesn't take anything that serious. That little arm he lost was regenerated minutes later if that.

U see what happens when oro Rly plans an ambush? An entire villiage falls apart and a kage dies

he was quite serious, seeing as how the uchiha body was his ultimate goal at the time, nd he has repeatedly shown that he will do anything to get his hands on one.

and if he attempted a "real" ambush on itachi in his final years, he'd be-- oh wait, he did and he got annihilated again.
 

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Assuming itachi was 13 at that time, that was hardly a scuffle. Orochimaru doesn't take anything that serious. That little arm he lost was regenerated minutes later if that.

U see what happens when oro Rly plans an ambush? An entire villiage falls apart and a kage dies

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Uchicha teenager #1 took his arm. Losing an arm to oro is like losing a kunai.

Uchiha teenager #2 killed him on his deathbed and admitted to his crew that was the only reason he was able to beat
Him

Powerless against spiral???? He bit him in one easy move and kept it moving. LIGHT WORK

He bodied Kages for fun and had an entire organization of kage strength Shinobi shook of him.

Come harder pause

Lol

Oro admitted inferiority to itachi, the moment he was caught in genjutsu so easily and lost his arm oro knew he stood no chance.

Death bed? oro could access his true form, what is there to say. Oro lost fair and square, if he was weak he would've tried to escape instead of fighting

He was powerless he needed karin to clear the way with her chains, you think he would have gotten close to spiral zetsu without her? Karin was the main reason why they were able to reach sasuke.

Rubbish, non of the akatsuki feared orochimaru.

Try harder
 

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Agree OP, would rep but Im on phone right now.

Dont forget he created his own dimension and trained some of the strongest Ninjas like Sasuke and Kabuto. And dont listen to the Itachi fans and remember he was severly handicapped during his fight with Sasuke and played with a 4tail Naruto. Soon he will comeback and fullfill his master plan.
He is without a doubt the strongest shinobi in NV without a Kekkei genkai or Bijuu.

Here's some stuff from a thread i made some time ago:

-Orochimaru killed the 4th Kazekage
-Obito,Akatsuki,Kakashi,Hiruzen feared him
-he expiremented all his life
-Hiruzen said Orochimaru is stronger than Jiraya
-Orochimaru never went all out and tried to kill someone
-He played with Hiruzen and killed him
-He had sealed arms and played with 4tail Naruto
-He had sealed arms and played with Tsunade and jiraya
-He failed taking Itachis body yes, but he could have killed him
-EMS sasuke said don't underestimate Orochimaru
-Orochimaru lost to Sasuke because he was sick,arms sealed and was not trying to kill Sasuke
-he got his arms back from the death god and can use jutsus now
-he mastered edo tensei
-with White Zetsu body he can maybe use DSM now
-he soloed spiral zetsu

I probably forgot a few things...but what i want to say...

If he has a healthy body with working arms and wants to kill someone he would be a extreme difficult opponent for everyone.
Considering this:
-hes immortal trough curse marks
-has the most jutsus and a lot forbidden ones who he can use with his arms
-has Edos
-fast
-maybe DSM
-etc.
 

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my gratitude, for such a truth filled post.

oh! just noticed, in that scan, the arm that was cut off is still there. ha!
 
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Nobody said Itachi was weaker than oro, but oro doesn't come at anyone seriously. The one time he did, the strongest village in the world fell apart. And he did that on a whim.

Oro plays around with everyone. He has access to Edo Hokage and he only chose to bring them back at a fraction of their power. Oro plus 4 full powered edo Hokage is Fodderizing most of nv

Now his name is still being mention in gaiden. Give that man his props I don't see anyone yall mention name being mentioned in Gaiden.
So much for a weakling Huh
 

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Nobody said Itachi was weaker than oro, but oro doesn't come at anyone seriously. The one time he did, the strongest village in the world fell apart. And he did that on a whim.

Oro plays around with everyone. He has access to Edo Hokage and he only chose to bring them back at a fraction of their power. Oro plus 4 full powered edo Hokage is Fodderizing most of nv

Now his name is still being mention in gaiden. Give that man his props I don't see anyone yall mention name being mentioned in Gaiden.
So much for a weakling Huh

ACTUALLY, it was stated several times that the leaf was critically weak at the time, and that it was actually at its lowest point in history. also, it wasn't orochimaru, it as orochimaru plus a bijuu threat plus the entire sound village plus the sand village, and they were still fended off, and he was serious then too.

orochimaru and the other sanin are outdated fodder.
 

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Nobody said Itachi was weaker than oro, but oro doesn't come at anyone seriously. The one time he did, the strongest village in the world fell apart. And he did that on a whim.

Oro plays around with everyone. He has access to Edo Hokage and he only chose to bring them back at a fraction of their power. Oro plus 4 full powered edo Hokage is Fodderizing most of nv

Now his name is still being mention in gaiden. Give that man his props I don't see anyone yall mention name being mentioned in Gaiden.
So much for a weakling Huh
1. Orochimaru didn't take his chance at an Uchiha body seriously? Who are you kidding.

2. Because he is even stronger than myself. That is why I left that organization.

Sounds like he took his L pretty seriously to me. But then again, I'm literally reading the manga for you at this point.

Funny how Itachi was mentioned before him in Gaiden. :lol
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so what? money see, monkey do? at least the family murderer did it in good will, and truthfully, the clan was ****ed up on so many levels... and madara was trying to accomplish everlasting peace. any good villain has more depth than "lol ima be bad, I'm so evil"

actually celebrating the character of orochimaru in any way other than his scientific interest is twisted because of what his character represents. theirs really nothing worth celebrating.

But the whole "I'm evil but have hidden goody goody agendas" card is so overused at this point... I like the fact that Orochimaru is evil for evils sake because of that reason
 

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1. Orochimaru didn't take his chance at an Uchiha body seriously? Who are you kidding.

2. Because he is even stronger than myself. That is why I left that organization.

Sounds like he took his L pretty seriously to me. But then again, I'm literally reading the manga for you at this point.

Funny how Itachi was mentioned before him in Gaiden. :lol
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No because he could've took sasukes body after madara stabbed him and left him to die. Or he could've took sasukes body when Kakashi had him when he sealed his CM. That wanting a body thing was a past time for him.

And by mention I mean he's still a viable threat not just his name was brought up. He's still potentially relevant to the current story at hand
 

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ACTUALLY, it was stated several times that the leaf was critically weak at the time, and that it was actually at its lowest point in history. also, it wasn't orochimaru, it as orochimaru plus a bijuu threat plus the entire sound village plus the sand village, and they were still fended off, and he was serious then too.

orochimaru and the other sanin are outdated fodder.


Yea, that's called being smart and using tactics to acheived your objective. Of course he waited to the villiage was weak he had a plan and saw it all the way thru.

Obito waited until kushina was giving birth to take the kyuubi, does that make him weak also because he waited to the perfect moment?

Itachi waited until the Uchiha was sleep to slaughter them. Should he had attacked in brod daylight while they were running drills?
 

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But the whole "I'm evil but have hidden goody goody agendas" card is so overused at this point... I like the fact that Orochimaru is evil for evils sake because of that reason

well if you didn't see things in black and white, you'd see that every villain represented different pains of the world, and that each time was completely different. everyone is the hero in their own story, except orochimaru, who clearly has some sort of severe psychopathic disorder, because he knows he's wrong, and likes it. meanwhile, all other villains weren't real villains, but were just people who had different ideas of what peace is or how to achieve it, and thats why they fought naruto about it.

in my opinion, deep character development, real emotions, understandable cause, and a real goal for a better world in their own eyes is a much better format for writing a villain, and it doesnt get old just because they aren't really evil. each one was completely different.
 

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No because he could've took sasukes body after madara stabbed him and left him to die. Or he could've took sasukes body when Kakashi had him when he sealed his CM. That wanting a body thing was a past time for him.

And by mention I mean he's still a viable threat not just his name was brought up. He's still potentially relevant to the current story at hand
- Body switching was not a pastime for Orochimaru. He didn't take Sasuke's body after Madara's defeat because he didn't want to. He wanted to save him and watch Sasuke's flame.
- Didn't take Sasuke's body from Kakashi because he knew Sasuke would come to him, which is what he wanted.

Itachi seems to be the motivation for this new Akatsuki and you just called him irrelevant to the current story.
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