This chapter had no logic

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Re: LOL Well its canon now. Logic is offically dead.

Isn't Madara using the recuperation technique used by Hashirama? I thought he was concidering Hashi's face on his chest that is now infused with the sage mode. If he's using the recuperation technique then it's not so hard to understand that Madara's original eye would be self-healed back into his eye socket.
 

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Re: LOL Well its canon now. Logic is offically dead.

Yeah WickeDanneh. The people who rush through the manga often miss these little details and automaticall call plothole. It happens a lot.
 

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Well, it seems Madara has Hashiramas regenerating abilities, it is the only explanation from all the damage, he has taken so far. So by placing the eye in his eye hole, he uses the regenerative abilities, and BOM he can use it....

And it wasn't Obitos rinnengan. You see it was a white Zetsu, that brought it. After all, Obito only had one of the rinnengans.

Although I agree, this sh*t is getting way out of bounds. I wish Kishi would give this war some better battle scenes towards the end of the entire manga, but seems he is just desperate now...
 

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Re: LOL Well its canon now. Logic is offically dead.

It seems you are confused, Confusion. Tobirama Senju clearly stated only an Uchiha brain can trigger the Mangekyo evolution. Kakashi DID NOT evolve the eye, Obito is. Remember Obito saw what happened and that Obito had a connection to his Mangekyo even from a distance since he saw through Kakashi's eye. Once Rin dies Obito's rage triggers both Sharingan to evolve. This process drains Kakashi so much that it knocks him out and makes him lose memory of the process while Obito still has the power to destroy all the Anbu. You need to pay attention to the plot or else you'll always be as confused as your namesake.
my name was meant for the attack confusion from pokemon...but thats another story lolol

My point was how did Obito activate Kakashi's MS when its not even connected to his brain at all...

Obito's left eye is connected to Kakashi's...

And while we're here, did the manga explain how Obito slip threw the rocks and how his entire right body got destroyed excepted his "two-tomoe" sharingan? Remained perfected intact~

That also left me "~confused~"...zing.
 

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Really? this bothers you? not the gigantic fox? not the guy who makes a wood dragon?

its called suspension of disbelief. We are told to believe that in this world, there are ninjutsu and magical beings, but we should still take things in the physical sense like our own world.
 

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shit chapter

> Gaara and Shuakaku group again
> Fail miserably
> Naruto leads beasts into battle
> Fail

>MAdara use susanoo without eyes
>fail

>Madara smashes smashed eye into eywhole
>fits perfectly and reattaches fine

>Sasuke not in chapter
>Minato not in chapter
 

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Re: This chapter had no logic...

idc what anyone says

1. this does not make sense

2. Madara breaks all the rules

stop trying to make this fit the logic the naruto series used to have.
 

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Re: shit chapter

it was more of a troll chapter... the only good part was seeing him plop his eye in
 

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Re: shit chapter

if your gonna ***** about it every week then just stop reading it
 

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Well I can say this. The reason why Sasuke and Minato were not in the chapter is the same reason that Ay, Tsunade, Hiruzen, Sakure etc. are not in it. The battlefield is too crowded. Kishi can only focus on a few at a time. The chapters like "a shinobi's dream" that wasted panel time zooming in on every character sucked so badly.
 

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Re: This chapter had no logic...

Madara is just a badly written character, logic doesn't apply.

Hell, the entire manga is a big stinking pile of shit right now thanks to that one character and his ludicrous powers.

well like what he says lol
 

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Re: LOL Well its canon now. Logic is offically dead.

Kishimoto never said there had to be a PHYSICAL connection. Obito was not physically there when Kakashi first stabbed Rin but still saw that through Kakashi's eye because the connection works that way. The manga was made to clearly show it was Obito who activated it and not Kakashi. Re-read the same chapter several times and you'll be less confused. Don't ignore Tobirama's explanation either. It's the strong Yin affinity from the Uchiha brain patterns that give the Sharingan their boosts. Non-Uchiha don't have that yin affinity, not even Kurenai or Orochimaru who were high level users.

As for the intact Sharingan, look at Obito's wounds. They are not perfectly symmetrical. A boulder can have indentations to crush you unevenly. Just happened to be a gap around the cranium which prevented Obito's eye and BRAIN from being crushed. Obito never replaces the other side of his head because it's INTACT. Also the Sharingan is different for everyone which is why some Uchiha have unique Jutsu and why Madara's only activated with one tomoe. We can just assume that Obito could use Kamui without thinking for brief moments even without the Mangekyo.
 

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Re: shit chapter

1.The eye wasn't crushed

2.Was gaara suppose to just stand there and do nothing ? lol
He just made friends with shikaku so the most natural thing to do is for two people or in this case man and bijuu to unite especially since there so compatible.

3.There his eyes.There has always been on real pair and that pair was madara's


The only thing that is shit here is your "logic"
 

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Kishimoto never said there had to be a PHYSICAL connection. Obito was not physically there when Kakashi first stabbed Rin but still saw that through Kakashi's eye because the connection works that way. The manga was made to clearly show it was Obito who activated it and not Kakashi. Re-read the same chapter several times and you'll be less confused. Don't ignore Tobirama's explanation either. It's the strong Yin affinity from the Uchiha brain patterns that give the Sharingan their boosts. Non-Uchiha don't have that yin affinity, not even Kurenai or Orochimaru who were high level users.

As for the intact Sharingan, look at Obito's wounds. They are not perfectly symmetrical. A boulder can have indentations to crush you unevenly. Just happened to be a gap around the cranium which prevented Obito's eye and BRAIN from being crushed. Obito never replaces the other side of his head because it's INTACT. Also the Sharingan is different for everyone which is why some Uchiha have unique Jutsu and why Madara's only activated with one tomoe. We can just assume that Obito could use Kamui without thinking for brief moments even without the Mangekyo.
Lol and Kishimoto never said Obito could mentally upgrade a eye not attached to him either.

-I'm not questioning who did it but rather why it wasn't explained. No kidding it was Obito lmao.

And the boulder scene is just an asspull no matter how you wanna see it.

"Just happened to be a gap around the cranium which prevented Obito's eye and BRAIN from being crushed."

~Really?~ Now that's a asspull. X-men's Wolverine would of came out looking worse.

"Obito never replaces the other side of his head because it's INTACT."

-I know...lol but why...that's the question. #Logic?

"Also the Sharingan is different for everyone which is why some Uchiha have unique Jutsu and why Madara's only activated with one tomoe."

-Sausage did too...so??? better yet I believe most uchihas do...

"We can just assume that Obito could use Kamui without thinking for brief moments even without the Mangekyo."



-You could but I know Kamui is MS exclusive...Unless you gonna assume Kakashi could use Kamui without thinking for brief moments even without the Mangekyo....give me a break.
 

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Can Sausage used Amaterasu without eyes too?

Could Itachi use Tsukuyomi without eyes?

Indeed all logic is gone when you bring up these arguments, but we're talking about your capability to think logically..

Tsukuyomi and amaterasu are doujutsu, they're actually casted from the eyeball.. susanoo (born from the nose) isn't a doujutsu it's just awakened next to the other MS abilities.

LIVING Madara tanked 7-8 crushing blows from bijuus and ate it like a champ.
He had susanoo activated and he has hashirama's healing abilities.

And the best part was when Zetsu gives Madara his right-eye Rinnegan and he just pops in there like some lego and bam...works like a charm.
did you see how fast tsunade's wound healed when she pulled out the susanoo sword?
did you see how fast madara's wounds healed last chapter?

Tsunade body getting split in half and not dying from blood loss in seconds/minutes all makes sense now.
Made sense already.. katsuyu.

Juubito losing to a Carebear-Katana all makes sense now...
there was no logic broken in juubito's defeat either.

-I'm not questioning who did it but rather why it wasn't explained. No kidding it was Obito lmao.

And here you have it.. the i want things spoon fed to me mentality that a lot of people suffer from here.
I'm not saying the things won't get explained, but are you conscious? able to recognise patterns and do you have any imagination what so ever?

Don't spit bullshit that logic is out of the way if there isn't a mangascan with a text balloon in it that says this is how it works.
 
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Don't spit bullshit that logic is out of the way if there isn't a mangascan with a text balloon in it that says this is how it works.
^ sense of humor is absence.

"He had susanoo activated and he has hashirama's healing abilities."

-You talking about a totally different page. wth?

"did you see how fast tsunade's wound healed when she pulled out the susanoo sword?"
"did you see how fast madara's wounds healed last chapter?"

-Do you see how she wasn't healing at all when a tree split her in half...nor did she bleed out from the open wound.(Which should taken seconds.) #1/4SenjuDNA?

"there was no logic broken in juubito's defeat either."

^Wow...

"able to recognise patterns and do you have any imagination what so ever?"

Why do I have to imagine how the MAIN antagonist did anything? lo ****ing l.
 

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Kishimoto didn't need to say it if he SHOWED it. The fact that Kishimoto went out of his way to show that Obito was still connected to the Sharingan despite being far away when Rin was first stabbed was him showing there is a bond there. The way he explained that it's the UCHIHA BRAIN that sends signals to the Sharingan to evolve makes it clear. You don't need him to spell it out for you since he assumes you can make connections.

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Obito the one being enraged while Kakashi is worn out, disoriented, and fainting. Obviously in no condition to evolve the Sharingan (which he CANNOT without the godly Yin affinity that comes from the Uchiha brain).
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This it the reason Kakashi didn't remember for all those years that he had access to Mangekyo all along. He was practically already knocked out during the process.

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"When an UCHIHA who has known such strong feelings comes to lose them...The anguish and despair that proceeds from experiencing such loss...causes THEIR brains to release a special kind of chakra (Yin) that affects their optic nerves..."

By simple deduction we can rule out some things and come to a conclusion on what CAN and what CANNOT work. Since Kakashi's Sharingan had a connection to Obito even from a long distance then Yin-Release affects even without a physical connection and can still trigger an evolution. What we can RULE OUT is that Kakashi evolved the Sharingan because it takes the UCHIHA brain to release that special chakra. Thus it is COMMON SENSE that Obito was the one to evolve it and Kishimoto does not need to spell it out for you.

Now for the boulder gap...It doesn't take much weight to crush a human skull but Obito's cranium is unharmed as well as portions of his lower body. Example is that both his legs are made of flesh. The boulder was not perfectly symmetrical like you mistake it to be. If his leg is unharmed and his skull was not crushed then it is obvious there were MULTIPLE uneven spots on the boulder. You actually see the boulder covers up most of his body, even the other side yet he is completely unharmed on one side which further proves the boulder had MULTIPLE indentations.
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Differences on Sharingan? Two Tomoe Obito.
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One tomoe Madara.
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And Madara claiming Obito "slipped through"
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So since your emotions are at a peak when you're about to die it might briefly activate an MS level ability. We don't know for sure but Kishimoto hinted at something through Madara's words. If that's the case, Kakashi could not do it because he does not have that level of mastery due to lower Yin-Release.

I don't know how much simpler to make things for you.
 

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Re: LOL Well its canon now. Logic is offically dead.

crybabies and haters< Manga

op- because you all assume things that were never confrimed.
 

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Lol I feel so bad for people who make threads like these. For one they try to use logic in a ****in fantasy world. A world that is fiction for a reason. Secondly it seems to be these guys who always get shitted on within the next 2 chapters because of their lack of intelligence to simply use a bit of critical thinking skills. But no they go out of their way to make a thread just to complain. What's even worse is that the OP is complaining about Madara Uchiha, someone whose powers have been unknown during this whole goddamn series. People think they know this manga like the back of their hands and when something happens that is out of the ordinary or beyond their mediocre brains they are quick to start complaining and whining. Please just stfu and wait a couple of weeks so you retards can be spoon fed the information you seemed to be oh so confused about
 
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